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Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 01 2014 00:37 GMT
#221
On November 01 2014 09:36 mikumegurine wrote:
what about the koreans getting a working visa in taiwan (on taiwan teams too)

would these players be in qualifers from Taiwan then?

i guess yes
ForGG. 29/11/2014
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
November 01 2014 00:37 GMT
#222
On November 01 2014 09:36 mikumegurine wrote:
what about the koreans getting a working visa in taiwan (on taiwan teams too)

would these players be in qualifers from Taiwan then?


Thats a good really point.
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
November 01 2014 00:40 GMT
#223
Im just happy there's qualifiers for regions outside of KR/NA/EU, it was very much due a long time ago.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
November 01 2014 00:40 GMT
#224
On November 01 2014 07:45 Cheren wrote:
There will still be Koreans in this, since all of the EU Koreans besides San have work visas that let them compete for EU spots. Hyun will likely compete for an EU spot since he lives in Germany, and of course we'll see Polt and violet compete for NA spots.

Most of them have working holiday visas which won't count.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18455 Posts
November 01 2014 00:43 GMT
#225
Could TL staff add the thing about the working holiday visas in OP?
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
November 01 2014 00:44 GMT
#226
On November 01 2014 09:40 Clbull wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 07:45 Cheren wrote:
There will still be Koreans in this, since all of the EU Koreans besides San have work visas that let them compete for EU spots. Hyun will likely compete for an EU spot since he lives in Germany, and of course we'll see Polt and violet compete for NA spots.

Most of them have working holiday visas which won't count.


might be easier to get a working visa in Taiwan? (any Taiwanese able to confirm)?

then could be path for koreans to take, and Taiwan is close to Korea too, so they wont be moving too far i guess...

Also, about the merge of NA and EU...

theres 50% less live WCS SC2 to watch for some people...like for example you could watch WCS EU, then few hours later WCS NA comes on for tons of SC2

sure theres another korean league to watch now but its at korean standard time so for some/many? foreigners they will ahve to watch the korean leagues from vods?...
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 00:47:42
November 01 2014 00:45 GMT
#227
On November 01 2014 09:44 mikumegurine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:40 Clbull wrote:
On November 01 2014 07:45 Cheren wrote:
There will still be Koreans in this, since all of the EU Koreans besides San have work visas that let them compete for EU spots. Hyun will likely compete for an EU spot since he lives in Germany, and of course we'll see Polt and violet compete for NA spots.

Most of them have working holiday visas which won't count.


might be easier to get a working visa in Taiwan? (any Taiwanese able to confirm)?

then could be path for koreans to take, and Taiwan is close to Korea too, so they wont be moving too far i guess...

Also, about the merge of NA and EU...

theres 50% less live WCS SC2 to watch for some people...like for example you could watch WCS EU, then few hours later WCS NA comes on for tons of SC2

sure theres another korean league to watch now but its at korean standard time so for some/many? foreigners they will ahve to watch the korean leagues from vods?...


Breaker said that it's really hard.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/466657-pros-react-wcs-2015-and-region-lock?page=5#89
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
DARKING
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Mexico674 Posts
November 01 2014 00:46 GMT
#228
On November 01 2014 09:36 mikumegurine wrote:
what about the koreans getting a working visa in taiwan (on taiwan teams too)

would these players be in qualifers from Taiwan then?


I remember Breaker saying once none of the Koreans on Taiwan have a working visa. Not sure if this has changed recently (he said this a few months ago), would be nice of him to drop by and tell us the status of these Koreans.
LiquipediaMexican Liquipedia staff and Terran player. I tweet things @DARKING665.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 01 2014 00:46 GMT
#229
On November 01 2014 09:23 JustPassingBy wrote:
Let's hope the situation with ForGG can be fixed. It would really be a bad joke if he is not allowed to participate in WCS EU.
Can't Millenium just give him a working visa? He's been around in France like since forever in esports time.

A company doesn't deliver a visa. The country does.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 01 2014 00:47 GMT
#230
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 01 2014 00:49 GMT
#231
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?

Both good and bad.
Hope it helps !
ForGG. 29/11/2014
REyeM
Profile Joined August 2014
2674 Posts
November 01 2014 00:49 GMT
#232
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?


Just watch this..

+ Show Spoiler +
S4 Arrows, never forget. RIP Woongjin Stars.
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 01 2014 00:50 GMT
#233
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/470347-blizzard-announces-2015-wcs-changes?page=3#56
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
November 01 2014 00:51 GMT
#234
On November 01 2014 09:49 Faefae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?

Both good and bad.
Hope it helps !

Well I already feel bad, so I guess I'll feel more good now!

On November 01 2014 09:49 REyeM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?


Just watch this..

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmfd9etbXGE


Ha, funny guy. But it's not gonna help right now...
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 00:55:10
November 01 2014 00:52 GMT
#235
Jaedong............WHERE U GOING GO!!!!!!??
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 01 2014 00:52 GMT
#236
On November 01 2014 09:52 mikumegurine wrote:
Jaedong............WHERE U GOING GO!!!!!??

Army
ForGG. 29/11/2014
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
November 01 2014 00:54 GMT
#237
On November 01 2014 09:18 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:17 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:00 projectChaos wrote:
this makes me sick and it is a good reason to leave the SC2 scene. Koreans are getting punished for their dedication and discipline for the game and you guys are celebrating it. There were no handicaps for the foreigners, and still they were not able to compete with the Koreans.
I would rather watch a "high level" match between Hyun and MC than a noobgame between Mana and Huk, any day.

Such a desperate move. The last nail in the coffin.


Whatever bro, the "last nail in the coffin" has been going into SC2 since end of 2011.


Maybe it's just a really long nail in a really fucking thick coffin


Being hammered with a spoon.
-


Might be too few spots for a tournament that includes the world, however. With the Korean scene getting a boost it may be that blizzard is trying to get Korean players back into Korea to gain support in Korea. This allows for more foreign players to play in WCS, whose purpose is now to give consistent competition for these players. Only a select few foreigners can challenge Koreans. With the WCS change it is designed to weed out the bad players and allow the good one's a consistent avenue for competition and improve. Shame that fewer international people can see Koreans play live due to region lock but at least Koreans won't have to leave Korea to find tournaments/ get paid. Then again there are the few that have the VISA/ residency requirements but the long term is to bring them back home. There still are the side tourney's/ LANs.

The biggest loss is lack of Koreans in prime time/ live but I guess Korea is a bigger target.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 01 2014 00:55 GMT
#238
On November 01 2014 09:52 Faefae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:52 mikumegurine wrote:
Jaedong............WHERE U GOING GO!!!!!??

Army

Wut ?
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Aridhol
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany59 Posts
November 01 2014 00:55 GMT
#239
wait, wait...

didnt naniwa said he would come back if there is a wcs without koreans? maybe we are lucky...
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
November 01 2014 00:56 GMT
#240
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?


In my opinion we have to wait until more info about the prize money distribution and the qualifier/challenger format are known. Could be really great if those are handled correctly, if not, even despite the fact that most koreans are gone, not enough players will profit from it and even less might get money/exposure than this year.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
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