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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On August 22 2014 14:40 Zealously wrote: Flash was only good in BW because Terran was OP That's hard to proof - statistics suggest that it was fairly balanced and terrans were OP more in times of oov, not in times of Flash. | ||
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Lappen.464
Germany42 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 25 2014 20:18 nimdil wrote: That's hard to proof - statistics suggest that it was fairly balanced and terrans were OP more in times of oov, not in times of Flash. I don't actually believe that, I was making a statement I find just as absurd as the statement I was replying to | ||
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:26 Zealously wrote: I don't actually believe that, I was making a statement I find just as absurd as the statement I was replying to Ah, I apparently was irony impaired. Hopefully temporarily. | ||
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paddyz
Ireland628 Posts
Articles like this keep reminding me why this is my most visited site and the first bookmark on my list for 4 years now. Thank you stuchiu, thank you TL! On a side note I feel like the bad guy thinking back that I was up for Squirtle, Bomber & MKP vs MVP in finals and up for MC vs Duckdeok. Im glad for stork, sorry for Yugioh and miss the days of when I gave a shit about most of the most successful Koreans like MVP, Nestea and MKP. Innovation and crew almost killed my love for watching SC2, but its back with a vengeance! | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
I'd imagine it always going something like Game 1:  Flash > MvpFlash reads Mvp like a book, using star-sense, and maphack mode to catch every little thing Mvp is doing, completely countering Mvp's strategy through smart scouting, and using a strong timing attack where Mvp is rendered useless. *Mvp proceeds to take off his jacket* Flash 1 Mvp: 0Game 2: Mvp > FlashGame 2: Mvp bringing forth a never before seen TvT strategy in HoTS catching completely off guard, catching Flash, all the players and especially by audience by surprise and barely scraping through Flash's last defense lines and decisively taking game 2 *Flash proceeds to drink Pocari Sweat* Flash: 1 Mvp: 1Game 3: Flash > MvpGame 3: Mvp challenges Flash to a Marine/Tank macro battle. Game goes to 4-5 bases for each player, but Flash slowly outpositions, out-macros and backs off Mvp into a corner. Mvp has no wriggle room and forced to gg *Mvp proceeds to take off his cap* Flash: 2 Mvp: 1Game 4: Mvp > FlashGame 4: Mvp goes on to do an ancient WoL strategy that is still viable in HoTS due to the meta never thought of by a player. Flash is caught with his pants down as he predicted a macro game based on his scouting and being overly greedy. He is wiped out quickly *Flash takes out his ruler to recheck his dimensions* Flash: 2 Mvp: 2Game 5: Flash > MvpGame 5: Flash challenges Mvp to a mech vs mech macro game. Mvp is outplayed severely in dropship player/positional player and micro/macro after multiple exchanges. Audience wonders if Mvp can even scratch Flash in a macro game. *Mvp mouth opens* Flash: 3 Mvp: 2Game 6: Mvp > FlashGame 6: Mvp proceeds to challenge Flash to mech vs mech, but brings out his trump card: battlecruisers. Mvp outplays Flash with terran air and after another slug fest, takes a decisive, Game 6. *Flash eyes twitches* and *Mvp's mouth remains wide open* Flash: 3 Mvp: 3Game 7: Flash 2 rax all-in's, Mvp barely defends. Flash sends hoards and hoards of army on Mvp's turtle position where he barely holds on each time in Marine/Tank composition. Mvp proceeds to counter and switches to bio composition, where Flash then switches over to mech, and now he holds on with his patented, turtle terran. Mvp attempts to transition into Mvp, but Flash suffocates him with his mech army and proceeds to parade push him and Mvp leaves the studio. Flash > MvpFlash: 4 Mvp:3Flash, the macro player, who just outplays his opponents in all aspects of the game. God of StarcraftAnd Mvp, the innovator. The King of Wings.The story: In the innocent land of Bw, heroes came and gone. then it was ruled by evil and the world of starcraft was corrupted. Suddenly, a divine came. He brought salvation. He laid the groundwork of how beautiful the land could be. he ruled the lands and then just as he suddenly appeared, he disappeared, but was replaced by a lovable King, revered by many. Years past and the king suffered health problems, and slowly grew of age, and as prophecy told God was to appear in two years. The prophecy was fulfilled, the king bowed down and dethroned and God took his rightful place. *shrugs* I have to too much free time on my hands. | ||
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KimJongIlJr
Korea (North)61 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52797 Posts
