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MarineKing leaves PRIME
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kenzi
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MarineKing is leaving PRIME
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Liliputin
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Aeromi
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FanaticCZ
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Calt
Finland1140 Posts
Agh, still makes me feel really sad .... | ||
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TokyoGirl
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DanTastiC
Germany34 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:26 Calthrash wrote: What... No T_T Marineking leaving Prime and DRG leaving MVP.. it truly is an end of an era. I don't know how to feel... From what I understood from google translating the article MKP wants to go to more foreign tournaments before army and be a top player again? Agh, still makes me feel really sad .... You totally forgot Mvp leaving IM, that shit was the real dealbreaker. | ||
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LeLfe
France3160 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
I really hope this means he isn't planning on retiring again, I hope a new team picks him up soon. I feel terrible for Prime though, this will be a very tough blow. As much as Creator is probably the best player on Prime, Marineking is without a doubt its face. I hope the team survives and I hope Marineking prospers in whatever path he chooses. | ||
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TheSayo182
Italy243 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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JustPassingBy
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Yonnua
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R1CH
Netherlands10340 Posts
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Hadronsbecrazy
United Kingdom551 Posts
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Ej_
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puns will never be the same | ||
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Amestir
Netherlands2126 Posts
DRG PRIME only thing that makes sense  | ||
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FragsterTex
Germany6 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Omg, we won't be able to say MKP anymore. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
ps. If he comes and joins Jin Air I WILL EXPLODE On August 01 2014 19:32 Faust852 wrote: Please join Jin Air. Omg, we won't be able to say MKP anymore. Omg lol what thats true lolol. MK JA lolol | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
Fuck sake, nothing will feel the same any more, IM without Mvp, MVP without DRG and now Prime without MKP, oh what has this world come to?! | ||
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Dingodile
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On August 01 2014 19:32 Faust852 wrote: Please join Jin Air. Omg, we won't be able to say MKP anymore. MKJA? MK vs MC -.- | ||
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noobPride
Spain333 Posts
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Diaresta
United States597 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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Liman
Serbia681 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
How does that work... | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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forsakeNXE
Germany539 Posts
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Ocean_1004
Korea (South)37 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:38 KalWarkov wrote: but his nickname is MarineKingPrime. How does that work... MarineKingpasthisPrime In all seriousness, it's going to be really weird to refer to him as MK | ||
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GranC
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Nebulem
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
MK... | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:44 Boucot wrote: MK doesn't sound right. He needs to join a team with a P as the first letter. Like Punchline. Omg, MarineKingPunchline. I laughed out loud. | ||
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Prolet
United States37 Posts
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Ej_
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On August 01 2014 19:44 Boucot wrote: MK doesn't sound right. He needs to join a team with a P as the first letter. Like Punchline. PMK sounds even worse I mean PunchlineMarineKing? MarineKingPunchline is awful too maybe he should just go back to Clare | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:45 Prolet wrote: The scene needs to shrink even more. The prize money is a shadow of what it once was. It's hard enough as it is to make it as a progamer in Starcraft II. If I were them, I would consider military service, going to university, getting a job. All of those would give you a superior income and a future toward eventual retirement. The writing is on the wall, unfortunately. I watch Proleague. That's about it. Yeah yeah we know, #deadgame and stuff. Please stop with this shit. | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Austria16289 Posts
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Zealously
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:46 Zealously wrote: Please put more effort into your threads. A link and a single sentence does not meet TL's posting standards. I'll leave this thread open since it's already at 3 pages, but please keep this in mind in the future. I too would be speechless tbh. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:45 Prolet wrote: The prize money is a shadow of what it once was. So, in other words, you don't know what you're talking about? | ||
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Destructicon
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Rikudou
Germany151 Posts
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TycooN__
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Prime <3 | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:50 Rikudou wrote: that means we cant call him MKP anymore.. MK? that sounds stupid... I will always call him MKP | ||
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TameNaken
Australia361 Posts
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Faust852
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SuperHofmann
Italy1741 Posts
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
ye sad news but to be honest he wasn't doing exceptionally well. i feel like his team full of young players and kind of rookies needs him. well yeah prime without mkp is really something | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:53 Undead1993 wrote: did someone check for lorning? is he still alive? ye sad news but to be honest he wasn't doing exceptionally well. i feel like his team full of young players and kind of rookies needs him. well yeah prime without mkp is really something I think he is in ER right now for heartattack. | ||
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Mekare
Germany393 Posts
MarineKing.... Hope he finds a new team soon, but it just won't be the same. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
Is there more information? | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Morrissey
Germany55 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:55 Saechiis wrote: What? Is there more information? Yes, to be available soon | ||
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Haku
Germany550 Posts
Prime had it hard so or so and now without their superstar player its looking even worse. Many fans are just interested in Prime because of MarineKing, and i don´t think that Creator and some others can keep Prime alive alone. Unbelivable sad news for a Prime and MarineKing Fan like me. Hope its going well for him in the future, and also for the rest of Prime. | ||
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Morrissey
Germany55 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:00 EXRNaRa wrote: Everytime i buy a team shirt because of one player on the team, the player leaves. Prime had it hard so or so and now without their superstar player its looking even worse. Many fans are just interested in Prime because of MarineKing, and i don´t think that Creator and some others can keep Prime alive alone. Unbelivable sad news for a Prime and MarineKing Fan like me. Hope its going well for him in the future, and also for the rest of Prime. State, state will get lots of games now so foreigner carry? | ||
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United Kingdom2215 Posts
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ETisME
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Cricketer12
United States13974 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
MVPMarineKing IMDRG | ||
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Strela
Netherlands1896 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:45 Prolet wrote: The scene needs to shrink even more. The prize money is a shadow of what it once was. It's hard enough as it is to make it as a progamer in Starcraft II. If I were them, I would consider military service, going to university, getting a job. All of those would give you a superior income and a future toward eventual retirement. The writing is on the wall, unfortunately. I watch Proleague. That's about it. Do you have a source for this? I am kinda curious to see the prize money available in the sc2 scene over the years. | ||
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Paljas
Germany6926 Posts
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MChrome
Netherlands201 Posts
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LaaLaaLeevi
