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JustPassingBy
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KrazyTrumpet
United States2520 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:00 projectChaos wrote: this makes me sick and it is a good reason to leave the SC2 scene. Koreans are getting punished for their dedication and discipline for the game and you guys are celebrating it. There were no handicaps for the foreigners, and still they were not able to compete with the Koreans. I would rather watch a "high level" match between Hyun and MC than a noobgame between Mana and Huk, any day. Such a desperate move. The last nail in the coffin. Whatever bro, the "last nail in the coffin" has been going into SC2 since end of 2011. I think he has a student visa, right? Which is not a proper working/athlete visa like the kind Violet has. | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:15 messioso wrote: To my knowledge. I never paid much attention to WCS America and it's players as I didn't need to. First I heard about JYP being in America was today ^^ Yeah he has only been there a bit over a month I think. Btw, do you know how (for example) #9-14 players will be decided in EU? #9-16 placed play, then losers play again and losers are out? | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:17 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Whatever bro, the "last nail in the coffin" has been going into SC2 since end of 2011. Maybe it's just a really long nail in a really fucking thick coffin | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
NA will have 16 player challenger. | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
Europe: 10 Koreans, 22 Europeans America: 8 NA, 1 Latin (Mexico is Latin I guess?), 16 Koreans, 5 Chinese, 1 Taiwanese, 1 SEA 2015: 14 Europeans (-8), 8 NA (-), 4 Chinese (-1), 2 Latin (+1), 2 SEA (+1), 2 Taiwanese (+1) is that correct? I'm a bit sad for the Koreans that actually lived in Europe for the passed 1-2 years. StarDust, ForGG, jjakji, etc... they did help the European scene a lot I think | ||
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projectChaos
154 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:06 sashkata wrote: So watch the Korean scene. They have a lot more tournaments now. Ofc Huyn and MC might not make, but at least you will be watching "high level" games. Guys like MC and Hyun came "here"(to the foreign world) by choice and they obviously enjoy it. Why would you force them to go back to Korea just through a formality. I can`t watch Korean tournaments because they begin very early and I rather watch tournaments life. Additionally there are other cofactors why a lot of foreigners prefer to watch foreign tournaments despite them being overrun by Koreans (especially in the later rounds) like casters, english host etc. Now we will be stucked with the Blys and Blings who are practicing 2 hours a week, it seems. | ||
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Dingodile
4139 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:00 projectChaos wrote: this makes me sick and it is a good reason to leave the SC2 scene. Koreans are getting punished for their dedication and discipline for the game and you guys are celebrating it. There were no handicaps for the foreigners, and still they were not able to compete with the Koreans. I would rather watch a "high level" match between Hyun and MC than a noobgame between Mana and Huk, any day. Such a desperate move. The last nail in the coffin. Chances are higher than ever before that you can see Hyun vs MC. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
Can't Millenium just give him a working visa? He's been around in France like since forever in esports time. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:22 projectChaos wrote: Guys like MC and Hyun came "here"(to the foreign world) by choice and they obviously enjoy it. Why would you force them to go back to Korea just through a formality. I can`t watch Korean tournaments because they begin very early and I rather watch tournaments life. Additionally there are other cofactors why a lot of foreigners prefer to watch foreign tournaments despite them being overrun by Koreans (especially in the later rounds) like casters, english host etc. Now we will be stucked with the Blys and Blings who are practicing 2 hours a week, it seems. MC was already going back to korea before this? | ||
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Draconicfire
Canada2562 Posts
Would be cool if they had two 32 player tournaments that merged into a global tournament. Say WCS AM and WCS EU held their events like usual. But the top 8 in each tournament get put into a global 16 player tournament. | ||
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
cause the latency is a huge factor | ||
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Yhamm
France7248 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:26 mikumegurine wrote: any NA vs EU matches will be played only offline right?? cause the latency is a huge factor all Ro32 and onwards are Offline you can't have Eu vs NA online | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:22 projectChaos wrote: Guys like MC and Hyun came "here"(to the foreign world) by choice and they obviously enjoy it. Why would you force them to go back to Korea just through a formality. I can`t watch Korean tournaments because they begin very early and I rather watch tournaments life. Additionally there are other cofactors why a lot of foreigners prefer to watch foreign tournaments despite them being overrun by Koreans (especially in the later rounds) like casters, english host etc. Now we will be stucked with the Blys and Blings who are practicing 2 hours a week, it seems. With only 32 slots in foreigner premier, and the way it is distributed, I really doubt players of the caliber of Bly and Bling will make it to premier Maybe the latin america player who is not major will be a bit weak, and the players from SEA will be weak too, but everyone else will be very strong by foreigner standards. | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:19 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: So with 28 player challenger, only 28 players get money from WCS challenger/premier (EU). This year EU had 48 people in challanger/premier. NA will have 16 player challenger. So in other words that means 41,7% less spots for EU players. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
There should be 3 qualifiers feeding into WCS in my opinion: 1. One qualifier played on the EU server for all players living in the EU ladder region (Europe, Africa, middle east) 2. One qualifier played on the AM server for all players living in the AM ladder region (North and South America) 3. One qualifier played on the SEA server for all players living in the SEA ladder region plus China Starting from Season 2 onwards, each qualifier seeds 8 people into the main event, with addition 8 slots freely allocated between the three qualifiers depending on the performance of the players in the last season. | ||
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
or are the koreans that live in NA and EU visas not eligible anymore? | ||
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DJHelium
Sweden13480 Posts
On November 01 2014 09:17 KrazyTrumpet wrote: Whatever bro, the "last nail in the coffin" has been going into SC2 since end of 2011. I think he has a student visa, right? Which is not a proper working/athlete visa like the kind Violet has. Examples of acceptable identification Professional athlete visa Work visa Student visa So it should work just fine! On November 01 2014 09:29 mikumegurine wrote: so even less spots in premier (50% less), ready to be grabbed up by all the koreans on foreigner teams? All the koreans don't have proper visas. Only ones who do afaik are Polt, Violet and JYP. | ||
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geokilla
Canada8244 Posts
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
would these players be in qualifers from Taiwan then? and whoa gratz for Polt and Violet getting their visas done early, so they dont have to fuss about this like other koreans should be easy pickings for them in this league | ||
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