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TL Map Contest 5 - Finalists & Voting - Page 10

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Meavis
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Netherlands1300 Posts
February 24 2015 00:01 GMT
#181
On February 24 2015 08:49 Charoisaur wrote:
I really hope the next ladder mappool will look like that:
-expedition lost
-neo emerald plaza
-timberwolf
-coda
-vaani research station
-cactus valley
-inferno pools

Doesn't that sound awesome?


To me, no, not really
"Not you."
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 24 2015 00:02 GMT
#182
On February 24 2015 08:49 Charoisaur wrote:
I really hope the next ladder mappool will look like that:
-echo
-neo emerald plaza
-timberwolf
-coda
-ganymede
-cactus valley
-adun's shrine

Doesn't that sound awesome?

That sounds incredibly awesome and I really hope it happens.
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
February 24 2015 00:26 GMT
#183
On February 24 2015 09:02 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2015 08:49 Charoisaur wrote:
I really hope the next ladder mappool will look like that:
-echo
-neo emerald plaza
-timberwolf
-coda
-ganymede
-cactus valley
-adun's shrine

Doesn't that sound awesome?

That sounds incredibly awesome and I really hope it happens.


That would of course be even better but i doubt blizzard switches out all 7 maps from one season to another.
Let's stay realistic.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
February 24 2015 00:39 GMT
#184
On February 24 2015 07:30 ChopTheHassan wrote:
For me the choice was down to Ganymede and Neo Emerald Plaza. I was considering Coda as well but then I realized it was basically Daybreak turned 90 degrees. Anyone else notice that all except for one of the maps is 2 player? Were the 4 player maps simply not as good, or does the TeamLiquid selection committee have a bias for 2 player maps? I know the community has a bias for these 2 player maps, did that affect the decision making at all?

4p maps are almost always not as good simply by virtue of being 4p maps. Speaking in terms of rotational 4p maps:
In order to keep rush distances high enough while keeping 3rds close enough, 16 bases are necessary, which automatically relegates 4p maps to the role of "big macro map". To ensure positional balance, there must be a viable, symmetrical 3rd in either direction, which severely limits the choices of base placement. And at this point, you've used up all 16 bases, so unless you want to add 4 more (hint: this is a very bad idea) then this is pretty much your fixed base pattern for every map. A basic ring of expansions around the map with the possibility of maybe a little bit of creative stuff in the middle - which, although definitely possible, is harder to do when you have to mirror it 4 ways.

Things are a little better with reflectional 4p, 4p with disabled spawns, or 2 in 1 forced cross spawn 4p, but generally they're still a lot more restricted in layout design than 2p maps, and they still tend to have too many bases.

Note: I am extremely biased and I hate non-2p maps, take this with a grain of salt
vibeo gane,
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 24 2015 01:22 GMT
#185
On February 24 2015 09:01 Meavis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2015 08:49 Charoisaur wrote:
I really hope the next ladder mappool will look like that:
-expedition lost
-neo emerald plaza
-timberwolf
-coda
-vaani research station
-cactus valley
-inferno pools

Doesn't that sound awesome?


To me, no, not really


Pretty much what I thought.
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-24 04:13:14
February 24 2015 04:11 GMT
#186
I am stunned at some of these selections (in the bad way), and very happy about others. Really just scratching my head, but oh well, TLMC is a joyous occasion regardless.

It's obv between lez and uva, and I went with Neo Emerald Plaza because 1.) it looks fun, 2.) it has the potential for build order innovation, 3.) it offers some unique micro-intensive aggression dynamics that could lead to intense action. Uva's maps are close in these same categories though and I'd be fine with either.

Some of the others I'm just really cold on, but a couple have some flaws that if fixed would make them contenders. And then again the new economy setup in LotV could really change my opinion on these same maps, but, how can you vote on dynamics that aren't final of a game that isn't out yet?

In any case, glhf!
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OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 24 2015 06:36 GMT
#187
On February 24 2015 10:22 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2015 09:01 Meavis wrote:
On February 24 2015 08:49 Charoisaur wrote:
I really hope the next ladder mappool will look like that:
-expedition lost
-neo emerald plaza
-timberwolf
-coda
-vaani research station
-cactus valley
-inferno pools

Doesn't that sound awesome?