On August 27 2014 10:27 LighT. wrote: You know, as one of the biggest fan boys of both Flash and Mvp, I would sacrafice whatever is on my schedule and pay whatever is necessary to watch them in a Bo7 with something significant (WCS title) on the line. I'd imagine it always going something like As another huge fan of both players, I imagined it being something like: Flash takes the first 3 games in glorious, standard macro TvT with perfect positioning. Mvp takes the next three with genius strategies, tactics, outsmarting Flash just enough to edge him out in non-standard macro games. Game 7 is a 45 minute macro game on one of the hugest maps in the pool, featuring nukes and battlecruisers, and then the players base trade, leaving most of the map in rubble as they attempt to take a few bases at the corners that haven't been mined out. Eventually Flash takes a decisive edge, but Mvp launches a nuke at the edge of a cliff, and Flash's army walks under it and, since he doesn't see the nuke, the nuke lands on the entire army and Mvp wins 4-3. | ||
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GiveMeCake
148 Posts
On August 27 2014 11:58 The_Templar wrote: As another huge fan of both players, I imagined it being something like: Flash takes the first 3 games in glorious, standard macro TvT with perfect positioning. Mvp takes the next three with genius strategies, tactics, outsmarting Flash just enough to edge him out in non-standard macro games. Game 7 is a 45 minute macro game on one of the hugest maps in the pool, featuring nukes and battlecruisers, and then the players base trade, leaving most of the map in rubble as they attempt to take a few bases at the corners that haven't been mined out. Eventually Flash takes a decisive edge, but Mvp launches a nuke at the edge of a cliff, and Flash's army walks under it and, since he doesn't see the nuke, the nuke lands on the entire army and Mvp wins 4-3. Flash walking under a nuke? What alternate reality is this? | ||
lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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klipik12
United States241 Posts
On August 27 2014 12:07 lichter wrote: it'll probably be both players 2raxing on a 4 player map, diagonal spawn. they scout each other and realize they are both 2raxing. mvp doesnt build the orbital command and lets a few scvs ride the cc into another base, while all of flash's scvs die. they fight in the middle of the map with only marines, and flash wins the battle with 1 2hp marine left. flash floats his orbital and 2raxes to the opposite horizontal base and mvp does the same. mvp unloads the scvs and builds his orbital, flash starts building scvs. flash goes cc first, mvp 2raxes again. mvp wins. What happened to the barracks from the first 2raxes? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25771 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On August 22 2014 21:52 SinO[Ob] wrote: Im not sure to undertsand what you say. So sorry if my answer is wrong. its like you need to pay back something to koreans, cause they are good at this game. They have a lot of exposure in every major tounrament. I dont see why foreigner could not have 1, not 15, just 1 MAJOR tournament (meaning with a good cashprize, and exposure) for them to show us what they can do. I will thx koreans everytime to make Esport getting so big by their skills, but they are not alone on this planet to enjoy this game or make it enjoyable to watch. (Nationwars, plz!) I'm talking about the very existence of this website, which was Brood War. You had the pro gamers in Korea and you had the foreigner community as well. We co-existed and this whole topic of major tournaments is silly with everything that goes on nowadays. It's in a much better place than what it was in the BW days. Nothing wrong with nation wars (another thing we had way back when). In fact, how do you think those guys came up with it in the first place? We've been asking for it to come back for some time. | ||
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On August 27 2014 21:21 klipik12 wrote: What happened to the barracks from the first 2raxes? flash doesn't build marines with his raxes, only scvs because he loses all of them and then goes cc first with no marines. mvp jukes with his raxes and floats to flash's third. On August 27 2014 21:24 Xiphos wrote: I'd still favor Flash over MVP for sure just based upon the past encounter between them, mvp will be a nerve wreak going against Flash knowing their past one sideness. mvp has no nerves in sc2 literally and figuratively  | ||
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Sh1bby
Germany711 Posts
Mvp owning everyone was amazing to watch - overall the prime of (LG)IM was unbelievable. Especially Mvp's Mech was beautiful to see. On one hand I really miss the old days, but on the other it's amazing to see that the GSL is getting harder every year - Ro16 this year is sooooo stacked! Regarding Mvp vs Flash: I love Mvp, but at the moment he would most likely get owned pretty hard by Flash. Flash is on fire and Mvp is sadly way past his prime. | ||
Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On August 27 2014 10:27 LighT. wrote: + Show Spoiler + You know, as one of the biggest fan boys of both Flash and Mvp, I would sacrafice whatever is on my schedule and pay whatever is necessary to watch them in a Bo7 with something significant (WCS title) on the line. I'd imagine it always going something like Game 1: Flash > MvpFlash reads Mvp like a book, using star-sense, and maphack mode to catch every little thing Mvp is doing, completely countering Mvp's strategy through smart scouting, and using a strong timing attack where Mvp is rendered useless. *Mvp proceeds to take off his jacket* Flash 1 Mvp: 0Game 2: Mvp > FlashGame 2: Mvp bringing forth a never before seen TvT strategy in HoTS catching completely off guard, catching Flash, all the players and especially by audience by surprise and barely scraping through Flash's last defense lines and decisively taking game 2 *Flash proceeds to drink Pocari Sweat* Flash: 1 Mvp: 1Game 3: Flash > MvpGame 3: Mvp challenges Flash to a Marine/Tank macro battle. Game goes to 4-5 bases for each player, but Flash slowly outpositions, out-macros and backs off Mvp into a corner. Mvp has no wriggle room and forced to gg *Mvp proceeds to take off his cap* Flash: 2 Mvp: 1Game 4: Mvp > FlashGame 4: Mvp goes on to do an ancient WoL strategy that is still viable in HoTS due to the meta never thought of by a player. Flash is caught with his pants down as he predicted a macro game based on his scouting and being overly greedy. He is wiped out quickly *Flash takes out his ruler to recheck his dimensions* Flash: 2 Mvp: 2Game 5: Flash > MvpGame 5: Flash challenges Mvp to a mech vs mech macro game. Mvp is outplayed severely in dropship player/positional player and micro/macro after multiple exchanges. Audience wonders if Mvp can even scratch Flash in a macro game. *Mvp mouth opens* Flash: 3 Mvp: 2Game 6: Mvp > FlashGame 6: Mvp proceeds to challenge Flash to mech vs mech, but brings out his trump card: battlecruisers. Mvp outplays Flash with terran air and after another slug fest, takes a decisive, Game 6. *Flash eyes twitches* and *Mvp's mouth remains wide open* Flash: 3 Mvp: 3Game 7: Flash 2 rax all-in's, Mvp barely defends. Flash sends hoards and hoards of army on Mvp's turtle position where he barely holds on each time in Marine/Tank composition. Mvp proceeds to counter and switches to bio composition, where Flash then switches over to mech, and now he holds on with his patented, turtle terran. Mvp attempts to transition into Mvp, but Flash suffocates him with his mech army and proceeds to parade push him and Mvp leaves the studio. Flash > MvpFlash: 4 Mvp:3Flash, the macro player, who just outplays his opponents in all aspects of the game. God of StarcraftAnd Mvp, the innovator. The King of Wings.The story: In the innocent land of Bw, heroes came and gone. then it was ruled by evil and the world of starcraft was corrupted. Suddenly, a divine came. He brought salvation. He laid the groundwork of how beautiful the land could be. he ruled the lands and then just as he suddenly appeared, he disappeared, but was replaced by a lovable King, revered by many. Years past and the king suffered health problems, and slowly grew of age, and as prophecy told God was to appear in two years. The prophecy was fulfilled, the king bowed down and dethroned and God took his rightful place. *shrugs* I have to too much free time on my hands. I like when you don't know what to do, I had chills reading your little fiction! | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13985 Posts
[QUOTE]On August 22 2014 12:14 stuchiu wrote: Yes, Soulkey, Dear, Zest, and Classic are incredible players that fully deserve the admiration and applause that comes with a championship. But inevitably they feel lacking because all GSL champions must stand in the shadow of one man. ALL GSL champions? maybe not fore Nestea as much as others cuz he won 3 GSL's?[/QUOTE] and MC...but what i really want to know is if you put Life Stephano DRG Soulkey INnoVation Nestea MC Polt Mvp MMA sOs Naniwa Rain and Taeja all in the same group, a round robin where by some miracle all of them are playing their absolute best ever starcraft, who wins? | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On August 30 2014 08:43 Cricketer12 wrote: and MC...but what i really want to know is if you put Life Stephano DRG Soulkey INnoVation Nestea MC Polt Mvp MMA sOs Naniwa Rain and Taeja all in the same group, a round robin where by some miracle all of them are playing their absolute best ever starcraft, who wins? Sniper | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13985 Posts
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