On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate.
I like to banter with Prime fans as much as the next guy but this is a little extreme… why do you hate Maru and MarineKing so much?
I have nothing against prime. Or nothing directly against prime at least. Originally when I first watched creator play I became his fan, and was a fan of Byun as well. Originally I was neutral towards Maru as well, when he was a mediocre player. Lets us travel back to the very beginning of SC2 and the legendary game of MKP vs Kyrix. With MKP you had a player who, in my opinion, played a dumb risky style with no longevity, but it was exciting as hell and introduced marine splits to the world. At the time I said it was exciting, but the way he played was not solid and would not last. So MKP went through his entire career finding one annoying play style after another that only works for a short time because it isn't figured out. Mass marine vs banes, marine/scv allins, that base trade crap he used to do, pure bio vs mech, mass thor/marine, and so on. I hate everything about his play style and I hate that he didn't disappear like the rest of the crap terrains from that era like BitByBit, Hyperdub, Maka, Ensnare, etc by constantly reinventing himself. I predicted he would disappear way back then and his continued presents in the scene annoys me greatly. Maru is a slightly more solid version of what MKP is and was but is still primarily the same sort of player who uses horrible styles that only work in the short term and wins entirely based on micro. That mass bio swarm with no ghosts or vikings vs protoss he was doing for awhile is such crap it is offensive. My hate for MKP expanded to ruin prime, creator, byun, Polt, Maru, etc. I fully admit my dislike of MKP and Maru is very subjective and largely based on petty reasons that should have no sway in more serious areas of thought. But with that said I believe in rooting for and against people in the scene. I have people I root for heavily and people I root against heavily, and people down a spectrum in between. MKP and Maru are just on the extreme rooting against side, with people like Flash on the extreme rooting for side. This post is long.
Wow, truly the end of an era! I thought MKP would go down with the ship and I thought MKP started streaming the other day so Prime could eat after the whole Tt esports debalce. However, I do hope he does find a foreign team that will send him to foreign tourneys because as an MKP fan it was pretty rough just seeing him only in PL. Maybe he can join GEM and live in europe.
He deserves a good team now after how loyal and supportive he was to prime and he's truly one of the icons of sc2. Win or lose, MKP is the most exciting player for me to watch. He could drive his fans mad with his yolo plays, but that's also part of his charm. He'll probably never return to his past glory, but it would be really great to see him at some foreign tourneys before he retires.
Oh man I hope he finds a better team and goes to foreign events and stuff. That would be awesome. But I will forever say "MKP" when talking to friends. So that's going to get confusing. Lol.
On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate.
I like to banter with Prime fans as much as the next guy but this is a little extreme… why do you hate Maru and MarineKing so much?
I have nothing against prime. Or nothing directly against prime at least. Originally when I first watched creator play I became his fan, and was a fan of Byun as well. Originally I was neutral towards Maru as well, when he was a mediocre player. Lets us travel back to the very beginning of SC2 and the legendary game of MKP vs Kyrix. With MKP you had a player who, in my opinion, played a dumb risky style with no longevity, but it was exciting as hell and introduced marine splits to the world. At the time I said it was exciting, but the way he played was not solid and would not last. So MKP went through his entire career finding one annoying play style after another that only works for a short time because it isn't figured out. Mass marine vs banes, marine/scv allins, that base trade crap he used to do, pure bio vs mech, mass thor/marine, and so on. I hate everything about his play style and I hate that he didn't disappear like the rest of the crap terrains from that era like BitByBit, Hyperdub, Maka, Ensnare, etc by constantly reinventing himself. I predicted he would disappear way back then and his continued presents in the scene annoys me greatly. Maru is a slightly more solid version of what MKP is and was but is still primarily the same sort of player who uses horrible styles that only work in the short term and wins entirely based on micro. That mass bio swarm with no ghosts or vikings vs protoss he was doing for awhile is such crap it is offensive. My hate for MKP expanded to ruin prime, creator, byun, Polt, Maru, etc. I fully admit my dislike of MKP and Maru is very subjective and largely based on petty reasons that should have no sway in more serious areas of thought. But with that said I believe in rooting for and against people in the scene. I have people I root for heavily and people I root against heavily, and people down a spectrum in between. MKP and Maru are just on the extreme rooting against side, with people like Flash on the extreme rooting for side. This post is long.
