MMAFlash Record 1-0 (45th) 6-9 (19th) Last 10 ---------w llwwlwllww TvT 1-0 (21st) 1-2 (32nd) Last 5 ----w --llw Echo LE 0-0 0-0 (TvT x0)
MyuNgSiKZest Record 6-9 (19th) 11-11 (7th) Last 10 wwllllwwwl lwlwwwlwll PvP 0-2 (61st) 6-6 (3rd) Last 5 ---ll wwwwl Deadwing LE 2-4 (12th) 5-1 (1st) (PvP x17) Best map (-2) Best map (+4) Most played map (6) Most played map (6)
LeenockLife Record 6-4 (18th) 10-8 (8th) Last 10 wwwllwlwwl llwlwwwllw ZvZ 0-1 (50th) 3-2 (12th) Last 5 ----l wwlwl Cactus Valley LE 0-0 0-0 (ZvZ x0)
BomberStats Record 3-1 (28th) 14-4 (4th) Last 10 ------lwww wwwwwwwwll TvP 1-0 (25th) 7-3 (3rd) Last 5 ----w wwwll Vaani Research St... 0-0 2-0 (1st) (TvP 3-5)
herODeParture Record 15-6 (2nd) 2-4 (43rd) Last 10 wwwwwlwlww ----lwlwll PvZ 3-2 (13th) 1-1 (31st) Last 5 wlwlw ---wl Coda LE 0-0 0-0 (PvZ 0-0)
sKyHighGuMiho Record 4-4 (25th) 1-0 (45th) Last 10 --wllwwlwl ---------w TvT 0-1 (55th) 0-0 Last 5 ----l ----- Vaani Research St... 1-1 (11th) 0-0 (TvT x2) Most played map (2)
HushPanic Record 3-3 (32nd) 3-1 (28th) Last 10 ----wwllwl ------lwww PvP 3-0 (12th) 1-1 (37th) Last 5 --www ---lw Deadwing LE 3-1 (4th) 1-0 (14th) (PvP x17) Best map (+2) Most played map (4)
ByuLLosira Record 14-7 (5th) 9-7 (12th) Last 10 wwwwlwwwwl lwwllwwlll ZvZ 5-2 (2nd) 4-2 (6th) Last 5 lwwww wwwll Cactus Valley LE 0-1 (5th) 0-0 (ZvZ x0)
MaruCreator Record 16-6 (1st) 5-8 (23rd) Last 10 wwwwwwlwww wwwllllllw TvP 9-1 (1st) 1-2 (32nd) Last 5 wwwww --wll Vaani Research St... 2-0 (1st) 0-0 (TvP 3-5)
sOsKeeN Record 10-11 (10th) 0-3 (68th) Last 10 wlwwwwwlll -------lll PvT 4-2 (9th) 0-1 (58th) Last 5 lwwwl ----l Cactus Valley LE 0-0 0-0 (PvT 1-1)
TrapBBoongBBoong Record 3-5 (33rd) 0-5 (70th) Last 10 --wlwwllll -----lllll PvZ 0-1 (55th) 0-2 (67th) Last 5 ----l ---ll Echo LE 0-0 0-0 (PvZ 1-0)
RogueJim Record 15-6 (2nd) 0-0 Last 10 wwwwwwwlwl ---------- ZvP 5-1 (5th) 0-0 Last 5 wlwww ----- Expedition Lost 4-1 (1st) 0-0 (ZvP 2-2) Best map (+3) Most played map (5)
soOSolar Record 9-4 (11th) 1-10 (55th) Last 10 wlllwwwwww lllllwllll ZvZ 5-0 (1st) 0-5 (69th) Last 5 wwwww lllll Expedition Lost 3-0 (2nd) 0-0 (ZvZ x10) Best map (+3) Most played map (3)
ClassicDear Record 8-2 (13th) 8-7 (15th) Last 10 wlwwwwlwww lwlwwwlllw PvP 4-1 (7th) 2-1 (16th) Last 5 wwwlw --wlw Deadwing LE 3-1 (4th) 2-1 (8th) (PvP x17) Best map (+2) Most played map (3) Most played map (4)
INnoVationBrAvO Record 8-5 (14th) 5-3 (21st) Last 10 wwwwlwllll --wwlwlwlw TvT 2-1 (16th) 4-1 (8th) Last 5 --wwl wwlww Coda LE 0-0 1-0 (1st) (TvT x2)
DreamReality Record 5-4 (22nd) 3-2 (30th) Last 10 -wwllwwllw -----wwllw TvT 1-3 (39th) 1-0 (21st) Last 5 -llwl ----w Echo LE 0-0 1-0 (1st) (TvT x0)
MMA vs Flash is an explosion of TvT skill o.O. KT vs SBENU looks solid all around.
herO reks DeParture, sKyHigh vs GuMiho could get amazing, Hush vs Panic is decently close, ByuL vs Losira meh.
