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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On November 08 2014 10:56 royalroadweed wrote: Are the stasis units immune to damage like in brood war? Because stasis + storm is terrifying. They are, it says so in the video | ||
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Startyr
Scotland188 Posts
It look s like 1 cyclone beats 1 stalker but blink stalkers might beat them? of course numbers matter. Also does the disrupter cause friendly fire and how many fit inside a warp prism. For example 1 disrupter and 2 sentries although I am guessing it will be gas heavy. A new mineral heavy unit could be useful for protoss but not sure what that could be. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19399 Posts
On November 08 2014 06:44 Plansix wrote: Esports confirmed saved, BisuDagger is back. Hell yeah. I'm really pumped to invest energy into SC2. I really hope beta doesn't eliminate anything. | ||
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Disciple7seveN
France28 Posts
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washikie
United States752 Posts
Also people quite whining Bliz gives us radical changes that will reshape the game and what do we as a community do? We whine on the forums? Appreciate the fact that they are willing to really try to fix the game and improve variety. Also they fulfilled so many community request. Changes to warpins, a way to deal with force fields, more viable mech. Just be happy = ) . | ||
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Omegatemplar
Japan4 Posts
On November 08 2014 10:56 KeksX wrote: The big problem for me is that there's little to be added for Protoss. They have great harrassment with warp prism and great air units, great power units like the colossi/immortal/tempest, great micro opportunities with multiple spellcasters, great strategic possibilities overall. Adding to that could easily make the race way too good. For Zerg and Terran, strategies are much more boring and the new units could change that by a lot! But now Tempest will not attack air units, it will have a air attack but is a dot and not splash damage. I mean, the unit will continue at the battleground until his death, but will do damage in the meantime. By air toss are in trouble. Carriers are very expensive unit. I think this changes at carriers are not so good that seems. Well, again, the game will change for sure, its a few news yet. But what I' saying is the toss needs more love  | ||
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jojos11
Korea (North)314 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On November 08 2014 11:22 jojos11 wrote: lmao tempest cant hit air units means broodlord + swarmhost free win vs protoss Tempests now have the DoT.  | ||
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CyDe
United States1010 Posts
On November 08 2014 11:06 Disciple7seveN wrote: I feel like Protoss is in the same boat as Terran was at the release of HotS: basically the same as the previous expansion... Also, I believe there are some fundamental things that need to be addressed as long as blizz has their radical-change pencil out. There's no good reason why T should continue to be the only race that has to deal with friendly damage... :/ but I'm glad they're shaking things up! We'll have to wait to see where all the pieces fall! I think the Disruptor should deal friendly damage. With an AoE unit like that I feel like friendly fire would force the Protoss to control the unit more. | ||
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CakeSauc3
United States1437 Posts
On November 08 2014 11:22 jojos11 wrote: lmao tempest cant hit air units means broodlord + swarmhost free win vs protoss They said mass swarmhost would no longer be viable due to the increased delay on locust waves. | ||
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
please let the other P unit be ribo  | ||
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
On November 08 2014 11:13 washikie wrote: Seems cool/ I like the cyclone it seems like it will fill the role of a Goliath for mech Terran finally a small mobile mech unit that can deal with mid range units and air. I think the economy change will be interesting it means players can start building units allot sooner which may improve the pace of the game and let people be much more aggressive. I know alot of people will whine about it but I'm in favor of it. For most pro games you can just ff for 2 minutes I like the fact that they are being bold and making bold changes. Also people quite whining Bliz gives us radical changes that will reshape the game and what do we as a community do? We whine on the forums? Appreciate the fact that they are willing to really try to fix the game and improve variety. Also they fulfilled so many community request. Changes to warpins, a way to deal with force fields, more viable mech. Just be happy = ) . I still think this could have been accomplished by redesigning the Thor. Right now the Thor is an unmicroable slow unit, and it has two modes. Why not just buff its mobility a bit and create more focus on its transformation mechanics? What if you had to transform back and fourth between the two modes durin an engagmeent in order to optimize your play? I think this could be really fun and I think the Cyclone has a huge overlop with other terarn units. I don't see how this has any unique role at all. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
Being able to shoot while moving without requiring any player input, is the opposite of micro. | ||
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unpurposed
United States3 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
On November 08 2014 11:29 unpurposed wrote: So does this mean that we shouldn't expect any swarmhost changes before LOTV? I believe so, I don't know if they'll bother to patch HOTS until LOTV. Similar to the era of WinfesterBroodlord, where they waited until HOTS to nerf it instead of patching it out in WOL. | ||
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NexT_SC2
United States117 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13431 Posts
On November 08 2014 11:25 CyDe wrote: I think the Disruptor should deal friendly damage. With an AoE unit like that I feel like friendly fire would force the Protoss to control the unit more. I think they've reworked a lot of our units, pretty substantially ... the oracle is basically a new unit. The immortal is seeing major changes. The photon overcharge hits ground only the warp in changes, protoss has seen a huge change. HUGE. I wouldn't be surprised to see even more in the coming months. Would I like a new unit? Yes. Have they basically just added a unit and done nothing for else for us? Far from it. | ||
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Zanzabarr
Canada217 Posts
Like Hots beta, I'm sure a lot of these proposed Lotv changes will be looked at and tweaked. I like that blizzard is aiming to make some big changes in their final installment, but unless they are willing to take the extra step and fully commit to the changes (which will no doubt require even more fundamental game design modifications), I fear they will simply discover that certain things like the economy rehash won't fly balance wise, and end up scrapping them. | ||
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Ljas
Finland725 Posts
On November 08 2014 11:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Being able to shoot while moving without requiring any player input, is the opposite of micro. But, it does require player input. You can clearly see that it doesn't automatically target anything with it's moving shot ability. The only time we saw it open fire after it's target became invalid was when it was stationary, and with a much slower rate of fire. This really screams to me that moving shot is an activated ability like seeker missiles. | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
On November 08 2014 11:29 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Being able to shoot while moving without requiring any player input, is the opposite of micro. In agreement with Jinro. It's not really moving shot if the unit has to stop and "lock on" to a target every single time before it can move-shoot. My bets is the cyclone's attack is an ability or a weapon that shoots automatically once it is "locked on" -- without requiring further player input. The Cyclone will continue shooting either until the target is dead or is out of range. Once that happens, the cyclone has to stop, lock on to a new target, and can then start "move-shooting" again once it is locked on to a new target. It's a cheap Blizzard™ way of doing moving shot. | ||
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