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:06 Zealously wrote: MvpPrime MVPMarineKing IMDRG I would begin to question my grasp on reality if that happened. Literally antiverse | ||
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gobbledydook
Australia2603 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:54 Faust852 wrote: I think he is in ER right now for heartattack. it's fine he lost his passion long ago | ||
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NerdCRAFT
United States53 Posts
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Pandahunterz
Netherlands213 Posts
he will always be MKP no matter on what team :p would be sick if all these players are leaving to form a new all-stars team, very unlikely though T_T | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:01 GumBa wrote: If Prime survives this they are officialy unkillable If Lorning survives this he is unhuman | ||
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
We don't exactly know what will happen to the rest of Prime, but hopefully MarineKing, who since his return has once again shown some of his brilliance, will find a new home soon. MarineKing is not just nostalgia, he deserves it. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
He has only one or two year before entering the military and wants to try something different for the time he has left as a pro-gamer. Here is what GerrardPrime said about it : "For about 4 years, he did his best for the team, he trusted the team and i'm so thankful to him. PRIME could exist thanks to MarineKing. I wish we could do his new challenge together, but there was no way to hold him back as he sacrificed so much for the team, for such a long time. I hope he can reach new heights with the new change, i will always support MarineKing and PRIME will try hard to be worthy of making him come back." MKP intends to find a new a team that will help him enter tournaments easily. | ||
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negativedge
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-sLi-
Germany17 Posts
I think that either MKP just leaves, or that PRIME is "restructuring" like MVP is... | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3366 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:14 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: If Lorning survives this he is unhuman aha, was gonna say the same! Hold on Lorning! Stay with us! (or come to the CJ side ^^) | ||
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Twine
France246 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:11 NerdCRAFT wrote: I'm willing to bet that CJ is going to pick him up seeing that they got ByuL why not MarineKing now? I don't think CJ would want another Terran with Bbyong/Gumiho/Bunny/Skyhigh | ||
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
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Haku
Germany550 Posts
OMG <3 | ||
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Turkey7150 Posts
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urasyupi2
United States810 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
Today marks the end of an awesome ride as Lee Jung Hoon (이정훈), aka MarineKingPrime, leaves the team. He has only one or two year before entering the military and wants to try something different for the time he has left as a pro-gamer. Here is what GerrardPrime said about it : "For about 4 years, he did his best for the team, he trusted the team and i'm so thankful to him. PRIME could exist thanks to MarineKing. I wish we could do his new challenge together, but there was no way to hold him back as he sacrificed so much for the team, for such a long time. I hope he can reach new heights with the new change, i will always support MarineKing and PRIME will try hard to be worthy of making him come back." MKP intends to find a new a team that will help him enter tournaments easily. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3366 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:28 Vindicare605 wrote: Prime made a facebook post about this just now. https://www.facebook.com/onlyprime?fref=ts So a foreign team/personal sponsor is actually very likely. Liquid'MarineKing would be sick, myi as well (and he d live in Europe!!!) | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
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jackslater
Russian Federation604 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
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Twine
France246 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:36 jackslater wrote: Jin Air MKP? MKP intends to find a new a team that will help him enter tournaments easily. Don't think so It would have been nice to see maru and marineking in the same team ^^ | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:36 jackslater wrote: Jin Air MKP? After reading what Gerrard said on facebook, I doubt that MKP is looking for another KESPA team. From the sound of it, he wants to join a foreign team that allows him to travel to foreign tournaments like Taeja, Polt, Bomber and Jjajki are. | ||
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PanzerElite
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Decoutan
Germany11 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:31 Amestir wrote: MVP MKP DRG PRIME only thing that makes sense Well than it would be MVP MK >.< (: | ||
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New Zealand15076 Posts
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Motlu
Australia884 Posts
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:47 Marou wrote: Don't worry about the future of Prime there are a lot of exciting news coming for the team. I think i will be able to release all of those sometime next week. <3 | ||
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Tyeshoo
Ukraine11 Posts
so true god dammit | ||
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Ljas
Finland725 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:47 Marou wrote: Don't worry about the future of Prime there are a lot of exciting news coming for the team. I think i will be able to release all of those sometime next week. Ooh, maybe they've finally found Byun. | ||
lichter
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should change name to MarineKingPoor imo | ||
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Mojito99
Germany154 Posts
sound nice at least | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:53 TameNaken wrote: It's ok to cry T.T http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/9/9e/Prime_2012GSTLS1.jpg Can i be that guy who asks if you can do a summary or something of the article in Korean? He leaves Prime is that it? Or does it state why or if he retiring again or if he wants to find new team etcetc? Love you TameNaken <3 | ||
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AFSpeeDy
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EpicShroom
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Darkus3
France66 Posts
If he comes at many foreign tournaments again in europe or america it will be the best for him and for us. MarineKing have always stay in my heart whatever team/ID he have as Boxer Foxer MarineKingPrime and whereever he will go i will be with him for the life, MKP I cheer for you ! Which you the best since the end of your carier approach ... MKP Fighting ~~ | ||
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Liliputin
Czech Republic458 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:47 Marou wrote: Don't worry about the future of Prime there are a lot of exciting news coming for the team. I think i will be able to release all of those sometime next week. Im so glad to hear this! <3 Prime has a really young talented rookie team, they just need few good players to look up to and lead them, now that MKP( MK ) left, Creator is for sure their best player, but he is too young to be a leader or a captain of the team... | ||
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suicideyear
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Miss_Foxy
Singapore109 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On August 01 2014 21:00 Liliputin wrote: Im so glad to hear this! <3 Prime has a really young talented rookie team, they just need few good players to look up to and lead them, now that MKP( MK ) left, Creator is for sure their best player, but he is too young to be a leader or a captain of the team...They need the experience and calm one, something that MKP sort of was but as an emotional player himself he wasn't? Well prime still will be who I root for in Proleague, State carry! | ||
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AKAvg
Brazil298 Posts
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eggpack
Brazil4 Posts
BOOM. | ||
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Daswollvieh
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TameNaken
Australia361 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:52 Pandemona wrote: Can i be that guy who asks if you can do a summary or something of the article in Korean? He leaves Prime is that it? Or does it state why or if he retiring again or if he wants to find new team etcetc? Love you TameNaken <3 It says MK is a fan favourite ever since he first started doing his marine splits. He came back from LOL earlier this year and fulfilled the ace role of prime. MK talked to the prime coach about what to do next. He still has to go to the military but for the next 2 years (before he goes) he wants to have new experiences. Gerard said "For the last 4 years MK believed in the team and he worked really hard. Prime is only the way it is now because of him. It would be good if he could stay but he has been dedicated to this team for so long" "I wish we could make new changes and reach a higher place with MK. I hope he keeps cheering on prime and the rest of us will work hard to become the best team if he ever comes back." MK intends to find a team that can fund his participation in foreign tournaments. | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
