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#Dreampool: Old ladder maps return for Season 4 - Page 14

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
September 16 2014 22:12 GMT
#261
On September 17 2014 07:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:58 Circumstance wrote:
Golden responds to this in classic Golden fasion.



Seriously, that map doesn't look THAT imbalanced. you can quite easily take the third once you have destroyed the rocks.
the other bases are a little harder to take but its still managable.
am i missing something or why does everyone say that map is so imbalanced.
Compared to maps like blistering sands or incineration zone the map seems extremely well balanced



On steppes of war my main strategy was a 12 drone rush. (double extractor trick)

The map was awesome.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
September 16 2014 22:13 GMT
#262
On September 17 2014 07:08 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 07:03 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Even progamers are playing dumb. What are they thinking ? That a good old game on Steppes of War will prepare them well to the next WCS season ? I wonder how many people will still find the situation funny after a week if bad maps actually make it to the map pool.


why is it dumb to have 2-3 weird maps in the pool?
it will be very interesting to see how they will play out on the new maps and if you don't want to play them anymore you can veto them.
Nobody wants a mappool with only maps from the first season of wol but 2-3 maps will be very funny


Maybe because the maps we're talking about aren't just weird, which can be in a great way (Habitation Station is a weird, unusual but solid map), but they're horrible maps on which games will be plain boring and abusive. I have no problems with seeing weird maps if they're good, which they usually aren't, but terrible maps shouldn't even be considered.
fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
September 16 2014 22:13 GMT
#263
Steppes of War , I am not even joking
Metalopolis, cross position only
Xel'Naga caverns

I would like to make a plea for the 4v4 map pool : why did you never try to introduce CruX breeze, the TLMC 2 grand winner, a fucking great map that reminds us very strongly of BGH. Damn, I even play that map versus computers just for fun ><

And among some slightly less liked :
Shattered Temple
Neo Planet S

fezvez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France3021 Posts
September 16 2014 22:14 GMT
#264
On September 17 2014 07:04 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:58 Circumstance wrote:
Golden responds to this in classic Golden fasion.

https://twitter.com/Ai_Golden/status/511940119813959680


Seriously, that map doesn't look THAT imbalanced. you can quite easily take the third once you have destroyed the rocks.
the other bases are a little harder to take but its still managable.
am i missing something or why does everyone say that map is so imbalanced.
Compared to maps like blistering sands or incineration zone the map seems extremely well balanced


I agree with you it doesn't look that bad, except that the #1 problem was the extremely short rush distance. Like, really super super short. It was hilarious
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
September 16 2014 22:20 GMT
#265
I guess the moral of this #nightmarepool will boil down to "never allow people to choose", which usually ends up with Steppes of War on ladder because "it will be so much fun !" or the likes of Haider to be in power because "sometimes that guy makes good points".
Psione
Profile Joined March 2014
United States45 Posts
September 16 2014 22:24 GMT
#266
On September 17 2014 06:10 TheFish7 wrote:
ugh no, please, not steppes of war. That map was inherently flawed, a new meta and new units cannot fix that map. You can just bounce between the two entrances to the main and automatically pull the defender out of position...

Also, desert oasis, it's fun and all but the 3rd bases are just simply wayy to far for that map to ever work.

Where is your sense of adventure?
Community Manager - StarCraft II - Twitter: @PsioneBlizzard
Gen.Rolly
Profile Joined September 2011
United States200 Posts
September 16 2014 22:25 GMT
#267
Daybreak, please. Best map ever made in my opinion.
Vector locked in.
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 22:32:49
September 16 2014 22:29 GMT
#268
On September 17 2014 07:24 Psione wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 06:10 TheFish7 wrote:
ugh no, please, not steppes of war. That map was inherently flawed, a new meta and new units cannot fix that map. You can just bounce between the two entrances to the main and automatically pull the defender out of position...

Also, desert oasis, it's fun and all but the 3rd bases are just simply wayy to far for that map to ever work.

Where is your sense of adventure?


Please tell me you didn't expect people to be this dumb and already regret your announcement. What are you going to do if people are really stupid enough to vote for let's say five 2010 maps ?

I did think that this was a great idea which would give us a great map pool made of loved classics, but I would never have expected so many trolls (or plain stupid people, it's hard to tell) in the community.
Popparockz
Profile Joined April 2011
United States40 Posts
September 16 2014 22:30 GMT
#269
We clearly need steps of war back. It was the best map ever righhhhhht?
HCMystK
Profile Joined April 2014
United States1 Post
September 16 2014 22:31 GMT
#270
All for Fruitland and Fruitland for ALL!!!! I want all the fruits +_+
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 16 2014 22:33 GMT
#271
steppes of war baby
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
September 16 2014 22:37 GMT
#272
On September 17 2014 07:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 07:24 Psione wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 TheFish7 wrote:
ugh no, please, not steppes of war. That map was inherently flawed, a new meta and new units cannot fix that map. You can just bounce between the two entrances to the main and automatically pull the defender out of position...

Also, desert oasis, it's fun and all but the 3rd bases are just simply wayy to far for that map to ever work.

Where is your sense of adventure?


Please tell me you didn't expect people to be this dumb and already regret your announcement. What are you going to do if people are really stupid enough to vote for let's say five 2010 maps ?

I did think that this was a great idea which would give us a great map pool made of loved classics, but I would never have expected so many trolls (or plain stupid people, it's hard to tell) in the community.


No, no, no. You just don't get it. We don't have time for classics!