Creator is Optimus.Rekt, B4 is unbelievably rekt, not so sure about sOs vs KeeN after how they performed this week, but Prime probably the deadest once again.
Dream got his easily worst MU so he better hope his team doesn't slump around this week. Which is going to be difficult considering the lineup. Specifically BrAvO vs Slumponation.
SBENU 1-3 KT (MMA curbstomps God right back to Slumptown) CJ 3-2 MVP (I just have that feel. This is not CJ's strongest team but they should still get to the ACE and that will be enough) Jin Air 3-0 The corpse known as PRIME SKT 3-1 KHAN (I see Dear getting up)
This may change once I think about the matchups a bit
On May 22 2015 17:19 sharkie wrote: TY wins -> KT drops him Bbyong loses -> CJ drops him
KT staff is really sad
They gave Stats a break last week, which is fair after he had carried the team for 2 rounds straight. The only one on KT who lost last week was Zest, but he's a way better choice on Deadwing where you're likely to see Myungsik than TY would be. No point in taking out Flash since he's 2-0 right now(and tbh since he's on Echo I have the feeling they wanted him to play Bomber, but that's just me) and that would give you another reason to say "KT staff is really sad". So do you take out Life? No, no reason to. So you're debating Stats or TY, really. Where choosing Stats isn't wrong.
I'm far more interested if Super will ever play this round. He used to be one of MVP's top performers.
Wow, almost my whole FPL plays. Only person who isn't playing is RagnaroK, but seeing as there are no players below him that play, besides Jim, I don't think I will change anything this week :o BrAvO > Inno Dear > Classic Stats > Bomber ByuL > Losira B4 > Trap (lol, I can Dream can't I ?)
Uhm... am I the only one who thinks that this went about as badly as it could for KT? I'd really favor SBENU with these matchups. In almost all of them :o (Although I got to admit, I'm probably underestimating Zest by quite a bit right now. I just don't like his play lately)
On May 22 2015 19:50 Swisslink wrote: Uhm... am I the only one who thinks that this went about as badly as it could for KT? I'd really favor SBENU with these matchups. In almost all of them :o (Although I got to admit, I'm probably underestimating Zest by quite a bit right now. I just don't like his play lately)
Flash's best MU against the weaker TvT player on SBENU, Zest's best MU (since he's not playing Creator), Life's historically best MU (meh, depends on Leenock), Stats is fine against anyone. It couldn't have gotten much better for KT, tbh.
On May 22 2015 19:50 Swisslink wrote: Uhm... am I the only one who thinks that this went about as badly as it could for KT? I'd really favor SBENU with these matchups. In almost all of them :o (Although I got to admit, I'm probably underestimating Zest by quite a bit right now. I just don't like his play lately)
Flash's best MU against the weaker TvT player on SBENU, Zest's best MU (since he's not playing Creator), Life's historically best MU (meh, depends on Leenock), Stats is fine against anyone. It couldn't have gotten much better for KT, tbh.
On May 22 2015 19:50 Swisslink wrote: Uhm... am I the only one who thinks that this went about as badly as it could for KT? I'd really favor SBENU with these matchups. In almost all of them :o (Although I got to admit, I'm probably underestimating Zest by quite a bit right now. I just don't like his play lately)
Flash's best MU against the weaker TvT player on SBENU, Zest's best MU (since he's not playing Creator), Life's historically best MU (meh, depends on Leenock), Stats is fine against anyone. It couldn't have gotten much better for KT, tbh.
Well. Flash's best Matchup vs MMA's best Matchup. And MMA's other Matchups are rather weak, imo. And he got a Terran. He definitely couldn't have hoped for a better opponent, imo. Life would have crushed any Terran and Protoss on SBENU - and got a Zerg, where he has been struggling quite a lot lately. Again: Probably the best SBENU could have got. Bomber's TvP has always been rather good, imo (although no one really knows how good he is in the matchup right now). And Zest... well... Zest lost to Creator.