On August 01 2014 21:15 TameNaken wrote: It says MK is a fan favourite ever since he first started doing his marine splits. He came back from LOL earlier this year and fulfilled the ace role of prime. MK talked to the prime coach about what to do next. He still has to go to the military but for the next 2 years (before he goes) he wants to have new experiences. Gerard said "For the last 4 years MK believed in the team and he worked really hard. Prime is only the way it is now because of him. It would be good if he could stay but he has been dedicated to this team for so long" "I wish we could make new changes and reach a higher place with MK. I hope he keeps cheering on prime and the rest of us will work hard to become the best team if he ever comes back." MK intends to find a team that can fund his participation in foreign tournaments. aha i like your translation better :D | ||
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CometNine
New Zealand87 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51484 Posts
On August 01 2014 21:15 TameNaken wrote: It says MK is a fan favourite ever since he first started doing his marine splits. He came back from LOL earlier this year and fulfilled the ace role of prime. MK talked to the prime coach about what to do next. He still has to go to the military but for the next 2 years (before he goes) he wants to have new experiences. Gerard said "For the last 4 years MK believed in the team and he worked really hard. Prime is only the way it is now because of him. It would be good if he could stay but he has been dedicated to this team for so long" "I wish we could make new changes and reach a higher place with MK. I hope he keeps cheering on prime and the rest of us will work hard to become the best team if he ever comes back." MK intends to find a team that can fund his participation in foreign tournaments. Wow thanks TameNaken, your the best <333333333333333 | ||
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TameNaken
Australia361 Posts
On August 01 2014 21:17 Marou wrote: aha i like your translation better :D Ahh sorry, I didn't see yours. I would of left it otherwise. Honestly i prefer yours, wanna switch? | ||
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igay
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extinctosaurus
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I was (unrealistically) hoping they would all come together to form a super team but my hopes are dashed since MK_ said he's looking for a team. UNLESS THEY ALL JOIN THE SAME TEAM (I know, it won't happen) On August 01 2014 21:29 BisuDagger wrote: This is sad, but there era truly died when WoL ended. In the same way Brood War is not SC2, HoTs is not WoL. The expansion breeds a completely different set of people. It pains me to see these players have so much trouble, but I'm also scared of what we will see when LoTV comes out. On the plus side maybe some of the current middle-of-the-road players will become super awesome? ;_; | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3627 Posts
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19239 Posts
On August 01 2014 21:46 extinctosaurus wrote: All these "face of the team" players leaving ;_; So sad. MK_.... I was (unrealistically) hoping they would all come together to form a super team but my hopes are dashed since MK_ said he's looking for a team. UNLESS THEY ALL JOIN THE SAME TEAM (I know, it won't happen) On the plus side maybe some of the current middle-of-the-road players will become super awesome? ;_;Possibly. The true elephant in the room is the next expansion. | ||
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phoenixfeather95
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
I also don't see a Korean team that would be willing to pick him up. Nobody needs him..... Maybe a foreign team? but meh.. Edit: Maybe MVP though | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On August 01 2014 21:56 Shinta) wrote: I don't see why he'd leave Prime unless they are disbanding or he is retiring. I also don't see a Korean team that would be willing to pick him up. Nobody needs him..... Maybe a foreign team? but meh.. Edit: Maybe MVP though The whole point of him leaving is to find a team that can get him to foreign tournaments. That means he isn't looking for a Korean team. Go back a few pages in the thread, there's translated stuff for you to read. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Topin
Peru10078 Posts
T_T waht a terrible way to start my day fuk | ||
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Darkus3
France66 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I'll leave my team tag like that until MarineKing finds a new team. Because he will. He has to :'( | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 01 2014 22:17 ZenithM wrote: I don't really have a reason to root for Prime anymore, I'm sorry I just can't. :'( I'll leave my team tag like that until MarineKing finds a new team. Because he will. He has to :'( Just cheer for TSL bro ! | ||
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1119 Posts
Acer mYinsanity Millenium Liquid or mYi i would say | ||
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Rustug
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He was a very exciting player to watch, I hope he can deal with this set-back and fight-back, reinvent himself and regain his glory. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On August 01 2014 22:21 Striker.superfreunde wrote: Liquid.pro Acer mYinsanity Millenium Liquid or mYi i would say If Millenium hires a new player, it would be a Protoss. | ||
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Canada8304 Posts
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On August 01 2014 22:30 TheDougler wrote: Am I the only one that's okay with this? I can't wait to see MKP at more events than just proleague, and I'm pretty optimistic that he will be picked up. Would be cool to see axiom MK (axiomFoxer perhaps? Sounds better) I think most of us have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand most fans of his are going to be happy to see him competing in more foreign tournaments, but on the other hand it just won't be the same if it isn't with the Prime tag at the end of his name. | ||
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1119 Posts
On August 01 2014 22:27 Boucot wrote: If Millenium hires a new player, it would be a Protoss. Acer probably too. In addition, they already have 2 (good) terrans. Last thing i've heard about EG is that they will boost their line up around LotV. Personal sponsor/dukuknow/bounty hunters/gem could be an option, but i don't want to see him without a team | ||
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JoeCool
Germany2520 Posts
On August 01 2014 22:04 Vindicare605 wrote: The whole point of him leaving is to find a team that can get him to foreign tournaments. That means he isn't looking for a Korean team. Go back a few pages in the thread, there's translated stuff for you to read. Still the question remains, is there any (serious) foreign team out there that needs him? | ||
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
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gneGne
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Topin
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DreamR
United Kingdom168 Posts
il give you an example to my question. Dear in a mouseEsports shirt. didnt look right. and was uncomfortable. he then became team-less i know the questions is stupid but ina sense it makes sense? | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On August 01 2014 22:34 JoeCool wrote: Still the question remains, is there any (serious) foreign team out there that needs him? With his popularity I do not think it will be very hard for him to find a team at all. | ||
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Darkus3
France66 Posts
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
oh man | ||
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Wampaibist
United States478 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:31 Yonnua wrote: Mvp, Nestea, Marineking, DRG Dream Team kills proleague? killing in kind of being AWESOME yes, but they would probably end 1-7 xD | ||
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klipik12
United States241 Posts
On August 01 2014 21:10 eggpack wrote: Marine is something related to sea. The sea is liquid. BOOM. Half-Life 3 confirmed? CMStormMarineKing CMStormDongRaeGu CMStormMvp CMStormRevival CMStormPolt make it happen <3 | ||
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rice_devOurer
United States773 Posts
On August 01 2014 22:54 dark1882 wrote: Lorning watch continues.... he had so little passion left, i'm afraid this broke him. He replied to a post in this thread earler. edit: | ||
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TheFlexN
Israel472 Posts
About his ingame name, he will have to keep the "prime" for MKP, I mean: LiquidMKP AxiomMKP (TB do your magic please) EGMKP etc. | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 01 2014 23:07 geokilla wrote: Prime to disband. Heard it hear first. Good luck to Marineking On August 01 2014 20:47 Marou wrote: Don't worry about the future of Prime there are a lot of exciting news coming for the team. I think i will be able to release all of those sometime next week. | ||
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dark1882
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On August 01 2014 23:07 TheFlexN wrote: Well, hopefully he will join a new team soon, I want to see him more in tournaments, I miss him About his ingame name, he will have to keep the "prime" for MKP, I mean: LiquidMKP AxiomMKP (TB do your magic please) EGMKP etc. Axiom mkp would be awesome :o but i'm not sure they have the room at the team house (unless mma has decided to not come back from germany) | ||
