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Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
August 22 2014 15:14 GMT
#81
On August 23 2014 00:10 Tzyx wrote:
Awesome article. and awesome thread too, sans the weird anti-korean whining. Some of the logic baffles.


People feel Blizzard should give participation ribbons to EU & NA regions instead of having to actually be good at the game
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 22 2014 15:20 GMT
#82
I'm pretty sure nobody who's vocal about wanting a region locked WCS would actually watch an NA only tournament.
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
August 22 2014 15:23 GMT
#83
if they promise to change hairstyles every round i would watch religiously
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joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
August 22 2014 15:28 GMT
#84
Awesome write up, sums up the scenes and the storylines in an exciting way!
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
August 22 2014 15:37 GMT
#85
hehe, stuchiu patiently waited 6 months to finally use his text about the revival byul game in an article.

the great thing about stuchiu articles is that he isnt just writer, but a storyteller. i like storys
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Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
August 22 2014 16:13 GMT
#86
On August 23 2014 00:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm pretty sure nobody who's vocal about wanting a region locked WCS would actually watch an NA only tournament.


You'd be wrong. I loved 2012 WCS.
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Apoteosis
Profile Joined June 2011
Chile820 Posts
August 22 2014 16:24 GMT
#87
On August 22 2014 14:25 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 14:20 ASoo wrote:
Has anybody found the Has vs. MMA VOD mentioned in the WCS:AM section?



lol this guy is devious!
Life won like 200k and didn't hire a proper criminal lawyer.
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
August 22 2014 16:28 GMT
#88
Love rubbing Major's belly gif ><
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Dapper_Cad
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom964 Posts
August 22 2014 17:04 GMT
#89
The paragraph about MVP is close to sublime.

And I'll watch those Yugioh vids for the first time soon. I always thought Slayers needed a good tombstone, I didn't know they had one.
But he is never making short-term prediction, everyone of his prediction are based on fundenmentals, but he doesn't exactly know when it will happen... So using these kind of narrowed "who-is-right" empirical analysis makes little sense.
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
August 22 2014 17:30 GMT
#90
Duckdeok great read! Really enjoyed the NA section in particular
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
August 22 2014 17:34 GMT
#91
Great read. Love articles like these.
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Drock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
August 22 2014 17:41 GMT
#92
Great article. Makes me want to follow the WCS a lot more. I've really only been watching Dreamhacks and not really caring about any of the WCS points it awards.
I kinda miss Idra...
Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
August 22 2014 17:43 GMT
#93
Why do people who say they want to see the best players play the best games support a system that separates the best players into 3 different tournaments?
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
August 22 2014 17:45 GMT
#94
On August 23 2014 01:13 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 00:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm pretty sure nobody who's vocal about wanting a region locked WCS would actually watch an NA only tournament.


You'd be wrong. I loved 2012 WCS.

Yeah, I don't get why people keep saying this. Especially since in the current wcs system NA would probably also include SEA, CN, etc. Which is easily a large enough pool of players to make sure there are interesting and high-level games.

My dream wcs 2015 would be residential region lock (so you either have to be currently living in the region or maybe just be a citizen of the region) and expand GSL to 64 or even 96 or 128 players or something, with compensation to match. With 3 or 4 wcs seasons a year there is surely enough time to get through that many players. Of course, money would be an issue. But hey, it's my dream so it can be unrealistic.
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
August 22 2014 18:05 GMT
#95
On August 22 2014 20:42 SinO[Ob] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 19:38 Psychobabas wrote:
Still disagree with allowing Koreans in NA and EU WCS.

Way to kill off potential talent and local fanbase. Everything for a quick buck though, I suppose...

Look at the state of the Live Stream viewership... lol...


Care you will be called racist cause you dont want Korean in EU or AM scene. I would love to see more of EU or NA players. But anyway ppl are too attached to Koreans :/. We have them everywhere, but still not enough for some of the community. I hope a real EU and NA league will be created,

Great article though. As usual .


Let's be real, the NA scene was on the way to the bottom before WCS AM. Maybe it could have limped on longer, but it was clearly on the way out.

What we have now is both entertaining and sustainable.

But I see that you guys are both from EU, which had a different history than AM and most likely would have kept trucking along without Korean players.

So I'll assume you guys are just remembering the glory days of NA when you say WCS AM was hurt by the influx of Koreans (seriously, Polt - Jaedong couldn't have happened anywhere else and I'm sure gave AM a huge shot in the arm).
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
August 22 2014 18:05 GMT
#96
On August 23 2014 02:43 Cheren wrote:
Why do people who say they want to see the best players play the best games support a system that separates the best players into 3 different tournaments?

Because we can watch the best players play at any time in the day. And we get to see more of them, imagine GSL with all of today's top koreans.
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-22 18:15:51
August 22 2014 18:11 GMT
#97
On August 23 2014 03:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 02:43 Cheren wrote:
Why do people who say they want to see the best players play the best games support a system that separates the best players into 3 different tournaments?

Because we can watch the best players play at any time in the day. And we get to see more of them, imagine GSL with all of today's top koreans.


Most of the top Koreans play in GSL anyway, but regardless, the system was much better with the season finals. As long as the prize pool is similar in all 3 regions you'll eventually reach an even distribution of talent, which prevents the best players from playing each other apart from Blizzcon and weekend LANs, and a lot of top KesPA players barely even go to LANs.

To be clear I'm not saying we should go back to region lock, just bring season finals back if you want to spread top players around the world.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 22 2014 18:22 GMT
#98
On August 23 2014 02:45 Darthsanta13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 01:13 Fanatic-Templar wrote:
On August 23 2014 00:20 DarkLordOlli wrote:
I'm pretty sure nobody who's vocal about wanting a region locked WCS would actually watch an NA only tournament.


You'd be wrong. I loved 2012 WCS.

Yeah, I don't get why people keep saying this. Especially since in the current wcs system NA would probably also include SEA, CN, etc. Which is easily a large enough pool of players to make sure there are interesting and high-level games.

My dream wcs 2015 would be residential region lock (so you either have to be currently living in the region or maybe just be a citizen of the region) and expand GSL to 64 or even 96 or 128 players or something, with compensation to match. With 3 or 4 wcs seasons a year there is surely enough time to get through that many players. Of course, money would be an issue. But hey, it's my dream so it can be unrealistic.

A fourth region in China/Taiwan would be good too.
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OveRtheStarS
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada69 Posts
August 22 2014 18:25 GMT
#99
That QXC picture made the entire article for me.
If everyone loves you, you're not doing it right.
RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
August 22 2014 19:11 GMT
#100
ppl that think wcs am gets ruined by the influx of nonamerican players are delusional

I guess the american players that are still present in the league are miles better than their counterparts from a few years ago. I remember the old times when HuK and co used to complain that practicing on NA was impossible. I guess those times are over.

Great article. I'm really curious if there will ever be somebody outstanding enough to take mvp's place.
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