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On January 22 2015 03:24 Musicus wrote: What is GEM even fucking doing? Like how exactly are they helping leenock in anyway for example. I always thought it was a useless stupid organisation. If MC has to fucking tweet to advertise himself to teams, GEM is not doing a great job. I have no idea how a real agency like WME could pick them up, they probably just have no idea about esports, but want to hop on the train. lol MC wants 3k $ / months, nobody wants him LOL
GEM can't obligate teams to pay him AHAHAH
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Wow, TLO sure does have some beef with GEM
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Hopefully this doesn't go down the way many large ventures in esports have (failure) but is a step towards its growth
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I must admit, I am amused by the idea of some IMG gala event and Artosis striking up a conversation with Steve Harvey.
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Theories about the legitimacy of GEM aside, its still pretty cool that a company like IMG wanted to acquire an esports talent agency.
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Why would a big agency like WME-IMG acquire GEM if they really do nothing ? They must have some guarantees no ?
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I dunno why people are being salty about this, this should be exciting news for all. They see $$ coming in and out and decided to make a move. Saying GEM doesn't do shit, sounds a little immature.
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On January 22 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote: Why would a big agency like WME-IMG acquire GEM if they really do nothing ? They must have some guarantees no ? What I don't get is why this is hard to understand... A talent agency is acquiring a talent agency to expand their influence and support a broader range of clients.
Would you rather they pick up TL and then change TL to become a talent agency instead of a team? It's pretty common sense that GEM would be the organization that they pick up while trying to invest in eSports.
There is no reason to talk about how good of a job people do or how shady an organization does, because nobody here knows the legitimacy nor the inner workings of private companies. You don't know, I don't know, so let's just go off of what we know here...
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I think people are also missing the other people involved with GEM - Scarlett, Wolf, Chobra, Montechristo, Richard Lewis (at least from the cached page - the actual gem.gg website now goes directly to WME).
I think, vaguely, that at one point Artosis and Tasteless were affiliated with them. Oh yes, they were until last September. Then there's Min-sik. It's possible that WME-IMG sees this as an opportunity to broaden their possibilities abroad, specifically in Asia. If nothing else, this should be good for people that are with GEM, as they gain a much more experienced and bigger company that might be able to offer them more opportunities than GEM was able to do so because of the very network heavy entertainment industry. (Or so it might seem.)
What I find more interesting is that someone like Variety is covering this as well. Which ties into maybe The Entertainment Gods finally noticing that hey, people watch a lot of people play games. It's a market where there's some crossover (things like Nathan Fillion streaming gameplay with developers) already but there could be a lot more opportunities in both directions.
Does GEM deserve to be the ones getting snapped up? I don't know. But I think it should be good for all of GEM's clients.
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On January 22 2015 02:58 Waxangel wrote: THE SAPINDA DREAM F1 was just the first step! + Show Spoiler + (check mirrors) Edit: Oh, they sold it to a legit company. Weird
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GEM does nothing? Maybe you should ask their clients. The ran a teamhouse till blizzard send all koreans back to korea with MC, Hyun, First, Yoda and 5th slot for someone visting them. Bomber for example stayed there for 10 days during HSC IX and the upcoming Dr(e)amhack. GEM is a Agency, they bring contracts to the players and the players to the contractors. Even Tastetosis is managed by em. They must do alot or so many people wouldnt stay under their contracts and get managed by them.
TLO maybe mad that he never got contracted by GEM and then GEM brought these Koreans to Europe who won bunch of WCS Money and Europeen Qualifiers for IEM and co.
Oh and yeah, they had/have a non SC II teamhouse in Miami
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On January 22 2015 08:26 Clonester wrote: They must do alot or so many people wouldnt stay under their contracts and get managed by them. Maybe their services cost so little that it's worth it or simply retaining their management in name doesn't cost anything. Or they're better than nothing. MC's recent tweets about searching for a team do not seem like the best way to go about finding a team. Whether those tweets were made under GEM's advisement or despite it, it's their responsibility. Personally I haven't observed GEM opening new doors for their clients. Maybe they have. But it seems like they accomplished nothing more than what any veteran of the scene with a mind for filling that role could do (with some funding). Hopes were higher than that.
I think the hope now is that GEM is nothing more than a client list and a few consultants on the workings of the sports scene while actual agents and managers can get some work done that'll elevate the community.
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On January 22 2015 07:13 Shinta) wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 05:35 Boucot wrote: Why would a big agency like WME-IMG acquire GEM if they really do nothing ? They must have some guarantees no ? What I don't get is why this is hard to understand... A talent agency is acquiring a talent agency to expand their influence and support a broader range of clients. Would you rather they pick up TL and then change TL to become a talent agency instead of a team? It's pretty common sense that GEM would be the organization that they pick up while trying to invest in eSports. There is no reason to talk about how good of a job people do or how shady an organization does, because nobody here knows the legitimacy nor the inner workings of private companies. You don't know, I don't know, so let's just go off of what we know here...
Definitely, presumably IMG wanted into the scene and who else is there to buy?
Now, I'm very curious what this is going to do for starcraft teams now that an actual large, powerful company is representing players. Something tells me Quantic wouldn't have gotten away with stealing Hyun's money if he was represented by IMG.
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On January 22 2015 08:26 Clonester wrote:TLO maybe mad that he never got contracted by GEM and then GEM brought these Koreans to Europe who won bunch of WCS Money and Europeen Qualifiers for IEM and co. You're being rather silly. Due to GEM's believed connections with ESGN, everyone who appeared on an ESGN program, Dario included, has every right to be skeptical of GEM, since ESGN went bankrupt without paying any of their competitors.
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Just seems a little weird overall, I just feel money wrongly spent everywheer in this.
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Man the GEM guy just made serious bank. Gratz to him but E-sports gonna look terrible once they realize its black hole for money. Wonder if MC will go back to GEM..
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On January 22 2015 03:44 Liquid`TLO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2015 03:43 forsakeNXE wrote: Seems like a.... suprise I guess. For real though Dario, aren't they doing anything for the esports scene? I gotta say that i never heard of them before really, but they can't do nothing and get bought by this huge company... right? ... rriiiieght? anyone? hello? welcome to esport. http://www.abuzu.com/
Ahahaa what is this man
Otherwise, we'll have to wait and see how this will pan out
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Good to see Tobias and Min-Sik still getting to do what they love the most.
wow, didn't know people were so strongly opposed to do this
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