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bokchoi
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AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
On August 01 2014 23:11 dark1882 wrote: Axiom mkp would be awesome :o but i'm not sure they have the room at the team house (unless mma has decided to not come back from germany) They've had room ever since Inno left | ||
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dark1882
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the house has 6-8 beds i believe, ryung, Alicia, Crank, Heart, Impact, mma, (olimoley possibly?) and if there is 8 beds then you're right but i thought it was only 6 :o and rather i suppose since thestc moved out (he replaced inno) you may be right. | ||
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Advantageous
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Makro
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Garnet
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On August 01 2014 23:33 ZenithM wrote: Please no RandomSponsorMarineDuckKingRandomTeamTag please... That's all I wish for. Pls get a good team mkgoodteam | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On August 01 2014 23:39 Garnet wrote: Probably going to a KeSPA team. Prime is a kespa team | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
No it's not? Prime isn't supported by Kespa they're the only independant team in Proleague IIRC? | ||
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
On August 01 2014 23:46 Ovid wrote: No it's not? Prime isn't supported by Kespa they're the only independant team in Proleague IIRC? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/435652-im-mvp-prime-najin-joins-kespa | ||
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mr_tolkien
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packrat386
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CakeSauc3
United States1437 Posts
Liquid'MarineKing please. Oh, and he needs to change his name - add the Prime to it just as part of his name. MKP forever. | ||
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Silvana
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I'm really sad for Prime tho. They are a cool team with young talent (Creator is good, Salvation and Kassia looked promising), they just need a leader... Hope they can get someone up to the task, cmon Prime hold on! | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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TheFlock
United States389 Posts
I feel really bad for Prime, I really want them to do well. They need Byun more than ever now!!!!!Hopefully we can see MK (that will always be weird) get picked up soon but I wonder who? So many koreans on the market it seems | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
 Well, maybe he saw another option that fits him outside of prime. Too bad though. MKP will always be linked to prime for me ^^ | ||
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zEEzz
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i hope he can join a top European team soon and go for more foreign tournaments! | ||
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United States2429 Posts
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Viag
France4 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate. What ? .... | ||
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zEEzz
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On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate. please explain | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:42 Maghetti wrote: Yeees I love the tears. The only way this news can ruin things for me is if MKP goes to a kespa team. If he joins KT I will need to remove KT from my favorite team spot and that would be devastating. Maru already ruined Jin Air for me. But for now I will celebrate. I like to banter with Prime fans as much as the next guy but this is a little extreme… why do you hate Maru and MarineKing so much? | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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Poopi
France12880 Posts
. I will still call him MKP tho.Hopefully Prime doesn't disband, this and the Thermaltake case, poor them :/. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
On August 02 2014 01:01 Darkhorse wrote: I like to banter with Prime fans as much as the next guy but this is a little extreme… why do you hate Maru and MarineKing so much? I have nothing against prime. Or nothing directly against prime at least. Originally when I first watched creator play I became his fan, and was a fan of Byun as well. Originally I was neutral towards Maru as well, when he was a mediocre player. Lets us travel back to the very beginning of SC2 and the legendary game of MKP vs Kyrix. With MKP you had a player who, in my opinion, played a dumb risky style with no longevity, but it was exciting as hell and introduced marine splits to the world. At the time I said it was exciting, but the way he played was not solid and would not last. So MKP went through his entire career finding one annoying play style after another that only works for a short time because it isn't figured out. Mass marine vs banes, marine/scv allins, that base trade crap he used to do, pure bio vs mech, mass thor/marine, and so on. I hate everything about his play style and I hate that he didn't disappear like the rest of the crap terrains from that era like BitByBit, Hyperdub, Maka, Ensnare, etc by constantly reinventing himself. I predicted he would disappear way back then and his continued presents in the scene annoys me greatly. Maru is a slightly more solid version of what MKP is and was but is still primarily the same sort of player who uses horrible styles that only work in the short term and wins entirely based on micro. That mass bio swarm with no ghosts or vikings vs protoss he was doing for awhile is such crap it is offensive. My hate for MKP expanded to ruin prime, creator, byun, Polt, Maru, etc. I fully admit my dislike of MKP and Maru is very subjective and largely based on petty reasons that should have no sway in more serious areas of thought. But with that said I believe in rooting for and against people in the scene. I have people I root for heavily and people I root against heavily, and people down a spectrum in between. MKP and Maru are just on the extreme rooting against side, with people like Flash on the extreme rooting for side. This post is long. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
However, I do hope he does find a foreign team that will send him to foreign tourneys because as an MKP fan it was pretty rough just seeing him only in PL. Maybe he can join GEM and live in europe. He deserves a good team now after how loyal and supportive he was to prime and he's truly one of the icons of sc2. Win or lose, MKP is the most exciting player for me to watch. He could drive his fans mad with his yolo plays, but that's also part of his charm. He'll probably never return to his past glory, but it would be really great to see him at some foreign tourneys before he retires. | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
But I will forever say "MKP" when talking to friends. So that's going to get confusing. Lol. | ||
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Canada5973 Posts
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Lumi
United States1612 Posts
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mvdunecats
United States102 Posts
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
can't keep up with KeSPA, go join foreign teams. zzz, such passion. | ||
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United States2053 Posts
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orvinreyes
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On August 02 2014 01:24 Maghetti wrote: I have nothing against prime. Or nothing directly against prime at least. Originally when I first watched creator play I became his fan, and was a fan of Byun as well. Originally I was neutral towards Maru as well, when he was a mediocre player. Lets us travel back to the very beginning of SC2 and the legendary game of MKP vs Kyrix. With MKP you had a player who, in my opinion, played a dumb risky style with no longevity, but it was exciting as hell and introduced marine splits to the world. At the time I said it was exciting, but the way he played was not solid and would not last. So MKP went through his entire career finding one annoying play style after another that only works for a short time because it isn't figured out. Mass marine vs banes, marine/scv allins, that base trade crap he used to do, pure bio vs mech, mass thor/marine, and so on. I hate everything about his play style and I hate that he didn't disappear like the rest of the crap terrains from that era like BitByBit, Hyperdub, Maka, Ensnare, etc by constantly reinventing himself. I predicted he would disappear way back then and his continued presents in the scene annoys me greatly. Maru is a slightly more solid version of what MKP is and was but is still primarily the same sort of player who uses horrible styles that only work in the short term and wins entirely based on micro. That mass bio swarm with no ghosts or vikings vs protoss he was doing for awhile is such crap it is offensive. My hate for MKP expanded to ruin prime, creator, byun, Polt, Maru, etc. I fully admit my dislike of MKP and Maru is very subjective and largely based on petty reasons that should have no sway in more serious areas of thought. But with that said I believe in rooting for and against people in the scene. I have people I root for heavily and people I root against heavily, and people down a spectrum in between. MKP and Maru are just on the extreme rooting against side, with people like Flash on the extreme rooting for side. This post is long. I'm a fan of Flash's champion (albeit stubborn) mindset too, but to be fair, Maru isn't the one-trick pony that MKP is. | ||