On May 22 2015 19:50 Swisslink wrote: Uhm... am I the only one who thinks that this went about as badly as it could for KT? I'd really favor SBENU with these matchups. In almost all of them :o (Although I got to admit, I'm probably underestimating Zest by quite a bit right now. I just don't like his play lately)
Flash's best MU against the weaker TvT player on SBENU, Zest's best MU (since he's not playing Creator), Life's historically best MU (meh, depends on Leenock), Stats is fine against anyone. It couldn't have gotten much better for KT, tbh.
Well. Flash's best Matchup vs MMA's best Matchup. And MMA's other Matchups are rather weak, imo. And he got a Terran. He definitely couldn't have hoped for a better opponent, imo. Life would have crushed any Terran and Protoss on SBENU - and got a Zerg, where he has been struggling quite a lot lately. Again: Probably the best SBENU could have got. Bomber's TvP has always been rather good, imo (although no one really knows how good he is in the matchup right now). And Zest... well... Zest lost to Creator.
Flash couldn't have hoped for a better opponent from SBENU's ace lineup either, tbh. He has issues with TvZ, his TvP is decent but so is Myungsik's PvT now that SBENU has happened and Bomber's TvT is stronger than MMA's by far.
Life said in GSL today he doesn't like playing vs Terrans. He had trouble beating the likes of BrAvO and KeeN in Proleague. Sure, he'd probably crush the others, but this isn't worst case since Leenock hasn't shown us anything recently.
Stats' PvT has also been good recently, except against Maru and Dream (top 2 TvP).
And Zest "lost to Creator". That was the only PvP he lost since IEM Katowice. 2 months in which he beat better players than Myungsik. It was actually the first map against a non-Terran he lost since March, I'm not sure why you have such issues with his play.
On May 23 2015 00:40 jubil wrote: Gaaah, why are CJ benching Bbyong? He's a good player, I swear...
Well, Bbyong is pretty inconsistent, and it always good to give your bench warmers some exposure. Plus, Hush is PvP specialist while sKyHigh is a TvT monster.
On May 23 2015 00:21 Beelzebro wrote: Hmmm... Bomber vs Stats. How do people think this is gonna go down? How did bomber look in his game last week vs sOs? (I missed it unfortunately)
Standard Bomber game from Bomber; sOs incomprehensibly tried to go fast third into fast Storm with only 2 Colossi and nothing else against Bomber. He was Bombered at a typical Bomber timing
I hope Zest embarrasses the fuck out of Myungsik for being a super BM player on the Korean ladder. I've played this guy a few times and his attitude is not good, let me tell you that.
On May 23 2015 00:26 hansonslee wrote: Again with the Zest, Flash, Life, and Stats.............................................
I wonder if they'd get better results with BaBy instead of FlaSh sometimes.
Flash won both his games this round, it's not like TY could have done more.
Look better doing it
They kept sending him during that awful 1-6 record so I doubt we will ever see a KT lineup without Flash. like Ever!
Yeah, should have sent out Sleep. Or Action. Every week. I could see giving the coaching staff some shit for sending out slumping Flash if there was a better option, but seriously, KT's roster in round 1 suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
On May 23 2015 00:26 hansonslee wrote: Again with the Zest, Flash, Life, and Stats.............................................
I wonder if they'd get better results with BaBy instead of FlaSh sometimes.
Flash won both his games this round, it's not like TY could have done more.
Look better doing it
They kept sending him during that awful 1-6 record so I doubt we will ever see a KT lineup without Flash. like Ever!
Yeah, should have sent out Penguin. Or Action. Every week.
Action was actually very good in Proleague.
He wasn't the guy you want to send out every week, tho. Especially taking the spot of Flash, who didn't exactly get matched up against scrubs in round 1 (cept for B4). If he went 1-6 or something in round 2 I'd get the complaints, but he went 3-2 including wins against Dear and ByuL, so meh. Now, if one KT's top 4 slumps in Proleague, you have TY and Super to jump in. That's a lot better than Sleep and Action. So again - can't really complain about fielding Flash a lot (especially since 1-6 against Rogue, Dark, Losira, BrAvO, herO and Bomber isn't embarassing bad).
On May 23 2015 00:26 hansonslee wrote: Again with the Zest, Flash, Life, and Stats.............................................
I wonder if they'd get better results with BaBy instead of FlaSh sometimes.
Flash won both his games this round, it's not like TY could have done more.
