Greatest Players of All Time: Part 3 - Page 24

On April 27 2015 20:28 Jer99 wrote:


Jokes on you, TaeJa grabbed the top 3 spots

On April 27 2015 22:25 The_Darkness wrote:
It is impossible to satisfy everyone with lists like these. Nevertheless, I feel like there should have been two lists -- one pre-KESPA and one post-KESPA. Polt for example is about as good as he's ever been and I don't think you can say he's even the fifth best Terran at present, let alone fifth best player overall. Players like Polt, Taeja, and MC aren't even in the top tier of current players even though they're playing about as well as they ever have. That last point is important. We're able to see how these guys stack up against the current crop of sc2 Koreans and Polt, etc. are still top tier but they're only fringe top tier at best.

On April 27 2015 20:13 tokinho wrote:

At the end of 2012, early 2013 i don't know who I would consider better than Parting. he won the wcs grand finals. took several first there and seconds in gsl. He was one of the dominant players of proleague as well. (i know you kind of hate proleague from your original post on who you chose. which excluded several players like stephano, flash, losira, cj hero) the 3 biggest names i felt were startale bomber and parting and stephano got the short end of the stick. Jaedong to is scary as hell. (Jaedong, losira, hyun, and zest i feel could beat any player any day as well.)

I would like to see parting/bomber/stephano/sos/squirtle/zest/hero/hero/classic/jaedong/Naniwa in particular addressed in the post of the top 15.

On April 27 2015 23:03 thecrazymunchkin wrote:


As the vod bitch for this entire project, there were only 2 vods I couldn't find.
Polt vs ByuL G2 was one of them. It simply doesn't exist on youtube for some reason, and the twitch channels are dead.
Unless it's on some chinese site (which I did search...) it's likely gone forever :[

On April 27 2015 22:08 Zealos wrote:
Please MVP @#1

I love Life or what have you, but MVP will always be the hero the game needed

On April 27 2015 20:13 tokinho wrote:


In the final post, i would request why did you exclude the tosses, foreigners, Proleague monsters, and ex-startale bomber/parting?
1. Parting
2. Stephano
3. Bomber
4. Jaedong
5. the two heroes (CJHero,liquidHero)
6. zest
7. sos
8. squirtle
9. Classic
10. Naniwa
11. the Proleague stars- Losira, Bbyong, Flash,

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Why these all fell short in your mind?

On April 27 2015 22:50 Samx wrote:
Only a small point. The terms blink era and BL-infestors have been bandied quite a fair bit in the write up to try and justify certain positions for lending weight to why some wins are deemed more impressive than some. By the same account, parade push tvz era, gomtvt era and 1/1/1 tvp were not.

On April 27 2015 22:48 North2 wrote:
I haven't followed SC2 since WoL but I do like reading Top xx articles. Great read all around, but I gotta say your logic on Taeja is a little bullshit.

I think you're trying too hard tbh. I agree that there should be some attempt at valuing difficulty of matches and comparing them with actual prestige, but it really doesn't matter too much when it's about XX of ALL TIME of anything. I honestly don't know where your train of thought starts. I read your entire logic on why you put Taeja at #3 and read it 2 more times, yet everything you wrote makes no sense why he'd be in third place. If anything, I'd expect him to be in #7. This is just from reading your Foreword of this whole list and putting it side by side with what you said about Taeja. Like...what's the point of valuing Blizzcon over everything else if you're gonna put so much weight on the difficulty of opponents? I really don't get it.

At the very least, you're completely forgetting that this is the list of the greatest players of ALL TIME. MC found success in the highly volatile stages of the game back when I actually played SC2 and continued onwards as the game changed. The general vibe I get is that you're making a list of the greatest players currently, or the presumed equivalent of how they would fare if they played at their prime form. I think that's rather unfair since SC2 of now is not the whole history of SC2.

Michael Jordan is without a doubt the greatest basketball player of all time by most people's standards, but I kinda doubt he would be Top 1 if he played in his prime form today since the standards have been pushed up. Jack Nicklaus is at the very least Top 2 greatest golfers of all time (Tiger Woods being the other one) but I doubt he would even be top 10 now because the game has changed.