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Faust852
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
On August 02 2014 00:59 Skynx wrote: Wow all these free agents: MK(P), Mvp, Nestea, MC, DRG (probably) 16 GSL finals appearances altogether... MC confirmed to have been contracted by KR gov't to establish a low-cost, all-KR team composed of eSF rejects with the sole purpose of farming $$$ in foreign tournaments. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On August 02 2014 01:47 orvinreyes wrote: I'm a fan of Flash's champion (albeit stubborn) mindset too, but to be fair, Maru isn't the one-trick pony that MKP is. I think it's funny that you are both making MKP out to be a "one trick pony" while in his ridiculous rant he talks about a large variety of styles that MKP used... | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
On August 02 2014 01:54 orvinreyes wrote: MC confirmed to have been contracted by KR gov't to establish a low-cost, all-KR team composed of eSF rejects with the sole purpose of farming $$$ in foreign tournaments. Reference please ? That would be kinda interesting. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 02 2014 01:59 [PkF] Wire wrote: Reference please ? That would be kinda interesting. It's a joke | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On August 02 2014 01:54 Darkhorse wrote: I think it's funny that you are both making MKP out to be a "one trick pony" while in his ridiculous rant he talks about a large variety of styles that MKP used... But never at the same time, even now the casters in PL joke about seeing cc first or proxy 2 rax every game from him. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:00 Ovid wrote: But never at the same time, even now the casters in PL joke about seeing cc first or proxy 2 rax every game from him. Whatever the hate is real but MKP did pretty well in SPL this year for his situation. I'm not a huge MKP fan but I can at least have some respect for the guy seeing as he still wins against good players 3-4 years after his GSL silvers | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:00 Ovid wrote: But never at the same time, even now the casters in PL joke about seeing cc first or proxy 2 rax every game from him. You should joke about Flash going CC first every game? | ||
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StraTkSloth
United States181 Posts
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:03 Darkhorse wrote: Whatever the hate is real but MKP did pretty well in SPL this year for his situation. I'm not a huge MKP fan but I can at least have some respect for the guy seeing as he still wins against good players 3-4 years after his GSL silvers I'm a big MKP fan. My top of all time are Jaedong MKP Hyvaa and Flash. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
I'm so naive ! But they definitely should make an all-GSL finalists team ! | ||
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orvinreyes
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On August 02 2014 01:54 Darkhorse wrote: I think it's funny that you are both making MKP out to be a "one trick pony" while in his ridiculous rant he talks about a large variety of styles that MKP used... Those "variety of styles" can be lumped into the one-dimensional category of annoying micro tricks/exploits that he prefers to use which limits him. Another T player like this that comes to mind would be Fantasy, who loves microing units to death while foregoing strategy and macro. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:05 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm so naive ! But they definitely should make an all-GSL finalists team ! Well, SKT1 is pretty close to that with Classic, Parting, soO, and Soulkey. IM was pretty close too with Mvp, Nestea, and Seed, plus a partnership with MC for a season of GSTL. | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:08 orvinreyes wrote: Those "variety of styles" can be lumped into the one-dimensional category of annoying micro tricks/exploits that he prefers to use which limits him. Another T player like this that comes to mind would be Fantasy, who loves microing units to death while foregoing strategy and macro. Whatever imo he brought variety to the game and amazing micro is cool. Maru's TvP in late 2013 wasn't the best strategy but it was damn exciting to watch given his micro. If you don't like it that's cool though to each their own. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
(To be precise, it's more about the symbol than about the skill of these players, which is, relatively speaking, clearly not at the same level than before..) | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24202 Posts
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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orvinreyes
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On August 02 2014 02:15 Ragnarork wrote: These days mark the end of an era, truly... (To be precise, it's more about the symbol than about the skill of these players, which is, relatively speaking, clearly not at the same level than before..) The thing is, their skill is actually the same as before. (except maybe for Nestea, who just got too old for the game)Fact is these influx of BW pros and KeSPA investments increased the overall skill ceiling in KR, causing these guys to explore other opportunities. Would be really funny though if someone from NA or EU wins it all at Blizzcon. | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:23 orvinreyes wrote: The thing is, their skill is actually the same as before. (except maybe for Nestea, who just got too old for the game)Fact is these influx of BW pros and KeSPA investments increased the overall skill ceiling in KR, causing these guys to explore other opportunities. Would be really funny though if someone from NA or EU wins it all at Blizzcon. Mvp couldn't train for more than a year. DRG and MKP have good results nowadays too. It's not like they are bad. MKP was the best T in the last round of PL. | ||
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CakeSauc3
United States1437 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:08 orvinreyes wrote: Those "variety of styles" can be lumped into the one-dimensional category of annoying micro tricks/exploits that he prefers to use which limits him. Another T player like this that comes to mind would be Fantasy, who loves microing units to death while foregoing strategy and macro. Those "annoying micro tricks" are pretty damn impressive and entertaining to watch, lol. I guess to someone who loves SC2 primarily for the strategy element, he wouldn't be interesting to watch. But I love the micro, and MKP has always been the best at it. Kind of like watching old Boxer vids... that stuff just gives me nerd chills. | ||
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Joner
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On August 01 2014 19:31 Hadronsbecrazy wrote: please go to Jin Air :D Yes, please! | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
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Iodem
United States1173 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:05 [PkF] Wire wrote: I'm so naive ! But they definitely should make an all-GSL finalists team ! or they could not have MK and make an all-GSL champions team | ||
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GuitarBizarre
United Kingdom332 Posts
I mean, think about it - Who, Starcraft wise, is on GEM already? MC, Scarlett, Tasteless, Artosis, Bomber, MVP (Already), Leenock, Moonglade, Nestea, WhiteRa. Now where do they go from here? I'm guessing "Pick up not top talent, but players with brand equity" is a big thing for them. All these players have that in spades. HUGE brand equity that can be turned into sponsor cash. And since GEM are agents, not sponsors themselves, they can leverage individual sponsorships and don't have to worry about competing sponsors since each player's portfolio can expand seperately. | ||
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Josh_Video
Canada798 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:50 GuitarBizarre wrote: I'm actually wondering if maybe the reason we're hearing about these big names leaving their teams is because they're going to GEM/duknow, and that GEM are going to up their game a little in terms of their active promotion. I mean, think about it - Who, Starcraft wise, is on GEM already? MC, Scarlett, Tasteless, Artosis, Bomber, MVP (Already), Leenock, Moonglade, Nestea, WhiteRa. Now where do they go from here? I'm guessing "Pick up not top talent, but players with brand equity" is a big thing for them. All these players have that in spades. HUGE brand equity that can be turned into sponsor cash. And since GEM are agents, not sponsors themselves, they can leverage individual sponsorships and don't have to worry about competing sponsors since each player's portfolio can expand seperately. MKG doesn't sounds as good as MKP though. | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
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France24202 Posts
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Mortal
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:50 GuitarBizarre wrote: I'm actually wondering if maybe the reason we're hearing about these big names leaving their teams is because they're going to GEM/duknow, and that GEM are going to up their game a little in terms of their active promotion. I mean, think about it - Who, Starcraft wise, is on GEM already? MC, Scarlett, Tasteless, Artosis, Bomber, MVP (Already), Leenock, Moonglade, Nestea, WhiteRa. Now where do they go from here? I'm guessing "Pick up not top talent, but players with brand equity" is a big thing for them. All these players have that in spades. HUGE brand equity that can be turned into sponsor cash. And since GEM are agents, not sponsors themselves, they can leverage individual sponsorships and don't have to worry about competing sponsors since each player's portfolio can expand seperately. Scarlett is on GEM? | ||