If we're going to do this, we need to make a point. The FINAL nail in the coffin. A definitive statement.

A testament...to the maps of 2010. We need to PROVE, once and for all, that those maps...

Are absolutely fucking atrocious.

And give Protoss and Terran players a bunch of free wins while we're at it.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
mythandier
Profile Joined January 2011
United States828 Posts
September 16 2014 22:38 GMT
#273
Two words: Jungle Basin
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 22:42:47
September 16 2014 22:40 GMT
#274
On September 17 2014 07:37 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 07:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:24 Psione wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 TheFish7 wrote:
ugh no, please, not steppes of war. That map was inherently flawed, a new meta and new units cannot fix that map. You can just bounce between the two entrances to the main and automatically pull the defender out of position...

Also, desert oasis, it's fun and all but the 3rd bases are just simply wayy to far for that map to ever work.

Where is your sense of adventure?


Please tell me you didn't expect people to be this dumb and already regret your announcement. What are you going to do if people are really stupid enough to vote for let's say five 2010 maps ?

I did think that this was a great idea which would give us a great map pool made of loved classics, but I would never have expected so many trolls (or plain stupid people, it's hard to tell) in the community.


No, no, no. You just don't get it. We don't have time for classics!

If we're going to do this, we need to make a point. The FINAL nail in the coffin. A definitive statement.

A testament...to the maps of 2010. We need to PROVE, once and for all, that those maps...

Are absolutely fucking atrocious.

And give Protoss and Terran players a bunch of free wins while we're at it.


I guess your post is meant to be fun -which it is-, but it's sad if all this really ends up proving how atrocious early maps people seem to regret so much were instead of being a tribute to the best maps we ever had, especially since there are some really great maps to highlight that HotS players may have never played and would probably still be solid in HotS (and I'm not thinking Steppes of War).
dracularulez
Profile Joined October 2012
Egypt9 Posts
September 16 2014 22:48 GMT
#275
entombed valley,akilon wastes,ohana,yeonsu,metropolis,alterzim stronghold,deadwing
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
September 16 2014 22:49 GMT
#276
On September 17 2014 07:40 [PkF] Wire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 07:37 Qwyn wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:29 [PkF] Wire wrote:
On September 17 2014 07:24 Psione wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:10 TheFish7 wrote:
ugh no, please, not steppes of war. That map was inherently flawed, a new meta and new units cannot fix that map. You can just bounce between the two entrances to the main and automatically pull the defender out of position...

Also, desert oasis, it's fun and all but the 3rd bases are just simply wayy to far for that map to ever work.

Where is your sense of adventure?


Please tell me you didn't expect people to be this dumb and already regret your announcement. What are you going to do if people are really stupid enough to vote for let's say five 2010 maps ?

I did think that this was a great idea which would give us a great map pool made of loved classics, but I would never have expected so many trolls (or plain stupid people, it's hard to tell) in the community.


No, no, no. You just don't get it. We don't have time for classics!

If we're going to do this, we need to make a point. The FINAL nail in the coffin. A definitive statement.

A testament...to the maps of 2010. We need to PROVE, once and for all, that those maps...

Are absolutely fucking atrocious.

And give Protoss and Terran players a bunch of free wins while we're at it.


I guess your post is meant to be fun -which it is-, but it's sad if all this really ends up proving how atrocious early maps people seem to regret so much were instead of being a tribute to the best maps we ever had, especially since there are some really great maps to highlight that HotS players may have never played and would probably still be solid in HotS (and I'm not thinking Steppes of War).


Well, I mean...this contest is OBVIOUSLY about putting terrible maps into the pool, lol. Else we would all just pick the obvious amazing maps...

Case in point:

Frost
Cloud Kingdom
Whirlwind

-> Round that out with other great selections...

In the end it all comes down to the poll in 8 days. I'm pretty sure we won't see that many 2010-2011 selections, if at all. And if we do...then it will prove a point, and it will never happen again!
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24227 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 22:58:48
September 16 2014 22:52 GMT
#277
I (naively ?) thought a dreampool should contain good maps. But hey, maybe YOU fantasize about ugly women in your dreams, but the women I fuck in MY dreams are gorgeous. So yeah, I want Frost, Whirlwind, Overgrowth and Bel'shir Vestige, while I shit on Daedalus Point, Steppes of War, Klontas Mire and Blistering Sands, I dig them in my feces so that I can forget they even existed.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
September 16 2014 22:54 GMT
#278
On September 17 2014 07:06 MstrJinbo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 07:04 Charoisaur wrote:
On September 17 2014 06:58 Circumstance wrote:
Golden responds to this in classic Golden fasion.

https://twitter.com/Ai_Golden/status/511940119813959680


Seriously, that map doesn't look THAT imbalanced. you can quite easily take the third once you have destroyed the rocks.
the other bases are a little harder to take but its still managable.
am i missing something or why does everyone say that map is so imbalanced.
Compared to maps like blistering sands or incineration zone the map seems extremely well balanced


To be fair, the problem with blistering sands wasn't that it was small...


Don't you want to see if player A's marine/marauder army destroys the rocks to player B's main faster than player B's ling/roach army can destroy the rocks to player A's main?
masterluna
Profile Joined October 2011
United States30 Posts
September 16 2014 22:55 GMT
#279
daybreak, cloud kingdom, whirlwind
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1913 Posts
September 16 2014 23:01 GMT
#280
Daybreak and Ohana, also Xel'Naga Caverns, Cloud Kingdom, so many good memories
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