EPTOn June 10 2015 06:39 rafaliusz wrote:
11 years... that's more than my girlfriends age...
11 years... that's more than my girlfriends age...
11 years old girldfriend? 11 years is not girlfriend, she's a baby.
HasuObs leaves Mouz, switches to Heroes - Page 5
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
11 years old girldfriend? 11 years is not girlfriend, she's a baby. | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
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Tigi
Germany472 Posts
To the people that think HotS won't become an esport: You people clearly have no idea what you're talking about xD. I don't really mean i offensive tho because i see why it MIGHT look like this from a perspective from someone who doesn't really spent time with the game yet. Whether or not one likes it is obviously a personal thing, but from a esport perspective the arguments were really inapropiate: 1. The twitch numbers are doing awesome! People didn't consider that the game is only out for a single week and rarely a game has such high viewers after that. People might compare to HS in beta, however in HS blizz gave the streamers a much,really,very higher significant amount of giveaway stuff! Over the past month the constant viewership on twitch has doubled and will grow alot in the months to come when the first BIG events start happening (and Blizcon ofc). 2. That the game is not suited for viewers is really wrong and the opposite is actually true. The games last for a much better time for esport (20min ~), the actions kicks in MUCH faster, much more diversity due to different maps, much easier to follow the strategic choices of talents as opposed to items. 3. People who think this game is too easy, just didn't play it long enough/with enough thought. It is pretty easy to feel godlike in this game thats true especially since there are SO many really noobs :D, but thats not the case. Maybe some people think they already mastered the game and whenever they loss it is due to bad teammats, but in reality there is a lot to this game which those kind of people just don't consider. So its more of a mindset problem really. In HotS you can think so much more about comps, having to consider the map, than in other mobas. There is tons of diversity. Also what normal people dont realize when they play is how well the rotations can be timed on all of the different maps, but that ofc requires to learn the timings of the maps and the timings when you can rotate in the beginnning without missing a single creep on your lane, etc etc... | ||
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sharkie
Austria18508 Posts
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On June 11 2015 02:10 Tigi wrote: First of all huge thanks to HasuObs for his awesomeness. Easily my favorite esport competetor ever. His combination of kindness while still having the abilitie to troll along with his passion and intelligence remain umatched to me. To the people that think HotS won't become an esport: You people clearly have no idea what you're talking about xD. I don't really mean i offensive tho because i see why it MIGHT look like this from a perspective from someone who doesn't really spent time with the game yet. Whether or not one likes it is obviously a personal thing, but from a esport perspective the arguments were really inapropiate: 1. The twitch numbers are doing awesome! People didn't consider that the game is only out for a single week and rarely a game has such high viewers after that. People might compare to HS in beta, however in HS blizz gave the streamers a much,really,very higher significant amount of giveaway stuff! Over the past month the constant viewership on twitch has doubled and will grow alot in the months to come when the first BIG events start happening (and Blizcon ofc). 2. That the game is not suited for viewers is really wrong and the opposite is actually true. The games last for a much better time for esport (20min ~), the actions kicks in MUCH faster, much more diversity due to different maps, much easier to follow the strategic choices of talents as opposed to items. 3. People who think this game is too easy, just didn't play it long enough/with enough thought. It is pretty easy to feel godlike in this game thats true especially since there are SO many really noobs :D, but thats not the case. Maybe some people think they already mastered the game and whenever they loss it is due to bad teammats, but in reality there is a lot to this game which those kind of people just don't consider. So its more of a mindset problem really. In HotS you can think so much more about comps, having to consider the map, than in other mobas. There is tons of diversity. Also what normal people dont realize when they play is how well the rotations can be timed on all of the different maps, but that ofc requires to learn the timings of the maps and the timings when you can rotate in the beginnning without missing a single creep on your lane, etc etc... When people want to talk about Heroes failing viewership numbers, all you have to do is point at Heroes of the Dorm getting 100k views on cable: http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/04/28/was-espns-latest-run-in-with-esports-a-success-or-a-failure/ Add in the fact that parts of HotD overlapped with Game of Thrones and both the NBA and NHL playoffs (presumably traditional sports are the actual ESPN2 target audience) and the 0.1 rating isn't as bad as the articles would lead you to believe (though that does mean HotD was basically filler programming, but it's still something!). I wonder what numbers Dota2 got last year for ESPN3 (not that you could compare since ESPN3 is a streaming service and ESPN2 is cable). | ||
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Footler
United States560 Posts
On June 11 2015 02:15 sharkie wrote: I can't understand how people think HotS can't make it big when LoL did it... Because they played 5 games of HotS, noticed they couldn't last hit their way ahead of their opponent and decided it was an easy baby game. | ||
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xyzz
567 Posts
On June 11 2015 04:04 Footler wrote: Because they played 5 games of HotS, noticed they couldn't last hit their way ahead of their opponent and decided it was an easy baby game. Or it's because LoL and Dota are incredible games in their own right, and worldwide leaders of E-Sports. TI5 for Dota2 this summer will have over 15 million dollars in prize pool. The players in the winning team will all be multimillionaires. That's unprecedented in E-Sports (except already previously in Dota) if we consider tournament winnings. And of course the fact that Heroes is a dumbed down version of both games, intended for less competitive people. The fact anyone would want to try to make it in Heroes is simply because they expect the competition to be so weak that they can cash in on any early promo tournament money because noone knows what they are doing. | ||
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Footler
United States560 Posts
