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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
So, I think Mvp's title of, perhaps, "the finest SC2 player so far" or maybe "the most successful SC2 player so far", whichever of the two titles you find most appropriate is justifiably debatable, is safe. And before you argue that Taeja has twice as many titles as Mvp, are they the same caliber? He's won MLGs, Dreamhacks, HSCs, and whatnot. Again, with all due the respect to Taeja and the organizers of those tournaments, they aren't on the same level as the GSL. They just aren't. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8255 Posts
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ZergX
France436 Posts
Viva Mvp! | ||
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halfaspider
United States31 Posts
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ukiya2004
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Forthandback
United States2 Posts
What a weird picture with Zest. | ||
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
On December 13 2014 07:52 ukiya2004 wrote: where is sOs and Rain. and MC's era is long gone. I'd ne suprised if he ends up winning anything next year I gotta agree with that, and add INnoVation as well. I like MC and he's certainly no scrub (he looked pretty good against herO at Blizzcon), but his HotS record in offline matches against Koreans is a terrible 39%. Meanwhile INno, sOs and Rain are sitting right at 66% (they're all within about 1% of each other), which is pretty amazing. Edit: Also, putting aside who is the most successful player, I feel like sOs is the true spiritual successor to Mvp. Who else but sOs could live up to the legacy of a man who stayed ahead of the curve by mixing top-level macro play with frequent aggressive cheeses and all-ins? | ||
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Yorkie
United States12612 Posts
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Dapper_Cad
United Kingdom964 Posts
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
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tomastaz
United States976 Posts
can't argue with that logic edit: also does anyone seriously know what's up with Mvp lately? Not even playing qualifiers? | ||
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Trizztein
Canada45 Posts
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Yakikorosu
1203 Posts
On December 13 2014 10:56 Trizztein wrote: Great stuff. 2015 hype all the way. I love these articles that give us a view on SC history/competitive scene as a whole, with the changes in dynamics brought by the way Blizzard approaches the game. These team houses are such war machines, it's quite amazing. And how just a few players still managed to gain overall better successes than others. Shouldn't MMa have been mentioned at least once, though? Isn't he the only one to have made 2 blizzcon finals? No one has made it to 2 Blizzcon finals. Blizzcon finals have been: 2010: Genius vs Loner 2011: Mvp vs NesTea 2012: PartinG vs Creator 2013: sOs vs Jaedong 2014: Life vs MMA MMA won a GSL finals in 2011 that was PLAYED on location AT Blizzcon, but it was not the Blizzcon finals. | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
On December 13 2014 10:56 Trizztein wrote: Great stuff. 2015 hype all the way. I love these articles that give us a view on SC history/competitive scene as a whole, with the changes in dynamics brought by the way Blizzard approaches the game. These team houses are such war machines, it's quite amazing. And how just a few players still managed to gain overall better successes than others. Shouldn't MMa have been mentioned at least once, though? Isn't he the only one to have made 2 blizzcon finals? I agree, he needs a little more love when talking about all-time greats of SC2. He's been the ace for roughly 2 gstls, back when they were 3-4 day events, and 2 acer teamstory cups, which as far as I can tell is not reflected on the aligulac earnings, where he's currently 3rd. I'll admit he looks unimpressive in defeat sometimes, but he often looks very dominant in victory. He should be a strong candidate for terran of the year. 2011 Blizzcon was Mvp over NesTea, including a very infamous Shakuras Plateau game that got ghosts perma-nerfed. GSL finals was held at Blizzcon for GSL October, where MMA was the first person to beat Mvp in a GSL finals. P.S. That ghost nerf still bugs the crap out of me; why they didn't just nerf snipe vs massive is anyone's guess. It even makes sense lorewise, a freaking ultralisk should be more impervious to snipe than a zergling. P.P.S. This is still a very engaging article and fun read. I skim a lot these days, but this one I read. | ||
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ThetrueSmug
Australia14 Posts
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tadL
Croatia679 Posts
Beyond that are the relative importance of patches to both games. Like I mentioned before, Brood War was remarkable (by today's standards) for the off-hands approach of its developer. And there I stopped! Wont call out Blizzard right? You call Blizzard not giving a fuck remarkable...that's not a approach that's what all tripple AAA fuckers do and so many others too... They sell it and look that it runs kind of? And than don't give a fuck! Other company's get blamed for such behaviour and its deserved but here its remarkable. That is bullshit on Bush Jr level...omg And than you don't even go to the conclusion. Blizzard is not able to even balance one of their games. They should fire this idiots. Give control to players so that the game is somehow balanced. Because as long Blizzard is touching it this game will not be the great balanced rts title. If one gets offended by this just take a deep breath. THINK! And than agree on me. Well its like this, and i am proud to use it  + Show Spoiler + Thank your God for me ps: Rest of Article is like IGN, Titenfall, Believe the Hype. We all know where this went. pps: Thank your for the effort you put in. You made my day with it. User was warned for this post | ||
NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On December 13 2014 10:12 tomastaz wrote: can't argue with that logic edit: also does anyone seriously know what's up with Mvp lately? Not even playing qualifiers? Perhaps recovering his wrists till LotV? | ||
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
On December 12 2014 19:44 Zealously wrote: The best players like Life, Taeja, San, Parting, Marineking, MC? There's a long list of players that were nothing or didnt even play in Brood War that have won tournaments since the KESPA switch, so this argument holds little merit After Kespa switch, GSL is like 90% Kespa players and almost all champions are ex-Broodwar players. (Maru is the only one non-Kespa that won after the full switch). All those players did not do that well in Korea and this is why they travel outside where they don't even need to qualify. They are just invited. Look at Taeja, he tried to qualified for IEM Toronto and Kespa Cup and he failed in the first rounds. It's not easy to qualify in Korea. Life also end up in Code B in 2014.. It was much easier for MVP to be dominant, when the game was fresh and the most experienced RTS players were still playing BW. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On December 13 2014 18:18 p14c wrote: After Kespa switch, GSL is like 90% Kespa players and almost all champions are ex-Broodwar players. (Maru is the only one non-Kespa that won after the full switch). All those players did not do that well in Korea and this is why they travel outside where they don't even need to qualify. They are just invited. Look at Taeja, he tried to qualified for IEM Toronto and Kespa Cup and he failed in the first rounds. It's not easy to qualify in Korea. Life also end up in Code B in 2014.. It was much easier for MVP to be dominant, when the game was fresh and the most experienced RTS players were still playing BW. I can hit you with a wall of facts to dispute your claims if you're interested, because you seem to have gotten the chain of events a little wrong or at the very least omitted some significant results. Are you interested in a different, more factually based view, or are you here just to harp on the ex-eSF and non-KeSPA players? | ||
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