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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 01 2014 00:05 GMT
#181
On November 01 2014 09:01 v_lm wrote:
Maybe ForGG can have an athlete visa for Season 2 ?

In France ? Good luck with that.

On November 01 2014 08:55 Seiniyta wrote:
Honestly, I feel like with cases like ForGG Blizzard could solve it by adding a clause of (or having at least lived x amount of time in certain region). It would prevent the people that just fly over from Korea to participate in WCS but would allow people that really added to the scene in the NA/EU region.

That's what I was hoping for too. It's not like San who never lived more than 3 consecutive days in Europe. ForGG is in Europe since June 2012, StarDust since June 2013...
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 01 2014 00:05 GMT
#182
That's really unexpected. Unifying WCS AM and EU is not an inherently bad idea, but with only 32 players in Premier, the depth of the scene will really suffer. I hope Blizzard have more up there sleeve to remedy that.

I also dislike how the qualifiers are organized, tightly restricting the regional representation. I would have liked having a few (maybe 2-4) wild card slots where people from all the (non-KR) regions could participate. It would help offset the difference between the perceived strength of a region and their actual strength.
Ruyn
Profile Joined August 2014
Switzerland17 Posts
November 01 2014 00:05 GMT
#183
On November 01 2014 09:00 projectChaos wrote:
this makes me sick and it is a good reason to leave the SC2 scene. Koreans are getting punished for their dedication and discipline for the game and you guys are celebrating it. There were no handicaps for the foreigners, and still they were not able to compete with the Koreans.
I would rather watch a "high level" match between Hyun and MC than a noobgame between Mana and Huk, any day.

Such a desperate move. The last nail in the coffin.


Yeah... if you leave the SC2 scene, i'm sure no one will miss you. You realize that what you are saying doesn't make any senses ? Did you read ? Do you know how the Korean scene is gonna be next year ? Just read the lastest news again please.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 01 2014 00:05 GMT
#184
I think it's ok that most Koreans are going back to their region now with the amount of events they will have. But I am glad Polt/Violet do have an athlete visa so there is a final boss to beat so foreigner's can't be content with being the best foreigner if they want to win .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 01 2014 00:05 GMT
#185
From reddit, regarding Forgg's situation :
"His manager told him about "Blizzard and ESL discussing new rules" 2 weeks ago. But at that point they were still discussing so nothing was even decided yet.

Once he asked ESL staff he was told that they couldn't say anything and it would be announced soon. "

So looks like forgg has 3 months to get his working visas ^^... gl mate lol
ForGG. 29/11/2014
sashkata
Profile Joined September 2008
Bulgaria3241 Posts
November 01 2014 00:06 GMT
#186
On November 01 2014 09:00 projectChaos wrote:
this makes me sick and it is a good reason to leave the SC2 scene. Koreans are getting punished for their dedication and discipline for the game and you guys are celebrating it. There were no handicaps for the foreigners, and still they were not able to compete with the Koreans.
I would rather watch a "high level" match between Hyun and MC than a noobgame between Mana and Huk, any day.

Such a desperate move. The last nail in the coffin.

So watch the Korean scene. They have a lot more tournaments now. Ofc Huyn and MC might not make, but at least you will be watching "high level" games.
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
November 01 2014 00:07 GMT
#187
On November 01 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:49 messioso wrote:
Every Korean in WCS Europe 2014 year was using a visa that is now disallowed.


Do you know anything about WCS AM? Which players had allowed visas?


Violet and Polt are the only two to my knowledge.
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 01 2014 00:08 GMT
#188
On November 01 2014 09:07 messioso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:49 messioso wrote:
Every Korean in WCS Europe 2014 year was using a visa that is now disallowed.


Do you know anything about WCS AM? Which players had allowed visas?


Violet and Polt are the only two to my knowledge.


JYP?
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
November 01 2014 00:08 GMT
#189
On November 01 2014 08:13 Faefae wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/ForGG1/status/528323647593656320
Here we go.
Fuck.
T_T


I thought ForGG had a "Carte de Séjour' (Residence Card) that Mil. went through a great deal to obtain for him? If so, renewing the card under the same employer shouldn't be hard at all as long as they submit the paperwork on time.

Old thread

On October 07 2013 22:55 Otolia wrote:
According to Millenium, he is scheduled to visit the french immigration offices in order for him to have a 1 year working permit.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 01 2014 00:09 GMT
#190
On November 01 2014 09:07 messioso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:49 messioso wrote:
Every Korean in WCS Europe 2014 year was using a visa that is now disallowed.


Do you know anything about WCS AM? Which players had allowed visas?


Violet and Polt are the only two to my knowledge.


Thought so, thank you.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Tanzklaue
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany1413 Posts
November 01 2014 00:11 GMT
#191
On November 01 2014 09:08 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:07 messioso wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:49 messioso wrote:
Every Korean in WCS Europe 2014 year was using a visa that is now disallowed.


Do you know anything about WCS AM? Which players had allowed visas?


Violet and Polt are the only two to my knowledge.


