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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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TheSayo182
Italy243 Posts
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SinO[Ob]
France898 Posts
On August 22 2014 21:21 StarStruck wrote: was. he sure as heck isn't one now. It wouldn't change the viewership. The myths. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8028950/TL/WCS 2013 05.png Plz. | ||
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
On August 22 2014 20:42 SinO[Ob] wrote: Care you will be called racist cause you dont want Korean in EU or AM scene. I would love to see more of EU or NA players. But anyway ppl are too attached to Koreans :/. We have them everywhere, but still not enough for some of the community. I hope a real EU and NA league will be created, Great article though. As usual  .I will admit that it was fucking awesome to be in the GSL Qualifiers threads talking about all the foreigners who were playing, or watching Jinro vs Idra in the Ro8 of GSL, or watching Jinro get two Ro4s back to back, but those days are gone. If we were to not allow Koreans to play in WCS EU/NA then we would have foreigners vs foreigners all the time, reducing the quality of the games. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
Mvp is still the king, waiting for FlaSh to dethrone him . | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 22 2014 21:29 SinO[Ob] wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8028950/TL/WCS 2013 05.png Plz. Static. Once again the myths. On August 22 2014 21:31 NexUmbra wrote: I will admit that it was fucking awesome to be in the GSL Qualifiers threads talking about all the foreigners who were playing, or watching Jinro vs Idra in the Ro8 of GSL, or watching Jinro get two Ro4s back to back, but those days are gone. If we were to not allow Koreans to play in WCS EU/NA then we would have foreigners vs foreigners all the time, reducing the quality of the games. The whole Jonathan versus Greg thing had more to do with the fact that the game was still fresh. The bubble was going to eventually pop with your mlgs and everything else. | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France898 Posts
On August 22 2014 21:31 NexUmbra wrote: I will admit that it was fucking awesome to be in the GSL Qualifiers threads talking about all the foreigners who were playing, or watching Jinro vs Idra in the Ro8 of GSL, or watching Jinro get two Ro4s back to back, but those days are gone. If we were to not allow Koreans to play in WCS EU/NA then we would have foreigners vs foreigners all the time, reducing the quality of the games. How can foreigner players can be confident with that kind of community? "You know we love you but youre terrible at this game so plz let korean make the show." We have koreans at every tournaments possible even little ones. And youre right some of them are incredible to watch. But first not all koreans, and second I take as much pleasure to see a Mana vs Bunny as a MMA vs MC. They are all good! But no brood war days have made this community ellitist. Give a chance to foreigners. They work as much as koreans. They deserve it! | ||
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Xoronius
Germany6362 Posts
I think, this was about Nesteas physical presence. He is pretty huge. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 22 2014 21:40 SinO[Ob] wrote: How can foreigner players can be confident with that kind of community? "You know we love you but youre terrible at this game so plz let korean make the show." We have koreans at every tournaments possible even little ones. And youre right some of them are incredible to watch. But first not all koreans, and second I take as much pleasure to see a Mana vs Bunny as a MMA vs MC. They are all good! But no brood war days have made this community ellitist. Give a chance to foreigners. They work as much as koreans. They deserve it! It's what we dealt with during all those BW years? TeamLiquid thrived on the fact that there could be two communities. We had a good combo of both lmao. How else you think this community could live on back then!?!?! | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France898 Posts
On August 22 2014 21:44 StarStruck wrote: It's what we dealt with during all those BW years? TeamLiquid thrived on the fact that there could be two communities. We had a good combo of both lmao. How else you think this community could live on back then!?!?! Im not sure to undertsand what you say. So sorry if my answer is wrong. its like you need to pay back something to koreans, cause they are good at this game. They have a lot of exposure in every major tounrament. I dont see why foreigner could not have 1, not 15, just 1 MAJOR tournament (meaning with a good cashprize, and exposure) for them to show us what they can do. I will thx koreans everytime to make Esport getting so big by their skills, but they are not alone on this planet to enjoy this game or make it enjoyable to watch. (Nationwars, plz!) | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On August 22 2014 21:15 Boucot wrote: Amazing article, congrats Stuchiu. There is just a sentence I don't understand : Where do you get that from ? I probably meant Welmu. But that still makes no sense since he only got 3. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 22 2014 21:40 SinO[Ob] wrote: How can foreigner players can be confident with that kind of community? "You know we love you but youre terrible at this game so plz let korean make the show." We have koreans at every tournaments possible even little ones. And youre right some of them are incredible to watch. But first not all koreans, and second I take as much pleasure to see a Mana vs Bunny as a MMA vs MC. They are all good! But no brood war days have made this community ellitist. Give a chance to foreigners. They work as much as koreans. They deserve it! Foreigners have had plenty of chances. It isn't a coincidence that Naniwa and Scarlett - both of whom went to Korea for extended amounts of time - rank among the best foreigners of all time and among the only ones to reliably beat Korean players. Some may work as hard, but that isn't the norm and the fact that you think your average Adonminus works as hard as someone like sOs tell me you might not know what you're talking about. | ||