Yhamm
France7248 Posts
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Steinchen
Austria39 Posts
and i hope he finds a new nice kick ass team! | ||
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Sacrilege
United States199 Posts
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
On August 02 2014 02:33 Arceus wrote: MarineKing going to T1 makes the most sense for me. The team needs a terran, the dude needs good environment to fully develop How does a under preforming Terran make sense to go to one of the best SC2 teams in the world?? It makes more sense for Marine King to leave Korea and try his luck overseas, he is past his prime, and not doing well in Korea at all... | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On August 02 2014 03:03 LingBlingBling wrote: How does a under preforming Terran make sense to go to one of the best SC2 teams in the world?? It makes more sense for Marine King to leave Korea and try his luck overseas, he is past his prime, and not doing well in Korea at all... Isn't his proleague record above 50% and he's in either position one or one of the last meaning he's going up vs the aces of other top teams? How does that say underperforming? Sure he's not some god of SC2 winning everything anymore but he holds his own comfortably. | ||
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boxerfred
Germany8360 Posts
On August 02 2014 03:03 LingBlingBling wrote: How does a under preforming Terran make sense to go to one of the best SC2 teams in the world?? It makes more sense for Marine King to leave Korea and try his luck overseas, he is past his prime, and not doing well in Korea at all... Carrying prime along with Creator does not look like underperforming to me, though I agree that he's unstable. That's implied in being MKP though, maybe a team change will change that? | ||
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sunshinehero
Norway89 Posts
he is past his prime, amazing | ||
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Ryuhou)aS(
United States1174 Posts
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orvinreyes
577 Posts
On August 02 2014 03:00 Sacrilege wrote: The cataclysm is in full swing. The old world as we know it is changing!! I really hope Mvp, MKP and DRG all find new homes! I love them all so much. Well it's basically the elephant in the room drama all over again, but this time it's really happening | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
On August 02 2014 03:12 Ovid wrote: Isn't his proleague record above 50% and he's in either position one or one of the last meaning he's going up vs the aces of other top teams? How does that say underperforming? Sure he's not some god of SC2 winning everything anymore but he holds his own comfortably. He is doing terrible, Code B, not able to do anything but get a few minor wins in proleague, he is not what SKT1 needs. Marine King would do far better overseas and able to make more money than he would in Korea. His coach said that's his goal anyway, I would love to see Marine King over seas, he has tons of fans here to. | ||
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Poopi
France12880 Posts
On August 02 2014 03:03 LingBlingBling wrote: How does a under preforming Terran make sense to go to one of the best SC2 teams in the world?? It makes more sense for Marine King to leave Korea and try his luck overseas, he is past his prime, and not doing well in Korea at all... Wasn't he the best terran in PL this season? Doing better than the terrans in the so called best teams . | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On August 02 2014 03:32 Poopi wrote: Wasn't he the best terran in PL this season? Doing better than the terrans in the so called best teams .Who, MKP? He was fourth at best, after Bbyong, Flash and TY, even fifth, after Cure. And i forgot about Maru, so sixth. On August 02 2014 03:03 LingBlingBling wrote: How does a under preforming Terran make sense to go to one of the best SC2 teams in the world?? It makes more sense for Marine King to leave Korea and try his luck overseas, he is past his prime, and not doing well in Korea at all... SKMK Telecom T1 On August 02 2014 03:28 LingBlingBling wrote: He is doing terrible, Code B, not able to do anything but get a few minor wins in proleague, he is not what SKT1 needs. Marine King would do far better overseas and able to make more money than he would in Korea. His coach said that's his goal anyway, I would love to see Marine King over seas, he has tons of fans here to. Well, let's be honest, MKP was trying his ass off to carry Prime, but even winning bunch of ace matches isn't enough sometimes. | ||
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Netherlands697 Posts
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Prolet
United States37 Posts
On August 01 2014 20:06 Strela wrote: Do you have a source for this? I am kinda curious to see the prize money available in the sc2 scene over the years. No I do not have a source. Perhaps I spoke out of turn. But at the very least, we can agree the competition is much more fierce with the addition of KESPA teams. We see that there is no shortage of skilled free agents, making it a buyer's market. Teams can drive the money down they are willing to offer a player. Or they can even disband the team entirely and bring in a whole new roster. But yeah, I would be curious too. Much less MLG involvment, NASL, IPL gone. May be 1 or 2 less GSLs per year, though higher prize pool per tournament. I don't think WCS makes up for that, unfortunately. | ||
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CakeSauc3
United States1437 Posts
On August 02 2014 03:39 gneGne wrote: No, MKP was tied with Marus 4-5 score for best terran. 9th place overall performer. Wow, he tied Maru's score? Better than I expected, haha. wp MKP | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On August 02 2014 03:03 LingBlingBling wrote: How does a under preforming Terran make sense to go to one of the best SC2 teams in the world?? It makes more sense for Marine King to leave Korea and try his luck overseas, he is past his prime, and not doing well in Korea at all... Idk, ask Bravo. | ||
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di4m0nd
United States297 Posts
On August 02 2014 03:45 Prolet wrote: No I do not have a source. Perhaps I spoke out of turn. But at the very least, we can agree the competition is much more fierce with the addition of KESPA teams. We see that there is no shortage of skilled free agents, making it a buyer's market. Teams can drive the money down they are willing to offer a player. Or they can even disband the team entirely and bring in a whole new roster. But yeah, I would be curious too. Much less MLG involvment, NASL, IPL gone. May be 1 or 2 less GSLs per year, though higher prize pool per tournament. I don't think WCS makes up for that, unfortunately. OK so I just did the math (well pretty much adding numbers :/) source - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments 2010 - 648,500 (does not include beta) 2011 - 2,239360 2012 - 2,784,890 2013 - 190,836 (Wol Winnings only) 2013 - 2,285,999 (HOTS Winnings only) 2014 - 2,281,175 so for the premier Tournaments there isnt really a huge decrease I cant say for the Major or minor tournaments. But all in all the money is still getting shoveled down sc2s throat. | ||
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
But please, TL, pick him up! | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
DRG is no longer an MVP IM dead | ||
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F1nal
Germany216 Posts
I hope some good team will pick him up ! | ||
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On August 02 2014 04:18 di4m0nd wrote: OK so I just did the math (well pretty much adding numbers :/) source - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments 2010 - 648,500 (does not include beta) 2011 - 2,239360 2012 - 2,784,890 2013 - 190,836 (Wol Winnings only) 2013 - 2,285,999 (HOTS Winnings only) 2014 - 2,281,175 so for the premier Tournaments there isnt really a huge decrease I cant say for the Major or minor tournaments. But all in all the money is still getting shoveled down sc2s throat. Even though there was a lot of hype back in the day, let's not forget the prize pool back in 2011 was pretty poor in tournaments like dreamhack/mlg Back then, MLG champion got only 5k (back when mma, bomber, mvp and huk were winning it), even though those were one of the best tournaments ever in terms of hype, enthusiasm, etc... | ||
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Tchado
Jordan1831 Posts
, this shit is insane..... MK playing games with our hearts !!!! | ||
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Tngabor
Serbia60 Posts
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Prolet
United States37 Posts
Even if you placed 5th-8th every season of WCS, that's only $15,000 before taxes. Even less in GSL as the prize distribution is more top heavy. Place high at a few other tournaments + salary, you could double, triple that $15,000. Then take out taxes. Not sure how prize money is taxed. Even without, a degree income is higher and definitely more stable than Starcraft II career. Look at the caliber of players placing 5th-8th every season. Then think about what income they probably make, putting in the hours they do. That is why I don't think even joining a foreign team and concentrating around those foreign tournaments will change MKP's life much. | ||
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GreenFate
