• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:15
CET 06:15
KST 14:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1815Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1005 users

ForGG forfeits IEM New York, replaced by Revival

Forum Index > SC2 General
133 CommentsPost a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 18:12:21
October 07 2013 13:47 GMT
#1
From intelextrememasters.com:
UPDATE: ForGG is not able to attend the event and his spot will be taken by Revival instead. The Group Graphic below has been updated accordingly.

source: IEM

update 1
On October 07 2013 22:55 Otolia wrote:
According to Millenium, he is scheduled to visit the french immigration offices in order for him to have a 1 year working permit.

Very bitter when you see that other teams aren't doing the same for their players ...

Source Millenium

more details:
On October 08 2013 01:41 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 01:34 HereBeDragons wrote:
I've been through the French immigration system before. I obviously don't have the details, but I'm guessing that he is transitioning from a "Long/Short-stay Visa" to a "Residence Card." If this is the case then this magic card would be equivalent to a schengen visa, except it's 1 year long. (Multiple years are harder to apply for). The rules changes every year (figuratively speaking), but generally renewing your residence card is less of a hassle than asking for a new visa.

Depending on which city he lives in, each appointment with the immigration services can be 1hour or sometimes 6hours!

This guy is right. ForGG will become (to my knowledge) the only Korean Starcraft 2 player with legitimate working contract and permit. He sacrificed much of his season to get to that point so let's hope 2014 will be kinder on him.


update 2
Nazaroth wrote:
In answer to the issues raised with replacing ForGG with Revival, we wanted to make sure everyone was clear on how this happened. Firstly, ForGG still has a flight, he chose not to take it, however it was booked for him and remains valid if he wanted to go.

Unfortunately, as the flight was already booked we cannot in the short space of time grant the paid slot to those players next in line (Nerchio and Grubby) thus have to look at those players who have requested un-paid slots if one comes up. Revival was on that list of players and agreed when approached to attend at very short notice. The price of doing so is not insignificant, so obviously not everyone could afford a last minute un-paid slot. Both Nerchio and Grubby were approached some time ago and asked if they wanted an un-paid slot if it came up and both declined.

We do however apologise that our rules on replacements aren’t clear enough and will make sure this is corrected. Apologies for the confusion.

source: www.reddit.com/r/starcraft

update 3
Grubby wrote:
I don't know about Nerchio but I was asked regarding an unpaid slot in the open bracket, not in the main tournament. There's an important difference. I do appreciate the quick answer and explanation. #visaissuesdosuck

source: www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/
Facebook Twitter Reddit
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6330 Posts
October 07 2013 13:51 GMT
#2
So he is out of BlizzCon?
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-07 13:56:04
October 07 2013 13:55 GMT
#3
updated op to link to IEM rather than gosugamers who links to IEM.
edit: I wonder what the reason is, I hope it is nothing health related.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
October 07 2013 13:55 GMT
#4
According to Millenium, he is scheduled to visit the french immigration offices in order for him to have a 1 year working permit.

Very bitter when you see that other teams aren't doing the same for their players ...

Source Millenium
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 07 2013 13:57 GMT
#5
On October 07 2013 22:51 digmouse wrote:
So he is out of BlizzCon?

If I remember correctly, he would be out of BlizzCon with anything less than 2nd place, and even a 2nd place or higher wouldn't guarantee his spot (if he won IEM, it would only increase his chance to 40%).
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
October 07 2013 14:02 GMT
#6
Well, he gets his working permit. That's a good thing.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
warcralft
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore609 Posts
October 07 2013 14:05 GMT
#7
Why revival? Shouldnt nerchio take his place since nerchio finished 3rd at the qualifiers? What a stupid replacement.
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
October 07 2013 14:06 GMT
#8
I think replacements at IEM are taken from WCS ranking. (as i recall it was the same case last IEM with someone)
I don't get it either...but maybe nerchio couldn't go aswell?
AzBozz
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany518 Posts
October 07 2013 14:08 GMT
#9
32 players only 5 terrans TT
MMA | MVP|Teaja|Polt|MKP|Byun|Maru|Thorzain|Creator|HasuObs|Socke|Lucifron|Vortix|Mana|Heromarine / PRIME and Mousesports fighting!!
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
October 07 2013 14:10 GMT
#10
On October 07 2013 23:08 AzBozz wrote:
32 players only 5 terrans TT

so you're saying it's an average tournament
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 07 2013 14:13 GMT
#11
On October 07 2013 23:10 mechengineer123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 23:08 AzBozz wrote:
32 players only 5 terrans TT

so you're saying it's an average tournament


It would be average if it were a foreign tournament, which this is not... ;;
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
October 07 2013 14:15 GMT
#12
one less terran...
God help us.

still kinda cool if he can get a working permit.
RIP MKP
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
October 07 2013 14:19 GMT
#13
Cool that ForGG is getting replaced, but I don't know exactly why they chose Revival? My guess is that they probably looked at the WCS Rankings and took the one that was available and highest points.

Logically the one replacing ForGG should be Nerchio who came 3rd in the EU Qualifier (Behind NaNiwa and ForGG).
Also known as Joinsimon on Twitter/Reddit
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 07 2013 14:21 GMT
#14
ForGG missed 2 DreamHacks, 1 ASUS ROG, 1 HomeStory Cup, basically 1 WCS season and now 1 IEM because of his visa. The last three months have been a nightmare for him although he could have had very good chances in every single of these tournaments. This is just sad. Thank you french administration, please never change.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Aynophae
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain44 Posts
October 07 2013 14:22 GMT
#15
On October 07 2013 23:08 AzBozz wrote:
32 players only 5 terrans TT


And a Terran will take it, seems normal.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
October 07 2013 14:28 GMT
#16
On October 07 2013 23:22 Aynophae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 23:08 AzBozz wrote:
32 players only 5 terrans TT


And a Terran will take it, seems normal.


LOL.

Basically, this.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
October 07 2013 14:31 GMT
#17
yay Revival ! But really sad for ForGG at the same time :<
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 07 2013 14:33 GMT
#18
Big shame ForGG won't play ):
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8670 Posts
October 07 2013 14:34 GMT
#19
On October 07 2013 23:22 Aynophae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 23:08 AzBozz wrote:
32 players only 5 terrans TT


And a Terran will take it, seems normal.


yeah, the lesser terrans there are the higher chances they have to take a tournament ~
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
NovaMB
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany9534 Posts
October 07 2013 14:34 GMT
#20
If Revival takes the direct seed into the group stages I think NaNiwa is pretty screwed for Blizzcon.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 7h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 228
StarCraft: Brood War
ZergMaN 162
Hyun 105
Icarus 7
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm159
febbydoto116
LuMiX1
League of Legends
C9.Mang0569
Super Smash Bros
Westballz50
Other Games
Mew2King42
amsayoshi35
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1342
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH154
• HeavenSC 121
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 38
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra5172
Upcoming Events
OSC
1d 7h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 21h
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.