I'm a fan of Flash's champion (albeit stubborn) mindset too, but to be fair, Maru isn't the one-trick pony that MKP is.
On August 02 2014 00:59 Skynx wrote: Wow all these free agents: MK(P), Mvp, Nestea, MC, DRG (probably) 16 GSL finals appearances altogether...
MC confirmed to have been contracted by KR gov't to establish a low-cost, all-KR team composed of eSF rejects with the sole purpose of farming $$$ in foreign tournaments.
On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate.
I like to banter with Prime fans as much as the next guy but this is a little extreme… why do you hate Maru and MarineKing so much?
I have nothing against prime. Or nothing directly against prime at least. Originally when I first watched creator play I became his fan, and was a fan of Byun as well. Originally I was neutral towards Maru as well, when he was a mediocre player. Lets us travel back to the very beginning of SC2 and the legendary game of MKP vs Kyrix. With MKP you had a player who, in my opinion, played a dumb risky style with no longevity, but it was exciting as hell and introduced marine splits to the world. At the time I said it was exciting, but the way he played was not solid and would not last. So MKP went through his entire career finding one annoying play style after another that only works for a short time because it isn't figured out. Mass marine vs banes, marine/scv allins, that base trade crap he used to do, pure bio vs mech, mass thor/marine, and so on. I hate everything about his play style and I hate that he didn't disappear like the rest of the crap terrains from that era like BitByBit, Hyperdub, Maka, Ensnare, etc by constantly reinventing himself. I predicted he would disappear way back then and his continued presents in the scene annoys me greatly. Maru is a slightly more solid version of what MKP is and was but is still primarily the same sort of player who uses horrible styles that only work in the short term and wins entirely based on micro. That mass bio swarm with no ghosts or vikings vs protoss he was doing for awhile is such crap it is offensive. My hate for MKP expanded to ruin prime, creator, byun, Polt, Maru, etc. I fully admit my dislike of MKP and Maru is very subjective and largely based on petty reasons that should have no sway in more serious areas of thought. But with that said I believe in rooting for and against people in the scene. I have people I root for heavily and people I root against heavily, and people down a spectrum in between. MKP and Maru are just on the extreme rooting against side, with people like Flash on the extreme rooting for side. This post is long.
I'm a fan of Flash's champion (albeit stubborn) mindset too, but to be fair, Maru isn't the one-trick pony that MKP is.
I think it's funny that you are both making MKP out to be a "one trick pony" while in his ridiculous rant he talks about a large variety of styles that MKP used...
On August 02 2014 00:59 Skynx wrote: Wow all these free agents: MK(P), Mvp, Nestea, MC, DRG (probably) 16 GSL finals appearances altogether...
MC confirmed to have been contracted by KR gov't to establish a low-cost, all-KR team composed of eSF rejects with the sole purpose of farming $$$ in foreign tournaments.
Reference please ? That would be kinda interesting.
On August 02 2014 00:59 Skynx wrote: Wow all these free agents: MK(P), Mvp, Nestea, MC, DRG (probably) 16 GSL finals appearances altogether...
MC confirmed to have been contracted by KR gov't to establish a low-cost, all-KR team composed of eSF rejects with the sole purpose of farming $$$ in foreign tournaments.
Reference please ? That would be kinda interesting.
On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate.
I like to banter with Prime fans as much as the next guy but this is a little extreme… why do you hate Maru and MarineKing so much?