France289 Posts
On August 01 2014 19:31 Amestir wrote: MVP MKP DRG PRIME only thing that makes sense MVP MK* | ||
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SkySC2
Germany303 Posts
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blacksheepwall
China1530 Posts
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Arghmyliver
United States1077 Posts
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Genome852
United States979 Posts
On August 02 2014 06:16 Prolet wrote: I don't think players make that much money. They don't, unless their name is mvp, mc, or nestea... | ||
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ragz_gt
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On August 02 2014 07:15 ragz_gt wrote: MKP did ok. He didn't get rich, but 150k~ is not chump change either. He's actually won almost 200k (14th all time) | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
I'm sad... but maybe MK | ||
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PinoKotsBeer
Netherlands1385 Posts
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Prolet
United States37 Posts
On August 02 2014 07:29 Darkhorse wrote: He's actually won almost 200k (14th all time) It just depends on on you state the numbers. 200,000 seems like a big number. Remember, he's been playing for 3, almost 4 years. $66,667 per year if over three years. Or $50,000 per year over four years. If we don't expect him to make any major earnings before the year runs out, closer to the later.You could argue he earns it, if he is one of those players putting in twelve hours a day, 7 days a week. Of course I have to do some assuming, I do not know his arrangements. That certainly was awesome when he was younger with team stipend (however much that is). But as I said, he is 21 now. I suspect that team Prime is not paying so well since Bomber and now MKP left. And every year he doesn't earn significant prize it stretches that ~$200,000 further. At the end of the day, we will just have to see what happens. He already left the game once. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On August 02 2014 07:55 Prolet wrote: It just depends on on you state the numbers. 200,000 seems like a big number. Remember, he's been playing for 3, almost 4 years. $66,667 per year if over three years. Or $50,000 per year over four years. If we don't expect him to make any major earnings before the year runs out, closer to the later.You could argue he earns it, if he is one of those players putting in twelve hours a day, 7 days a week. Of course I have to do some assuming, I do not know his arrangements. That certainly was awesome when he was younger with team stipend (however much that is). But as I said, he is 21 now. I suspect that team Prime is not paying so well since Bomber and now MKP left. And every year he doesn't earn significant prize it stretches that ~$200,000 further. At the end of the day, we will just have to see what happens. He already left the game once. Wait, when was Bomber on PRIME? | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On August 02 2014 07:55 Prolet wrote: It just depends on on you state the numbers. 200,000 seems like a big number. Remember, he's been playing for 3, almost 4 years. $66,667 per year if over three years. Or $50,000 per year over four years. If we don't expect him to make any major earnings before the year runs out, closer to the later.You could argue he earns it, if he is one of those players putting in twelve hours a day, 7 days a week. Of course I have to do some assuming, I do not know his arrangements. That certainly was awesome when he was younger with team stipend (however much that is). But as I said, he is 21 now. I suspect that team Prime is not paying so well since Bomber and now MKP left. And every year he doesn't earn significant prize it stretches that ~$200,000 further. At the end of the day, we will just have to see what happens. He already left the game once. Bomber never was on Prime. And if 200k is just from tournaments you'd have to imagine he has a decent chunk from a salary as well. Sure if he's ONLY making 200k in 4 years that's not great, but that just isn't the case | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On August 02 2014 07:59 chipmonklord17 wrote: Bomber never was on Prime. And if 200k is just from tournaments you'd have to imagine he has a decent chunk from a salary as well. Sure if he's ONLY making 200k in 4 years that's not great, but that just isn't the case If I could make 50k a year playing a game I probably would. | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On August 02 2014 04:18 di4m0nd wrote: OK so I just did the math (well pretty much adding numbers :/) source - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments 2010 - 648,500 (does not include beta) 2011 - 2,239360 2012 - 2,784,890 2013 - 190,836 (Wol Winnings only) 2013 - 2,285,999 (HOTS Winnings only) 2014 - 2,281,175 so for the premier Tournaments there isnt really a huge decrease I cant say for the Major or minor tournaments. But all in all the money is still getting shoveled down sc2s throat. interesting, thank you. however, i wonder how much of that money went to gsl, katowice and blizzcon champions. in other words: if you do not win one of the 3-6 really "big" tournaments of the year (in terms of winner's prize money), how big is the available prize pool then? i feel like the distribution of that available money has become much more top-heavy in recent years. | ||
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United States1649 Posts
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Survivor61316
United States470 Posts
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Kimb3r
Germany744 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8240 Posts
On August 02 2014 07:48 PinoKotsBeer wrote: The only great thing left at Prime is Barbie You forgot Creator and ByuN. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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SaintFrancis
Canada46 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On August 02 2014 08:57 SaintFrancis wrote: Don't worry guys, it's a new start for MK. He might just go into more foreign tournaments and maybe with a foreign team. I would love that as MK is my favorite player I agree. He should join a team with all those players who left their teams recently: ANUSTART_MKP, ANUSTART_DRG, etc. | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
good luck MK | ||
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Foreverkul
United States1649 Posts
On August 02 2014 09:04 tshi wrote: I agree. He should join a team with all those players who left their teams recently: ANUSTART_MKP, ANUSTART_DRG, etc. ANUSTART Oops? | ||
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Phredxor
New Zealand15076 Posts
Don't think you can really count ByuN until he is out of kespa jail | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Go watch Arrested Development | ||
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usopsama
6502 Posts
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dyDrawer
Canada438 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On August 02 2014 08:01 Darkhorse wrote: If I could make 50k a year playing a game I probably would. I would take it instantly. I don't make 50k a year currently lol This has been a bad year to be a popular player, MVP, MKP, DRG and Nestea all switching team. There isn't a SC2 fan in existence that isn't a fan of at least one of these guys. | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On August 02 2014 08:01 Darkhorse wrote: If I could make 50k a year playing a game I probably would. I meant that more of if prize money is the only money he's making, not the value itself. I'd absolutely love to do it too | ||
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Genome852
United States979 Posts
I will still call him MKP, maybe Foxer again. | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On August 02 2014 13:24 dsousa wrote: He should change his name back to Boxer again. Foxer ain't bad! | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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plogamer
Canada3132 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 02 2014 04:18 di4m0nd wrote: OK so I just did the math (well pretty much adding numbers :/) source - http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_Tournaments 2010 - 648,500 (does not include beta) 2011 - 2,239360 2012 - 2,784,890 2013 - 190,836 (Wol Winnings only) 2013 - 2,285,999 (HOTS Winnings only) 2014 - 2,281,175 so for the premier Tournaments there isnt really a huge decrease I cant say for the Major or minor tournaments. But all in all the money is still getting shoveled down sc2s throat. In 2010, $799,025 was awarded in prize money. In 2011, $3,052,851 was awarded in prize money. In 2012, $3,828,433 was awarded in prize money. In 2013, $3,415,332 was awarded in prize money. In 2014, $1,767,512 was awarded in prize money. In total, $12,866,780 was awarded in prize money. Source : Aligulac. MKP won : $195,928 If you add Sponsorship+Salaries, the kid has a good start in his life considering he is only 21, he didn't pay his travel expense and didn't had to pay for a living. | ||
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On August 02 2014 15:02 Faust852 wrote: In 2010, $799,025 was awarded in prize money. In 2011, $3,052,851 was awarded in prize money. In 2012, $3,828,433 was awarded in prize money. In 2013, $3,415,332 was awarded in prize money. In 2014, $1,767,512 was awarded in prize money. In total, $12,866,780 was awarded in prize money. Source : Aligulac. MKP won : $195,928 If you add Sponsorship+Salaries, the kid has a good start in his life considering he is only 21, he didn't pay his travel expense and didn't had to pay for a living. for 2014 is that's what has been awarded so far or for all tournaments that we know of even though they haven't happened? | ||
