For those of you who don't already know what this is about: I'm gathering various data (viewers, game, events, etc.) from all the streams that are presented on teamliquid.net (those that you can in the sidebar to your right) and use that data to produce the pretty tables and graphs you see below. The tables only contain SC2 players (that is, streams of people playing games of Starcraft 2) and not casters, teams or other streams. The tables also only contain Starcraft 2 related activities. So, for instance when CatZ is streaming Dota2, it will not be taken into account.
The data I gather is then turned into the tables you see below. One is sorted by the average viewers, the other is sorted by the average viewers times the hours streamed. The latter table favors those that stream a lot, while the former table favors popular streamers regardless of how much they stream. Either ranking has its advantages and disadvantages, and thus I present both.
For either table, I have a minimum required stream time of 5 hours to be included in the list.
The list
Due to space limitations, I have to shorten the headers and leave some data out of the tables presented here. You can get the full tables from the links below. The headers aren't as clear as I'd like them to be thanks to this, so here's a quick explanation, just in case: "Viewers" denotes the average viewers in the given month. "Hours" are the hours played. "Place diff" and "Viewer diff" are the place and viewer differences compared to last month.
Also, the HTML version linked beneath the images has some more information that I had to leave out due to space limitation, most notably the featured status of the players.
Now, Without further ado, here's this month's tables:
Congratulations, Apollo, for narrowly stealing the #1 spot in the average viewer category from Winter. Apollo streamed just a few hours before and after the vs. MC showmatch, but that was enough to slightly edge out on the average viewer count.
Winter remains the undisputed champion in the viewers*hours category, however. Lots of average viewers plus a ton of streaming hours does that to you.
The reign of teamless players continues this month too, with 4 out of the top 5 of each list not being on any team.
Stephano and Jaedong lost a good amount of viewers this month, over 900 and 700, respectively. Neither streamed a whole lot, though, so there's not a whole lot to read into this.
Notable streamers who made it to last month's list, but did not make it this month or who did not stream at all: MMA, Innovation, Hero, Snute, Center, Kangho, qxc, Symbol, Ret, Mvp.
If you find any mistakes or errors in the lists, please do let me know, especially concerning team changes or players that you are absolutely sure should be on the lists, but are not.
The big picture
(The actual numbers are not important, it's the ratio between month that's important.)
Note that these are player streams only.
Not a whole lot to say. Player stream viewers have been largely stable in the past few month, though not at a very high level.
As I said last time, I'm going to retire the other graph that shows all stream viewer numbers, since there are premier events now of which I do not have the numbers (MLG).
WCS/GSL
Another WCS season has ended. The numbers haven't been as good as the one of the previous seasons, but they're still quite respectable. It also looks like WCS America and Europe are slowly getting closer in terms of viewership.
Proleague & ATC
That's all for this month. Hope you guys enjoyed, as always. Any kind of feedback is always welcome!
Just the other day, I found myself wondering what had happened to Kaitlyn, and now I see that she's in the top 20 of total viewer hours. I guess she never left, and I just wasn't digging deep enough.
On August 05 2014 05:10 Dingodile wrote: Well Grubby has now 4100 viewers, already better than his july-peak
I dont understand how you can have an average by ~2300 and peak is 4600 within 6,5h stream (Apollo). sounds like a crazy/instable curve.
He was streaming a bit before the Stephano vs. MC showmatch, which got ~5000 viewers on average. I checked his VODs on twitch, and he really did stream some ladder games for 2 hours before the showmatch began. Once it did begin, the viewers went up further, but those numbers are not included in the charts.
I did a short look on older entries. I noticed 2 things about Stephano ^.^ 1. Viewers (top5 streamers) were bigger in general when he was on Millenium. Since he joined EG, he himself was the biggest suffer, then his "new" teammates. March 2013 (month of HotS Release) is the one exception. Everyone lost many Viewers, Stephano nearly double. 2. After Stephano quitted sc2, everyone (top5 streamers again) Lost >2000 Viewers.
On August 05 2014 04:41 TrumpetWilli wrote: I wonder if Honor will make it onto the "featured streams" list anytime
I think you need 1000 viewers for that (which is unreachable for any non-english stream), or qualification to a major event.
Oh really? I only wondered exactly because there are couple of streamers featured which never reach 1000 viewers like Iaguz or Journey.
Otherwise I know most of the streams which now have under 1000 viewers pretty easily could have had more than that in WoL times.
Here's the thread for the current featured streamer policy on TL. You either need a bunch of viewers (>1000, I'd say), or you need to be in WCS or get far in a premier tournament to be featured.
On August 05 2014 21:54 desRow wrote: MLG was a one time thing and shoutcraft clanwar is on break, can you bring back the other graph please Conti <3 :D :D :D ?!?!
I'm still on the fence about it. Are there any news on whether there'll be more SC2 MLGs?
On August 05 2014 04:36 Pontius Pirate wrote: Just the other day, I found myself wondering what had happened to Kaitlyn, and now I see that she's in the top 20 of total viewer hours. I guess she never left, and I just wasn't digging deep enough.
ohi ! last month (june) i was rank 30 or so for the first list but i didn't stream much as i spent the entire month in california~ i'm back home now though!
thanks as always conti for these stats! also is it just me or has my race icon not been working for a couple months?
On August 06 2014 00:07 Dingodile wrote: Liquid'Amaz has 28k viewers right now (Hearthstone player) Only Trump can have more I think.
iG.ChuaN has 99k right now (Dota player). Never seen so much oO
Highest in sc2 was IdrA or Stephano with ~22k viewers.
