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Blizzard announces 2015 WCS changes - Page 13

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Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
November 01 2014 00:56 GMT
#241
spotv prizepool also included in that 1,6m total wcs prizepool? If so then unified wcs dont have double prizepool.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 01 2014 00:56 GMT
#242
On November 01 2014 09:55 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:52 Faefae wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:52 mikumegurine wrote:
Jaedong............WHERE U GOING GO!!!!!??

Army

Wut ?

Just kidding, i guess he'll go back to KR ? Or get a working visa in the uS in time, i don't know..
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28524 Posts
November 01 2014 00:57 GMT
#243
Wow, you sure have to like change if you follow WCS.. oO
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
November 01 2014 00:58 GMT
#244
On November 01 2014 09:56 Faefae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:55 Boucot wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:52 Faefae wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:52 mikumegurine wrote:
Jaedong............WHERE U GOING GO!!!!!??

Army

Wut ?

Just kidding, i guess he'll go back to KR ? Or get a working visa in the uS in time, i don't know..

Def Korea
Refer to my post.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 01 2014 00:58 GMT
#245
On November 01 2014 09:56 Musicus wrote:
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On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?


In my opinion we have to wait until more info about the prize money distribution and the qualifier/challenger format are known. Could be really great if those are handled correctly, if not, even despite the fact that most koreans are gone, not enough players will profit from it and even less might get money/exposure than this year.

challenger format is not changed
just look at http://d299ks0j9y7dbf.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/format_2015_wcs_premier_v2.jpg

"14 new, 14 old"

same bo5 than we had this year
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Faefae
Profile Joined June 2014
2203 Posts
November 01 2014 00:58 GMT
#246
On November 01 2014 09:58 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:56 Faefae wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:55 Boucot wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:52 Faefae wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:52 mikumegurine wrote:
Jaedong............WHERE U GOING GO!!!!!??

Army

Wut ?

Just kidding, i guess he'll go back to KR ? Or get a working visa in the uS in time, i don't know..

Def Korea

Yeah but maybe for next year's WCS he'l be able to come back in WCS NA ?
ForGG. 29/11/2014
Pino
Profile Joined June 2013
1032 Posts
November 01 2014 00:59 GMT
#247
I say farewell to any foreigner at blizzcon in 2015... I'm kinda sad about that.

mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
November 01 2014 00:59 GMT
#248
On November 01 2014 09:58 Faefae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:58 Zenbrez wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:56 Faefae wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:55 Boucot wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:52 Faefae wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:52 mikumegurine wrote:
Jaedong............WHERE U GOING GO!!!!!??

Army

Wut ?

Just kidding, i guess he'll go back to KR ? Or get a working visa in the uS in time, i don't know..

Def Korea

Yeah but maybe for next year's WCS he'l be able to come back in WCS NA ?


yea who knows, every year WCS changes

like every seasons, map change

every year WCS change
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 01:01:52
November 01 2014 01:01 GMT
#249
On November 01 2014 09:58 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:56 Musicus wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?


In my opinion we have to wait until more info about the prize money distribution and the qualifier/challenger format are known. Could be really great if those are handled correctly, if not, even despite the fact that most koreans are gone, not enough players will profit from it and even less might get money/exposure than this year.

challenger format is not changed
just look at http://d299ks0j9y7dbf.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/format_2015_wcs_premier_v2.jpg

"14 new, 14 old"

same bo5 than we had this year


Could still be 7 groups with 4 players, top 2 advance. I don't see anything about single bo5s there. It would suck hard if they made it like that again I think.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 01:03:31
November 01 2014 01:02 GMT
#250
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?


Feel good, I have a good feeling about this. As long as most of the Koreans go back to Korea as planned you just got the best of EU/NA + the world and it makes sense b/c I don't think there was enough depth there to run their own leagues with the Koreans gone. Especially NA. I'm personally much more excited for this as a viewer and I think it will be good for the players too. And it's good for the foreign Koreans who don't have to struggle with visas and flying around the world all the time to try and make a living, now they have a real shot to do it back home which I think they preferred. I think everyone wins here.

This is something a lot closer to what they should have been doing 2 years ago and that's what a lot of people were saying back then. It's a shame that it's taken them this long to get here when I think it's clear this is much closer to what WCS should have looked like in the first place.
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
November 01 2014 01:03 GMT
#251
Meh, doesn't seem good at all. I have no idea how they'll manage scheduling efficiently with the premier league, and merging AM and EU and kicking out the Koreans just lowers the quality. The EU qualifiers gained from having the Koreans there since players stepped up their game a lot; I wouldn't say the same about the AM servers which have less high-caliber players.
I guess two Korean leagues is the silver lining, but reduced quality and fewer chances for Korean pros in the foreign scene really isn't a good solution imo.
1000 at least.
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
November 01 2014 01:04 GMT
#252
On November 01 2014 10:01 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:58 Yhamm wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:56 Musicus wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?