JYP?

does JYP even play, though?
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 01 2014 00:11 GMT
#192
On November 01 2014 09:08 HereBeDragons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:13 Faefae wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/ForGG1/status/528323647593656320
Here we go.
Fuck.
T_T


I thought ForGG had a "Carte de Séjour' (Residence Card) that Mil. went through a great deal to obtain for him? If so, renewing the card under the same employer shouldn't be hard at all as long as they submit the paperwork on time.

Old thread

Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 22:55 Otolia wrote:
According to Millenium, he is scheduled to visit the french immigration offices in order for him to have a 1 year working permit.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/470347-blizzard-announces-2015-wcs-changes?page=7#125
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 01 2014 00:11 GMT
#193
On November 01 2014 09:08 HereBeDragons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 08:13 Faefae wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/ForGG1/status/528323647593656320
Here we go.
Fuck.
T_T


I thought ForGG had a "Carte de Séjour' (Residence Card) that Mil. went through a great deal to obtain for him? If so, renewing the card under the same employer shouldn't be hard at all as long as they submit the paperwork on time.

Old thread

Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 22:55 Otolia wrote:
According to Millenium, he is scheduled to visit the french immigration offices in order for him to have a 1 year working permit.

Looks like his working visa ended 2 months ago and he got a "working holiday" visa in germany. Which is not a good enough visa to play in WCS EU
(cf his tweet : https://twitter.com/ForGG1/status/528323647593656320)
ForGG. 29/11/2014
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
November 01 2014 00:12 GMT
#194
On November 01 2014 09:11 Tanzklaue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:08 DJHelium wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:07 messioso wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:49 messioso wrote:
Every Korean in WCS Europe 2014 year was using a visa that is now disallowed.


Do you know anything about WCS AM? Which players had allowed visas?


Violet and Polt are the only two to my knowledge.


JYP?

does JYP even play, though?


His latest tweet was regarding IEM qualifiers a bit over a week ago, I bet he's still playing!

I tweeted him asking about WCS next year, hopefully he responds!
#1 player in the world atm: J-god | Follow me on twitter! @DJHelium
HereBeDragons
Profile Joined May 2011
1429 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 00:14:05
November 01 2014 00:13 GMT
#195
On November 01 2014 09:11 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:08 HereBeDragons wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:13 Faefae wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/ForGG1/status/528323647593656320
Here we go.
Fuck.
T_T


I thought ForGG had a "Carte de Séjour' (Residence Card) that Mil. went through a great deal to obtain for him? If so, renewing the card under the same employer shouldn't be hard at all as long as they submit the paperwork on time.

Old thread

On October 07 2013 22:55 Otolia wrote:
According to Millenium, he is scheduled to visit the french immigration offices in order for him to have a 1 year working permit.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/470347-blizzard-announces-2015-wcs-changes?page=7#125

Oh wow, that's sad. You're absolutely right; should've taken those French lessons.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
November 01 2014 00:13 GMT
#196
On November 01 2014 09:01 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:00 projectChaos wrote:
this makes me sick and it is a good reason to leave the SC2 scene. Koreans are getting punished for their dedication and discipline for the game and you guys are celebrating it. There were no handicaps for the foreigners, and still they were not able to compete with the Koreans.
I would rather watch a "high level" match between Hyun and MC than a noobgame between Mana and Huk, any day.

Such a desperate move. The last nail in the coffin.


Did you miss the announcement about the Korean scene earlier today?

Selective reading
Refer to my post.
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 01 2014 00:14 GMT
#197
On November 01 2014 09:13 HereBeDragons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:11 Boucot wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:08 HereBeDragons wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:13 Faefae wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
https://twitter.com/ForGG1/status/528323647593656320
Here we go.
Fuck.
T_T


I thought ForGG had a "Carte de Séjour' (Residence Card) that Mil. went through a great deal to obtain for him? If so, renewing the card under the same employer shouldn't be hard at all as long as they submit the paperwork on time.

Old thread

On October 07 2013 22:55 Otolia wrote:
According to Millenium, he is scheduled to visit the french immigration offices in order for him to have a 1 year working permit.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/470347-blizzard-announces-2015-wcs-changes?page=7#125


Oh wow, you're absolutely right. Should've taken French lessons.

Yeah :p I bet if he knew that 1 year before anyone he'd have taken french lesson !
ForGG. 29/11/2014
messioso
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark635 Posts
November 01 2014 00:15 GMT
#198
On November 01 2014 09:08 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:07 messioso wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:49 messioso wrote:
Every Korean in WCS Europe 2014 year was using a visa that is now disallowed.


Do you know anything about WCS AM? Which players had allowed visas?


Violet and Polt are the only two to my knowledge.


JYP?


To my knowledge. I never paid much attention to WCS America and it's players as I didn't need to. First I heard about JYP being in America was today ^^
Former ESL League Operations. I ran IEM/WCS for like 3 years or something. I did map vetos on a tablet. That guy.
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
November 01 2014 00:16 GMT
#199
Only 28 player challanger league for EU? Are you kidding me? :O
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
November 01 2014 00:16 GMT
#200
On November 01 2014 08:51 astray71 wrote:
I foresee Koreans retiring. I foresee NA and EU scene getting weaker. I foresee the days of WoL when Korea beat everyone because they had the best training partners and NA/EU get to train against other foreigners.

Am I wrong or no?

its not like foreigner ever had better chance vs koreans in Hots than in WoL
yo
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