I have nothing against prime. Or nothing directly against prime at least. Originally when I first watched creator play I became his fan, and was a fan of Byun as well. Originally I was neutral towards Maru as well, when he was a mediocre player. Lets us travel back to the very beginning of SC2 and the legendary game of MKP vs Kyrix. With MKP you had a player who, in my opinion, played a dumb risky style with no longevity, but it was exciting as hell and introduced marine splits to the world. At the time I said it was exciting, but the way he played was not solid and would not last. So MKP went through his entire career finding one annoying play style after another that only works for a short time because it isn't figured out. Mass marine vs banes, marine/scv allins, that base trade crap he used to do, pure bio vs mech, mass thor/marine, and so on. I hate everything about his play style and I hate that he didn't disappear like the rest of the crap terrains from that era like BitByBit, Hyperdub, Maka, Ensnare, etc by constantly reinventing himself. I predicted he would disappear way back then and his continued presents in the scene annoys me greatly. Maru is a slightly more solid version of what MKP is and was but is still primarily the same sort of player who uses horrible styles that only work in the short term and wins entirely based on micro. That mass bio swarm with no ghosts or vikings vs protoss he was doing for awhile is such crap it is offensive. My hate for MKP expanded to ruin prime, creator, byun, Polt, Maru, etc. I fully admit my dislike of MKP and Maru is very subjective and largely based on petty reasons that should have no sway in more serious areas of thought. But with that said I believe in rooting for and against people in the scene. I have people I root for heavily and people I root against heavily, and people down a spectrum in between. MKP and Maru are just on the extreme rooting against side, with people like Flash on the extreme rooting for side. This post is long.
I'm a fan of Flash's champion (albeit stubborn) mindset too, but to be fair, Maru isn't the one-trick pony that MKP is.
I think it's funny that you are both making MKP out to be a "one trick pony" while in his ridiculous rant he talks about a large variety of styles that MKP used...
But never at the same time, even now the casters in PL joke about seeing cc first or proxy 2 rax every game from him.
On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate.
I like to banter with Prime fans as much as the next guy but this is a little extreme… why do you hate Maru and MarineKing so much?
I have nothing against prime. Or nothing directly against prime at least. Originally when I first watched creator play I became his fan, and was a fan of Byun as well. Originally I was neutral towards Maru as well, when he was a mediocre player. Lets us travel back to the very beginning of SC2 and the legendary game of MKP vs Kyrix. With MKP you had a player who, in my opinion, played a dumb risky style with no longevity, but it was exciting as hell and introduced marine splits to the world. At the time I said it was exciting, but the way he played was not solid and would not last. So MKP went through his entire career finding one annoying play style after another that only works for a short time because it isn't figured out. Mass marine vs banes, marine/scv allins, that base trade crap he used to do, pure bio vs mech, mass thor/marine, and so on. I hate everything about his play style and I hate that he didn't disappear like the rest of the crap terrains from that era like BitByBit, Hyperdub, Maka, Ensnare, etc by constantly reinventing himself. I predicted he would disappear way back then and his continued presents in the scene annoys me greatly. Maru is a slightly more solid version of what MKP is and was but is still primarily the same sort of player who uses horrible styles that only work in the short term and wins entirely based on micro. That mass bio swarm with no ghosts or vikings vs protoss he was doing for awhile is such crap it is offensive. My hate for MKP expanded to ruin prime, creator, byun, Polt, Maru, etc. I fully admit my dislike of MKP and Maru is very subjective and largely based on petty reasons that should have no sway in more serious areas of thought. But with that said I believe in rooting for and against people in the scene. I have people I root for heavily and people I root against heavily, and people down a spectrum in between. MKP and Maru are just on the extreme rooting against side, with people like Flash on the extreme rooting for side. This post is long.
I'm a fan of Flash's champion (albeit stubborn) mindset too, but to be fair, Maru isn't the one-trick pony that MKP is.
I think it's funny that you are both making MKP out to be a "one trick pony" while in his ridiculous rant he talks about a large variety of styles that MKP used...
But never at the same time, even now the casters in PL joke about seeing cc first or proxy 2 rax every game from him.
Whatever the hate is real but MKP did pretty well in SPL this year for his situation. I'm not a huge MKP fan but I can at least have some respect for the guy seeing as he still wins against good players 3-4 years after his GSL silvers
On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate.
I like to banter with Prime fans as much as the next guy but this is a little extreme… why do you hate Maru and MarineKing so much?