In my opinion we have to wait until more info about the prize money distribution and the qualifier/challenger format are known. Could be really great if those are handled correctly, if not, even despite the fact that most koreans are gone, not enough players will profit from it and even less might get money/exposure than this year.

challenger format is not changed
just look at http://d299ks0j9y7dbf.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/format_2015_wcs_premier_v2.jpg

"14 new, 14 old"

same bo5 than we had this year


Could still be 7 groups with 4 players, top 2 advance. I don't see anything about single bo5s there. It would suck hard if they made it like that again I think.

it does not change
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
November 01 2014 01:05 GMT
#253
On November 01 2014 09:58 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:56 Musicus wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?


In my opinion we have to wait until more info about the prize money distribution and the qualifier/challenger format are known. Could be really great if those are handled correctly, if not, even despite the fact that most koreans are gone, not enough players will profit from it and even less might get money/exposure than this year.

challenger format is not changed
just look at http://d299ks0j9y7dbf.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/format_2015_wcs_premier_v2.jpg

"14 new, 14 old"

same bo5 than we had this year

I just figured that even the winner of each season has to requalify. What an odd system.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 01 2014 01:06 GMT
#254
I guess it'll be interesting to see how this plays out
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 01:12:25
November 01 2014 01:09 GMT
#255
On November 01 2014 10:05 Boucot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:58 Yhamm wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:56 Musicus wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:47 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Guys, I have a massive headache and dont feel like thinking right now... can someone just tell me how to feel about this?


In my opinion we have to wait until more info about the prize money distribution and the qualifier/challenger format are known. Could be really great if those are handled correctly, if not, even despite the fact that most koreans are gone, not enough players will profit from it and even less might get money/exposure than this year.

challenger format is not changed
just look at http://d299ks0j9y7dbf.cloudfront.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/format_2015_wcs_premier_v2.jpg

"14 new, 14 old"

same bo5 than we had this year

I just figured that even the winner of each season has to requalify. What an odd system.


If that's the case, then they already failed. Would just be stupid to see Snute, Happy, Vortix, Bunny etc knock each other out every season. I hope it's not final yet.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
KrazyTrumpet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2520 Posts
November 01 2014 01:10 GMT
#256
On November 01 2014 09:30 DJHelium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:17 KrazyTrumpet wrote:
Whatever bro, the "last nail in the coffin" has been going into SC2 since end of 2011.

On November 01 2014 09:08 DJHelium wrote:
On November 01 2014 09:07 messioso wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:55 Zealously wrote:
On November 01 2014 08:49 messioso wrote:
Every Korean in WCS Europe 2014 year was using a visa that is now disallowed.


Do you know anything about WCS AM? Which players had allowed visas?


Violet and Polt are the only two to my knowledge.


JYP?


I think he has a student visa, right? Which is not a proper working/athlete visa like the kind Violet has.


Show nested quote +
Examples of acceptable identification
Professional athlete visa
Work visa
Student visa


So it should work just fine!

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 09:29 mikumegurine wrote:
so even less spots in premier (50% less), ready to be grabbed up by all the koreans on foreigner teams?


All the koreans don't have proper visas. Only ones who do afaik are Polt, Violet and JYP.


Oh shit, good call. I missed student visa being acceptable.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
November 01 2014 01:10 GMT
#257
mikumegurine
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada3145 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-01 01:17:07
November 01 2014 01:12 GMT
#258
Snute vs Scarlett

Z v Z grandfinals

yeaaaaaa!!

oh wait...its going to be Polt vs Violet... probably..


btw student visa works right?

how hard is it to get a student visa for community college? in Taiwan , Macau etc if not NA or EU
Dragoonstorm7
Profile Joined December 2012
United States599 Posts
November 01 2014 01:13 GMT
#259
had to be this way imho.
im sorry, but the american region would literally have been giving free money/points to Polt.
Captain america won NA twice with a ton of koreans, so with him and violet being the only ones that would get to stay the level of competition would be totally screwed.

48 might have been a better number overall imo, but its also much harder to work with than 32.
oblivion awaits- dark archon (aka best unit ever)
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
November 01 2014 01:13 GMT
#260
So for the WCS NA+EU one you will always be in challenger next season?
That's kinda odd tbh
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