Look better doing it
They kept sending him during that awful 1-6 record so I doubt we will ever see a KT lineup without Flash. like Ever!
Yeah, should have sent out Sleep. Or Action. Every week. I could see giving the coaching staff some shit for sending out slumping Flash if there was a better option, but seriously, KT's roster in round 1 suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
I didn't say they did wrong. Flash is the face of KT. I am just saying If I were to criticize the KT coaches that would be sending Zest in every freaking ace match.
On May 23 2015 00:26 hansonslee wrote: Again with the Zest, Flash, Life, and Stats.............................................
I wonder if they'd get better results with BaBy instead of FlaSh sometimes.
Flash won both his games this round, it's not like TY could have done more.
Look better doing it
They kept sending him during that awful 1-6 record so I doubt we will ever see a KT lineup without Flash. like Ever!
Yeah, should have sent out Sleep. Or Action. Every week. I could see giving the coaching staff some shit for sending out slumping Flash if there was a better option, but seriously, KT's roster in round 1 suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
I didn't say they did wrong. Flash is the face of KT. I am just saying If I were to criticize the KT coaches that would be sending Zest in every freaking ace match.
Honestly, I'm not sure why he isn't winning them. E.g. against Creator and herO, he should have been able to win once those days. Against Maru two weeks ago he botched his defense and attack once and lost for it. I know Zest never loses his confidence, so I'm not sure what's up with his shitty ace match performance. Wouldn't be a nerve issue.
On May 23 2015 02:40 mikumegurine wrote: when is iG.XYPrime going to get his turn...
I have this sneaking suspicion all Proleague coaches think Protoss is the strongest race.
On May 23 2015 00:26 hansonslee wrote: Again with the Zest, Flash, Life, and Stats.............................................
I wonder if they'd get better results with BaBy instead of FlaSh sometimes.
Flash won both his games this round, it's not like TY could have done more.
Look better doing it
They kept sending him during that awful 1-6 record so I doubt we will ever see a KT lineup without Flash. like Ever!
Yeah, should have sent out Sleep. Or Action. Every week. I could see giving the coaching staff some shit for sending out slumping Flash if there was a better option, but seriously, KT's roster in round 1 suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked.
I didn't say they did wrong. Flash is the face of KT. I am just saying If I were to criticize the KT coaches that would be sending Zest in every freaking ace match.
Honestly, I'm not sure why he isn't winning them. E.g. against Creator and herO, he should have been able to win once those days. Against Maru two weeks ago he botched his defense and attack once and lost for it. I know Zest never loses his confidence, so I'm not sure what's up with his shitty ace match performance. Wouldn't be a nerve issue.
On May 23 2015 02:40 mikumegurine wrote: when is iG.XYPrime going to get his turn...
I have this sneaking suspicion all Proleague coaches think Protoss is the strongest race.
I kind of agree. It might be a bit controversial with Zest's recent losses to Maru/Creator and in ace matches generally, but I feel he is still very strong (the best protoss outside of herO/PartinG)
It almost feels as if he has some sort of mental block in proleague aces matches (where he obviously doesn't in individual leages). Furthermore his play in the games he's lost against maru have been very strong, perhaps only losing in longer macro games or to subtle mistakes. If anything, I think his PvT has become much stronger than it was during his glorious 2014.
But most people don't really look at the content of the play, only the results. So I will just have to sit in a corner by myself on this one.
On May 23 2015 02:40 mikumegurine wrote: when is iG.XYPrime going to get his turn...
I imagine not frequently, for terran choices Prime just has better options. And I doubt he could replace B4/Creator or either of his iG.Prime counterparts.
Like if prime were in a position where they HAD to play XY or TANGTANG I'd hope they choose XY, but if you have Keen and Yoda XY just doesn't seem worth it.
EPT
2015 Proleague/Round 3/Round Robin![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/t21SI.png)
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/a/a1/SBENUlogo_std.png)
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/d/da/Rolsterlogo_std.png)
MMA < Echo LE > 
MyuNgSiK < Deadwing LE > 
Leenock < Cactus Valley LE > ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/tSDelDT.png)
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/d/dd/CJEntuslogo_std.png)
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/e/ec/MVPlogo_std.png)
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/3/31/Green_Wings_std.png)
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/8/84/Primelogo_std.png)
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/0/06/SKT1logo_std.png)
![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/a/aa/Samsung_galaxy_std.png)
going to be soooo brutal