On June 11 2015 04:12 xyzz wrote: Or it's because LoL and Dota are incredible games in their own right, and worldwide leaders of E-Sports. TI5 for Dota2 this summer will have over 15 million dollars in prize pool. The players in the winning team will all be multimillionaires. That's unprecedented in E-Sports (except already previously in Dota). And of course the fact that Heroes is a dumbed down version of both games, intended for less competitive people. The fact anyone would want to try to make it in Heroes is simply because they expect the competition to be so weak that they can cash in on any early promo tournament money because noone knows what they are doing. Lol I didn't expect to get results so quickly. I was just trying to add some contrast to the ridiculous comments in this thread. I personally don't like LoL or Dota but I don't have anything against them either. But ya, HotS is totally a stupid baby game. Let's see how far this thread can go. | ||
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Tigi
Germany472 Posts
On June 11 2015 04:12 xyzz wrote: Or it's because LoL and Dota are incredible games in their own right, and worldwide leaders of E-Sports. TI5 for Dota2 this summer will have over 15 million dollars in prize pool. The players in the winning team will all be multimillionaires. That's unprecedented in E-Sports (except already previously in Dota) if we consider tournament winnings. And of course the fact that Heroes is a dumbed down version of both games, intended for less competitive people. The fact anyone would want to try to make it in Heroes is simply because they expect the competition to be so weak that they can cash in on any early promo tournament money because noone knows what they are doing. Haha your post makes me smile so much, because i realize how many fools there are with this ridicolus opinion that is miles away from the reality. What makes me so happy about it is that in at most one year, those ignorant retards will get so angry when they see their games beeing taken over by the "noob" game. Then they will keep raging at people who play & watch it, telling them how bad the games is and how they are all noobs, but eventually they will be told all the aspects of the game that makes is so much better and harder than LoL or DotA and they will realize how wrong they were  | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
And on HasuObs, never expected to see him and Mouz part ways. GL in the future Hasu! | ||
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joshie0808
Canada1024 Posts
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dlrlals1818
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Hi, I'm Starcraft 2 users in Korea I want to get help Writing to the General did not want it because the writing button What should I do? | ||
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Radicalness
United States271 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
Like why not choose Dota or League? They are both very well developed, have a lot more money in them.... I just literally don't see any reason, is it really only because they are Blizzard fanboys? From the little exposure I've had to the game, and as a fan of Dota (so I'm sure I'll have a bit of bias), I don't know of one thing that Heroes has, that Dota doesn't. | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On June 11 2015 17:44 FiWiFaKi wrote: I don't understand why pros keep switching to Heroes. Like why not choose Dota or League? They are both very well developed, have a lot more money in them.... I just literally don't see any reason, is it really only because they are Blizzard fanboys? From the little exposure I've had to the game, and as a fan of Dota (so I'm sure I'll have a bit of bias), I don't know of one thing that Heroes has, that Dota doesn't. HOTS is new, Dota and LoL already do have an established playerbase. The chances that newcomers from SC 2 will have success in the scene are probably somwhere around 0. And I remember HasuObs saying that Hots uses the same engine like Sc2. And that let's him believe, that some of his skill will transfer to Hots. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On June 11 2015 17:44 FiWiFaKi wrote: I don't understand why pros keep switching to Heroes. Like why not choose Dota or League? They are both very well developed, have a lot more money in them.... I just literally don't see any reason, is it really only because they are Blizzard fanboys? From the little exposure I've had to the game, and as a fan of Dota (so I'm sure I'll have a bit of bias), I don't know of one thing that Heroes has, that Dota doesn't. because the pros in those games are already good new game, everybody starts with a clean slate | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On June 11 2015 17:44 FiWiFaKi wrote: I don't understand why pros keep switching to Heroes. Like why not choose Dota or League? They are both very well developed, have a lot more money in them.... I just literally don't see any reason, is it really only because they are Blizzard fanboys? From the little exposure I've had to the game, and as a fan of Dota (so I'm sure I'll have a bit of bias), I don't know of one thing that Heroes has, that Dota doesn't. It has map objectives and several different maps. Also game duration is much more like SC2, generally 20 minutes or so. Plus more action and less farming due to the lack of gold system. Plus it's easier to get somewhere in the scene when you don't have to compete against other players with 10+ years more experience. Heroes is new so everyone is in the same playing field. | ||
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
On June 11 2015 22:17 StarVe wrote: because the pros in those games are already good new game, everybody starts with a clean slate I wonder whether we'll see the same thing happening as we saw with SC2: pros no longer relevant in the proscene of an older game migrating to a new game where their mechanical skill will keep them afloat for a couple of months, right until other people catch up and eventually push them into irrelevance again. It happened with quite a few of them back around 2010 and 2011. | ||
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Footler
United States560 Posts
On June 11 2015 22:32 maartendq wrote: I wonder whether we'll see the same thing happening as we saw with SC2: pros no longer relevant in the proscene of an older game migrating to a new game where their mechanical skill will keep them afloat for a couple of months, right until other people catch up and eventually push them into irrelevance again. It happened with quite a few of them back around 2010 and 2011. That's sort of the circle of life (progaming). At one point these players you are referring to were actually the cream of the crop. I didn't follow WC3 much but from my understanding Hasuobs was one of the best. He switched to SC2 and did quite well for himself but it wasn't going to last forever. Any healthy scene will always have a rotation of new blood challenging the top (which is why the foreign SC2 scene is looking so grim these days). Him going to HotS makes sense. It's just hilarious how ignorant this entire thread is on how different HotS is from Dota/League/Smite/etc. It's not better or worse, it's just different and fun in it's own way and has already shown that it has more depth than the naysayers might have you believe. But by all means keep being ignorant. | ||
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