EPTFirst time he wanted to be in the games and to put on 8-10 minutes delay , second time it was 5 minutes delay.
Every time i wrote him I don't have time to do it.
"Suspicious Korean sponsors" tweets by Olimoley - Page 10
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EmSc Tv
Poland209 Posts
First time he wanted to be in the games and to put on 8-10 minutes delay , second time it was 5 minutes delay. Every time i wrote him I don't have time to do it. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24238 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:21 Soularion wrote: This really ain't much yet. Don't panic, sc2 won't die. If starcraft lived through the Match Fixing Scandal in BW, it will live through this. I'm not panicking and I know sc2 will live through this even if it turns out to be even bigger than it seems to be now. I'm very sad and angry though. (when I say hope will recover : I mean I hope legit funders won't be turned away by all that shit) | ||
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
Korean police has to investigate this. I can understand that people are upset that it has been kept quiet for half a year but Blizzard cannot just release a statement and possibly destroy an investigation by the korean police. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:22 EmSc Tv wrote: I was approached 2 times by this guy. First he wanted to do a tournament with 1k $, second time 2 he he offered 2k$. First time he wanted to be in the games and to put on 8-10 minutes delay , second time it was 5 minutes delay. Every time i wrote him I don't have time to do it. Makes you wonder how much money is made in these bets. If there was a centralised gambling authority it would make things easier. Could easily set a limit for when bets have to be in. | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
it happens | ||
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:19 digmouse wrote: Let me put it this way: are you going to do anything if you are one of the guys that knew this? By standing up risking your career because you have to do massive investigations to gather evidence or your own reputation and connections are at stake? It always easy to say "why don't you do something?" while the cruel reality is everything is easier said than done. How does it risk your career? Most of these people claiming they knew about it barely have a career anyway. What are the potential connections being lost? The organisers of these dodgely funded tournaments. If these people truly have a "passion" for the community / the game / or esports as they claim, then they should have acted. All that needed to be done, to combat this, was do exactly as Olimoley has done now. Why has it taken so long for someone to do this? The knock on effects of just getting the word out there that this is potentially going on, will be enough to shut this down, most likely. | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
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xtorn
4060 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:25 Larkin wrote: Also plenty of sports organisations are funded through criminals, look at Napoli football club in Italy... Juventus were caught match fixing etc etc it happens Yes, whenever there will be a competition, there will be sharks circling the event trying to profit. But the outrageous thing would be to find out that some SC2 players are actually in on this. | ||
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PinheadXXXXXX
United States897 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:26 Jono7272 wrote: How does it risk your career? Most of these people claiming they knew about it barely have a career anyway. What are the potential connections being lost? The organisers of these dodgely funded tournaments. If these people truly have a "passion" for the community / the game / or esports as they claim, then they should have acted. All that needed to be done, to combat this, was do exactly as Olimoley has done now. Why has it taken so long for someone to do this? The knock on effects of just getting the word out there that this is potentially going on, will be enough to shut this down, most likely. When Olimoley first posted this the initial reaction was "it's really irresponsible of her to do that without putting solid evidence up front." If so many people hadn't tweeted stuff in response saying that what she was talking about definitely existed, her reputation would have taken a huge hit. | ||
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ClueClueClue
Sweden1203 Posts
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GGuMake
United States74 Posts
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digmouse
China6330 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:26 Jono7272 wrote: How does it risk your career? Most of these people claiming they knew about it barely have a career anyway. What are the potential connections being lost? The organisers of these dodgely funded tournaments. If these people truly have a "passion" for the community / the game / or esports as they claim, then they should have acted. All that needed to be done, to combat this, was do exactly as Olimoley has done now. Why has it taken so long for someone to do this? The knock on effects of just getting the word out there that this is potentially going on, will be enough to shut this down, most likely. Right there bro. Good logic. What connections lost? If she can not back her claims up with evidence or no one believes in her, it's a huge blow to her reputation and her league that is currently running, people take risk blowing bad things out in the open, it happens all the time, and it is a risk not everyone is willing to take, and it is why we pay utter respect to people who do like her. | ||
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Jono7272
United Kingdom6330 Posts
Ignore the rest then bro. It's personal opinion, not logic. | ||
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MrVideo
Ireland132 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:26 Jono7272 wrote: How does it risk your career? Most of these people claiming they knew about it barely have a career anyway. What are the potential connections being lost? The organisers of these dodgely funded tournaments. If these people truly have a "passion" for the community / the game / or esports as they claim, then they should have acted. All that needed to be done, to combat this, was do exactly as Olimoley has done now. Why has it taken so long for someone to do this? The knock on effects of just getting the word out there that this is potentially going on, will be enough to shut this down, most likely. That's a really good sentiment but saying that all anyone needed to do was just bring up that "hey there's a lot of illegal shit happening right now" to solve this problem is blatantly naive. This is organised and persistent, "raising awareness" gets ignored after a month or two; it's happened plenty of times in the past. Just from this thread, we can see that letting stuff of this magnitude get released only really serves to get people into a panic. If there's no conclusive evidence or obvious suspects, suddenly everyone starts pointing fingers at possibly innocent parties and trust starts to wane. The tournament organisers with integrity would turn these mysterious offers down even if it wasn't publicly known that they were even happening, and those with less integrity may still continue to do this if there isn't a huge crackdown at the end of this. Also, jumping the gun and saying more than you know about this whole thing as a player is risky because you are directly accountable for what you're saying. Considering how sensitive this community should be (and evidently is) over match-fixing and illegal betting, you'd become a pariah if you were wrong. Especially people like PengWin and Messioso who do work for Blizzard or companies in direct contact with Blizzard - it'd be a misrepresentation. | ||
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[BSP]Kain
119 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:31 ClueClueClue wrote: What's next? Blizzcon 2015 held in Qatar? This made my day. =] | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
At the end, there are some people who make money from idiots and some of that money goes to prizepools for SC2 players. Again, what's the big deal here? | ||
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OtherWorld
France17333 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:14 Makro wrote: Mvp is coming back to save us all from this chaos, don't worry You mean Invasion.Mvp will come back to save us. | ||
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TelecoM
United States10700 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On February 09 2015 05:44 opisska wrote: Why is this such a big deal? If the mechanism is really just delay-obs-bet, then this is vastly different from match-fixing. And honestly, the joke is on anyone who is willing to accept the bet in the first place when the game has already been played/is in progress. At the end, there are some people who make money from idiots and some of that money goes to prizepools for SC2 players. Again, what's the big deal here? the big deal is that this is fucking illegal. also if you're a real big corporation and you see starcraft 2 is being meddled with what are essentially korean gangsters, would you really want to throw your sponsorship behind the BIG events? This is not a cause for concern in the longevity or survivability of Starcraft 2 in the long term, but it IS important. | ||
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