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
On August 22 2014 23:05 Zealously wrote: Foreigners have had plenty of chances. It isn't a coincidence that Naniwa and Scarlett - both of whom went to Korea for extended amounts of time - rank among the best foreigners of all time and among the only ones to reliably beat Korean players. Some may work as hard, but that isn't the norm and the fact that you think your average Adonminus works as hard as someone like sOs tell me you might not know what you're talking about. And it has been obvious in some foreigner tournaments with no-shows, forfeits, and insentient complaining that they aren't working as hard as the Koreans. Plus I don't buy the 'they work hard they deserve it' argument either. You deserve it when you beat everyone else and win - not because you worked hard. | ||
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SinO[Ob]
France898 Posts
On August 22 2014 23:05 Zealously wrote: Foreigners have had plenty of chances. It isn't a coincidence that Naniwa and Scarlett - both of whom went to Korea for extended amounts of time - rank among the best foreigners of all time and among the only ones to reliably beat Korean players. Some may work as hard, but that isn't the norm and the fact that you think your average Adonminus works as hard as someone like sOs tell me you might not know what you're talking about. "Plenty of chances" tell me when please, cause if we didnt had a stephano or nani or scarlett, SC2 would have even more dead. Cause of this 'We need koreans to make this game interesting". And plz you compare sOs to adominus, that comparison :/. Proleague player with crazy team and environnement to pratice with the bests. Adominus a player who try to make a name in WCS EU in Cascade gaming . And Im sure he has not the same environnement to practice. And now tell me that a mana/scarlett/Vortix dont work as hard as a MMA/MC/Stardust. But yea Im the one who dont know what Im talking about. | ||
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Zoure
Canada23 Posts
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Tenks
United States3104 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 22 2014 23:18 SinO[Ob] wrote: "Plenty of chances" tell me when please, cause if we didnt had a stephano or nani or scarlett, SC2 would have even more dead. Cause of this 'We need koreans to make this game interesting". And plz you compare sOs to adominus, that comparison :/. Proleague player with crazy team and environnement to pratice with the bests. Adominus a player who try to make a name in WCS EU. And Im sure he got the same environnement to practice. And now tell me that a mana/scarlett/Vortix dont work as hard as a MMA/MC/Stardust. But yea Im the one who dont know what Im talking about. Dreamhacks, ROGs, MLGs and IPLs (should probably mention that there were a bunch of online cups and invitationals available for foreign players up to at least 2012) were all virtually foreigner-exclusive until mid-2011, so we could start there. Then there are of course all of the WCS tournaments in 2012 that catered not only to foreigners but to foreigners from several different countries. Then there are the tournaments that various community figures have organized exclusively for foreigners (TotalBiscuit's Shoutcraft America comes to mind), but do you know what the problem was with those tournaments? Typically, they were plagued by walkovers, forfeits (some mid-series), disinterest and low interest. On the contrary, TB's Shoutcraft Invitational featured 8 of the world's best players and was the perhaps most successful online event of all time. I could also compare Adonminus to hyvaa, Bunny, Sleep, Billowy, Hack, Pigbaby, Trend, Sacsri, Bravo, Hush or Hurricane. I would bet a month's worth of money (if I had any income to speak of...) that all of them work harder than Adonminus. This is not me bashing him, by the way, this is me simply stating the fact that even the Korean players that have struggled for years to make a dent in Korean tournaments on average practice harder and more than foreign players. You didn't say "the top 4 foreign players work as hard as mid-tier Koreans" (which I would also dispute), you simply made a sweeping statement claiming that foreigners, overall, work just as hard as Koreans. And that simply isn't true. I would also be interested in your opinion on why the interest in WCS AM has been growing recently. As far as I can tell, there hasn't been a huge influx of foreign players, yet the league seems to finally be gaining popularity (despite being jokingly called WCS KR 2). I remain unconvinced that you know what you're talking about. | ||
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Psychobabas
2531 Posts
On August 22 2014 20:42 SinO[Ob] wrote: Care you will be called racist cause you dont want Korean in EU or AM scene. I would love to see more of EU or NA players. But anyway ppl are too attached to Koreans :/. We have them everywhere, but still not enough for some of the community. I hope a real EU and NA league will be created, Great article though. As usual .No I don't care. | ||
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Cazimirbzh
334 Posts
Flash was only good in BW because Terran was OP you will burn in hell for this sentence... when God learns english :p | ||
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Tzyx
Northern Ireland281 Posts
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