I have nothing against prime. Or nothing directly against prime at least. Originally when I first watched creator play I became his fan, and was a fan of Byun as well. Originally I was neutral towards Maru as well, when he was a mediocre player. Lets us travel back to the very beginning of SC2 and the legendary game of MKP vs Kyrix. With MKP you had a player who, in my opinion, played a dumb risky style with no longevity, but it was exciting as hell and introduced marine splits to the world. At the time I said it was exciting, but the way he played was not solid and would not last. So MKP went through his entire career finding one annoying play style after another that only works for a short time because it isn't figured out. Mass marine vs banes, marine/scv allins, that base trade crap he used to do, pure bio vs mech, mass thor/marine, and so on. I hate everything about his play style and I hate that he didn't disappear like the rest of the crap terrains from that era like BitByBit, Hyperdub, Maka, Ensnare, etc by constantly reinventing himself. I predicted he would disappear way back then and his continued presents in the scene annoys me greatly. Maru is a slightly more solid version of what MKP is and was but is still primarily the same sort of player who uses horrible styles that only work in the short term and wins entirely based on micro. That mass bio swarm with no ghosts or vikings vs protoss he was doing for awhile is such crap it is offensive. My hate for MKP expanded to ruin prime, creator, byun, Polt, Maru, etc. I fully admit my dislike of MKP and Maru is very subjective and largely based on petty reasons that should have no sway in more serious areas of thought. But with that said I believe in rooting for and against people in the scene. I have people I root for heavily and people I root against heavily, and people down a spectrum in between. MKP and Maru are just on the extreme rooting against side, with people like Flash on the extreme rooting for side. This post is long.
I'm a fan of Flash's champion (albeit stubborn) mindset too, but to be fair, Maru isn't the one-trick pony that MKP is.
I think it's funny that you are both making MKP out to be a "one trick pony" while in his ridiculous rant he talks about a large variety of styles that MKP used...
But never at the same time, even now the casters in PL joke about seeing cc first or proxy 2 rax every game from him.
You should joke about Flash going CC first every game?
On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate.
I like to banter with Prime fans as much as the next guy but this is a little extreme… why do you hate Maru and MarineKing so much?
I have nothing against prime. Or nothing directly against prime at least. Originally when I first watched creator play I became his fan, and was a fan of Byun as well. Originally I was neutral towards Maru as well, when he was a mediocre player. Lets us travel back to the very beginning of SC2 and the legendary game of MKP vs Kyrix. With MKP you had a player who, in my opinion, played a dumb risky style with no longevity, but it was exciting as hell and introduced marine splits to the world. At the time I said it was exciting, but the way he played was not solid and would not last. So MKP went through his entire career finding one annoying play style after another that only works for a short time because it isn't figured out. Mass marine vs banes, marine/scv allins, that base trade crap he used to do, pure bio vs mech, mass thor/marine, and so on. I hate everything about his play style and I hate that he didn't disappear like the rest of the crap terrains from that era like BitByBit, Hyperdub, Maka, Ensnare, etc by constantly reinventing himself. I predicted he would disappear way back then and his continued presents in the scene annoys me greatly. Maru is a slightly more solid version of what MKP is and was but is still primarily the same sort of player who uses horrible styles that only work in the short term and wins entirely based on micro. That mass bio swarm with no ghosts or vikings vs protoss he was doing for awhile is such crap it is offensive. My hate for MKP expanded to ruin prime, creator, byun, Polt, Maru, etc. I fully admit my dislike of MKP and Maru is very subjective and largely based on petty reasons that should have no sway in more serious areas of thought. But with that said I believe in rooting for and against people in the scene. I have people I root for heavily and people I root against heavily, and people down a spectrum in between. MKP and Maru are just on the extreme rooting against side, with people like Flash on the extreme rooting for side. This post is long.
I'm a fan of Flash's champion (albeit stubborn) mindset too, but to be fair, Maru isn't the one-trick pony that MKP is.
I think it's funny that you are both making MKP out to be a "one trick pony" while in his ridiculous rant he talks about a large variety of styles that MKP used...
But never at the same time, even now the casters in PL joke about seeing cc first or proxy 2 rax every game from him.
Whatever the hate is real but MKP did pretty well in SPL this year for his situation. I'm not a huge MKP fan but I can at least have some respect for the guy seeing as he still wins against good players 3-4 years after his GSL silvers
I'm a big MKP fan. My top of all time are Jaedong MKP Hyvaa and Flash.
EPT
However, I do hope he does find a foreign team that will send him to foreign tourneys because as an MKP fan it was pretty rough just seeing him only in PL. Maybe he can join GEM and live in europe. 