Strrzming has grown in a lot since SC2 peak. We had the biggest numbers in 2011. We're 3 years later. Which is why people saying stable numbers are okay are kind of delusional.
On August 05 2014 04:36 Pontius Pirate wrote: Just the other day, I found myself wondering what had happened to Kaitlyn, and now I see that she's in the top 20 of total viewer hours. I guess she never left, and I just wasn't digging deep enough.
ohi ! last month (june) i was rank 30 or so for the first list but i didn't stream much as i spent the entire month in california~ i'm back home now though!
thanks as always conti for these stats! also is it just me or has my race icon not been working for a couple months?
The race icon is based on whatever race is set in the teamliquid stream interface. If one race is set, my script takes that, if all three are set, it uses random. If two or none are set, it's empty. I should get around fixing that sometime to just display the two chosen races. So my guess is that you have two races set.
A lot of quality streamers seem to go on azubu now and get absolutely terrible numbers. Like artosis getting below 200, on twitch he is pretty much guaranteed a couple of thousand viewers (depending what he is doing of course). Do they get paid extra to stream on azubu? If not it seems like they are throwing away a ton of viewers.
On August 06 2014 16:35 ElBlanco wrote: A lot of quality streamers seem to go on azubu now and get absolutely terrible numbers. Like artosis getting below 200, on twitch he is pretty much guaranteed a couple of thousand viewers (depending what he is doing of course). Do they get paid extra to stream on azubu? If not it seems like they are throwing away a ton of viewers.
The numbers shown on TL for azubu streams are not correct, I believe. The other day Artosis was listed with about 200 on TL, but had actually several thousand viewers on azubu.
On August 06 2014 16:35 ElBlanco wrote: A lot of quality streamers seem to go on azubu now and get absolutely terrible numbers. Like artosis getting below 200, on twitch he is pretty much guaranteed a couple of thousand viewers (depending what he is doing of course). Do they get paid extra to stream on azubu? If not it seems like they are throwing away a ton of viewers.
The numbers shown on TL for azubu streams are not correct, I believe. The other day Artosis was listed with about 200 on TL, but had actually several thousand viewers on azubu.
It may count only TL viewers ? And since 90% of people use adblock and you can"t watch azubu with it, I guess they don't get a lot of viewers.
On August 06 2014 16:35 ElBlanco wrote: A lot of quality streamers seem to go on azubu now and get absolutely terrible numbers. Like artosis getting below 200, on twitch he is pretty much guaranteed a couple of thousand viewers (depending what he is doing of course). Do they get paid extra to stream on azubu? If not it seems like they are throwing away a ton of viewers.
The numbers shown on TL for azubu streams are not correct, I believe. The other day Artosis was listed with about 200 on TL, but had actually several thousand viewers on azubu.
All of artosis numbers on Azubu have been below 300, I have watched every single one of his streams in the past few months, He reached high numbers for like 1 session only. 200 seems about right.
On August 06 2014 16:35 ElBlanco wrote: A lot of quality streamers seem to go on azubu now and get absolutely terrible numbers. Like artosis getting below 200, on twitch he is pretty much guaranteed a couple of thousand viewers (depending what he is doing of course). Do they get paid extra to stream on azubu? If not it seems like they are throwing away a ton of viewers.
A lot of big name streamers have switched to Azubu. You can make your own guesses as to why, considering that it was clear from the beginning that their viewership would go down dramatically if they moved away from twitch. So yes, getting monetary incentives to switch/stream on Azubu seems like a very reasonable assumption.
Not quite sure where to put this, so instead of creating a new topic for this I'll just put it here: Unfortunately, this month's edition will have to be cancelled due to me being stupid. I lost about half a month's worth of data due to a programming error which, in combination with an API change at twitch, led to said data not being collected properly.
It wouldn't be fair to create the usual rankings with half the data missing, so I am going to skip this month's edition. Next month everything should be back to normal, though. In the meantime, fuzic seems to be up and working again, so you can check out (your) current viewership numbers there.
On September 09 2014 21:12 Conti wrote: Not quite sure where to put this, so instead of creating a new topic for this I'll just put it here: Unfortunately, this month's edition will have to be cancelled due to me being stupid. I lost about half a month's worth of data due to a programming error which, in combination with an API change at twitch, led to said data not being collected properly.
It wouldn't be fair to create the usual rankings with half the data missing, so I am going to skip this month's edition. Next month everything should be back to normal, though. In the meantime, fuzic seems to be up and working again, so you can check out (your) current viewership numbers there.
If I can help you with the data somehow, let me know - I could maybe export it from the fuzic database?
By the way, what kind of API change? I hope I didn't miss something that'd make my site crash in a few days
On September 09 2014 21:12 Conti wrote: Not quite sure where to put this, so instead of creating a new topic for this I'll just put it here: Unfortunately, this month's edition will have to be cancelled due to me being stupid. I lost about half a month's worth of data due to a programming error which, in combination with an API change at twitch, led to said data not being collected properly.
It wouldn't be fair to create the usual rankings with half the data missing, so I am going to skip this month's edition. Next month everything should be back to normal, though. In the meantime, fuzic seems to be up and working again, so you can check out (your) current viewership numbers there.
If I can help you with the data somehow, let me know - I could maybe export it from the fuzic database?
By the way, what kind of API change? I hope I didn't miss something that'd make my site crash in a few days
I've sent you a PM. Maybe we can work something out.
EPT
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