To me, no, not really


Pretty much what I thought.

Yup. And if we could avoid a new Yeonsu in Timberwolf it would be cool >.>
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Edpayasugo
Profile Joined April 2013
United Kingdom2217 Posts
February 24 2015 08:31 GMT
#188
Awesome, thanks to the map makers!
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g!mp
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany31 Posts
February 24 2015 09:05 GMT
#189
Good guy Uvantak... nice maps!

[x] GANYMEDE | Uvantak
stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
February 24 2015 09:15 GMT
#190
First off, if you're voting for a map because "it looks nice," please think twice. It's your vote, but that's like voting for a president because his party gave you free cookies. Think about it. Some of us actually have to ladder on these maps. /rant . Ok, now for some feedback.

1. Cactus Valley.
If you're a Protoss, why wouldn't you vote for this? The main and natural have no room behind minerals, which means less effective Muta harass and Terran drops (Thank you, Lord). Also, it's one of the few maps where taking a third looks feasible.

Ganymede looks promising.

Adun's Shrine looks very interesting, but something tells I'll like it much less when I actually try moving an army around. Should be interesting vs Swarm hosts at least!
"What we do in life, echoes in eternity" -maximus decimus meridius
eTcetRa
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia822 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-24 09:35:15
February 24 2015 09:33 GMT
#191
If Neo Emerald Plaza does not win I will lose all faith

Followed by one of Uvantaks maps, probs Ganymede preferably.
Retired Mapmaker™
emkro
Profile Joined October 2010
41 Posts
February 24 2015 12:52 GMT
#192
You know, I wish that the TL Map Contest 5 Open would have been held before the voting. That way people could actually have seen the maps in play. Right now, my guess is that 95% of the people voting hasn't even tried the maps.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
February 24 2015 13:14 GMT
#193
The hype is real. :D
But seriously, we need either Ganymede or Cactus Valley.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 24 2015 13:18 GMT
#194
On February 24 2015 18:33 eTcetRa wrote:
If Neo Emerald Plaza does not win I will lose all faith

Followed by one of Uvantaks maps, probs Ganymede preferably.

1. Cactus
2. Ganymede
3. Emerald

That's how it's gonna go.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 24 2015 13:21 GMT
#195
On February 24 2015 22:18 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2015 18:33 eTcetRa wrote:
If Neo Emerald Plaza does not win I will lose all faith

Followed by one of Uvantaks maps, probs Ganymede preferably.

1. Cactus
2. Ganymede
3. Emerald

That's how it's gonna go.

Echo>Cactus>Coda is my bet. People vote based on looks if there's not a vastly different map that can be voted for.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 24 2015 13:26 GMT
#196
On February 24 2015 22:18 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2015 18:33 eTcetRa wrote:
If Neo Emerald Plaza does not win I will lose all faith

Followed by one of Uvantaks maps, probs Ganymede preferably.

1. Cactus
2. Ganymede
3. Emerald

That's how it's gonna go.

More like Ganymede > Echo > Emerald Plaza, I think.
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TL+ Member
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 24 2015 13:28 GMT
#197
You guys forget that Cactus is the only 4p map and will get a lot of votes based on that.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
February 24 2015 13:30 GMT
#198
On February 24 2015 22:28 Big J wrote:
You guys forget that Cactus is the only 4p map and will get a lot of votes based on that.

I'd expect people to hate non-2p maps after the wonderful S3 map pool, but you may be right.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
February 24 2015 13:33 GMT
#199
On February 24 2015 22:28 Big J wrote:
You guys forget that Cactus is the only 4p map and will get a lot of votes based on that.

Oh yeah, I forgot about biome.
ModeratorI am still alive, somehow
TL+ Member
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-24 14:08:38
February 24 2015 14:05 GMT
#200
On February 24 2015 22:33 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2015 22:28 Big J wrote:
You guys forget that Cactus is the only 4p map and will get a lot of votes based on that.

Oh yeah, I forgot about biome.

They voted biome after they voted for that terrible lava map in the Red Bull Contest. They are still going to vote just for anything that is very different from the others.
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