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 02 2014 15:10 NovemberstOrm wrote: for 2014 is that's what has been awarded so far or for all tournaments that we know of even though they haven't happened? What has been awarded so far imho, since the post that I quoted has a bigger number than Aligulac. He probably has counted all price pool, already earned or not. Edit : There is more than $1M in pending already haha. | ||
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DisillusionedAcronym
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
EG no longer seems interested in SC2, unless they have a chance at a huge name like Flash or Fantasy. But yeah, MarineKing and DRG are definitely the two hottest free agents at the moment. | ||
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meshfusion
Russian Federation232 Posts
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
On August 02 2014 15:19 dabom88 wrote: Kespa or Axiom would probably the only ones that could afford to send him to foreign events. EG no longer seems interested in SC2, unless they have a chance at a huge name like Flash or Fantasy. But yeah, MarineKing and DRG are definitely the two hottest free agents at the moment. Marinrking and DRG are definately in EGs boat for that. | ||
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Hds
France200 Posts
Sc2 was dying at the end of WoL already for me, Blizzard screwed this game's balance too hard, and now every mainstream players leave their team, Sc2 can't shine as bright as before with the new generation, there is no more hype | ||
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goody153
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weeA
India442 Posts
you will always be known as MKP | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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meshfusion
Russian Federation232 Posts
On August 02 2014 17:06 Hds wrote: Wtf people being sad about not calling him MKP anymore, "MK too weird and stuff", what about MarineKing? Stop going emo ffs Sc2 was dying at the end of WoL already for me, Blizzard screwed this game's balance too hard, and now every mainstream players leave their team, Sc2 can't shine as bright as before with the new generation, there is no more hype I agree with you. Nearly every friend that I knew that used to play/watch left during the end of the WoL era when it was like Top16 only ZvZs and never got back into it later on. It's a shame because when Blizzard doesn't do idiocies balance wise, it's a beautiful game | ||
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rafaliusz
Poland482 Posts
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Anacreor
Netherlands291 Posts
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5215 Posts
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
On August 02 2014 17:04 SC2Toastie wrote: Marinrking and DRG are definately in EGs boat for that. MK and DRG don't have anywhere near as much value as a Flash or Jaedong or Bisu or Stork or Fantasy. And EG are probably only interested in players with names as big as those right now. | ||
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On August 02 2014 20:52 dabom88 wrote: MK and DRG don't have anywhere near as much value as a Flash or Jaedong or Bisu or Stork or Fantasy. And EG are probably only interested in players with names as big as those right now. Lol, probably 100% of SC2 know of DRG and MKP. Maybe least the half know who is Bisu or Fantasy. | ||
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On August 02 2014 21:33 Faust852 wrote: Lol, probably 100% of SC2 know of DRG and MKP. Maybe least the half know who is Bisu or Fantasy. Yay, arbitrary numbers! | ||
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United States164 Posts
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Northern Ireland461 Posts
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Ljas
Finland725 Posts
On August 02 2014 22:29 mau5mat wrote: Can we all hold hands and pray that he goes to JIN AIR for that sick Prince/King combo Yeah, Jin Air is surely a team that will keep sending Marineking to foreign tournaments like he wants, right? | ||
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gneGne
Netherlands697 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
C'mon you know what I meant. MKP is emblematic for the terran race since 2010. Everyone who has look at the competitive scene just a bit know him. and DRG is the MKP for zerg. Bisu on the other hand is a total nobody for people who didn't watch BW. Fantasy almost never plays en SPL these day too so he's not that much popular for sc2 only people. Even Stork is more of a player only known by the elite. | ||
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F1nal
Germany216 Posts
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Foreverkul
United States1649 Posts
This is the best thing to happen to marine king, PRIME has been in sorry shape fore some time. Now marine king can be a champion again! | ||
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TheSayo182
Italy243 Posts
On August 02 2014 22:48 Ljas wrote: Yeah, Jin Air is surely a team that will keep sending Marineking to foreign tournaments like he wants, right? * LOL at 99.99% he will not join another kespa team, he said he want to win major foreign tournaments again and be a top player again Prime on facebook Today marks the end of an awesome ride as Lee Jung Hoon (이정훈), aka MarineKingPrime, leaves the team. He has only one or two year before entering the military and wants to try something different for the time he has left as a pro-gamer. Here is what GerrardPrime said about it : "For about 4 years, he did his best for the team, he trusted the team and i'm so thankful to him. PRIME could exist thanks to MarineKing. I wish we could do his new challenge together, but there was no way to hold him back as he sacrificed so much for the team, for such a long time. I hope he can reach new heights with the new change, i will always support MarineKing and PRIME will try hard to be worthy of making him come back." MKP intends to find a new a team that will help him enter tournaments easily. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On August 02 2014 23:56 Foreverkul wrote: None of you are marine king fans, you all just like to say "m k p" This is the best thing to happen to marine king, PRIME has been in sorry shape fore some time. Now marine king can be a champion again! emmmmmm kääiiiiiii peeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!! It's the best thing for him to happen, because he isn't on a level with the top Code S Koreans anymore. And now he can pick a team that allows him to rape foreigners and - as you say - maybe become a champion of something again. | ||
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TaShadan
Germany1971 Posts
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Foreverkul
United States1649 Posts
On August 03 2014 00:05 Big J wrote: emmmmmm kääiiiiiii peeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!! It's the best thing for him to happen, because he isn't on a level with the top Code S Koreans anymore. And now he can pick a team that allows him to rape foreigners and - as you say - maybe become a champion of something again. Not on the level of Code S? He was one of the best Terrans in proleague and barely didn't make it into code S losing to 2 people who advanced to Code S! You are clearly salty and jealous of real skill. | ||
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LightSpectra
United States1461 Posts
On August 03 2014 00:17 Foreverkul wrote: Not on the level of Code S? He was one of the best Terrans in proleague and barely didn't make it into code S losing to 2 people who advanced to Code S! You are clearly salty and jealous of real skill. You are mistaken; he barely didn't make it into Code A and slipped back into Code B. | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On August 02 2014 20:52 dabom88 wrote: MK and DRG don't have anywhere near as much value as a Flash or Jaedong or Bisu or Stork or Fantasy. And EG are probably only interested in players with names as big as those right now. Nobody gives fuck about Stork or Fantasy other than the korean scene though. DRG speaks way better english than those two and is much well known to the foreign scene. | ||
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Foreverkul
United States1649 Posts
On August 03 2014 00:23 LightSpectra wrote: You are mistaken; he barely didn't make it into Code A and slipped back into Code B. He lost vs two players that are now in code S, the qualifiers he played ended up being a code s group (effort, avenge) Hes obviously code s material just based on his overall performance. Not sure why anyone thinks he's not good, he is an icon of SC2 and forever a part of its history. | ||
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Ovid
United Kingdom948 Posts
On August 03 2014 00:23 LightSpectra wrote: You are mistaken; he barely didn't make it into Code A and slipped back into Code B. Something that has happened to flash also. | ||
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Pull
United States308 Posts
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CakeSauc3
United States1437 Posts
People just vastly underestimate the talent of players in Code B, Code A, and Proleague. The difference between Code S and Code B is marginal, except in the most extreme of exceptions. | ||
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F1nal
Germany216 Posts
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jackdr
Philippines85 Posts
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SkySC2
Germany303 Posts
On August 03 2014 02:44 jackdr wrote: MarineKing :/ nailed it ! | ||
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Shinespark
Chile843 Posts
I hope he at least joins a team that takes him to Dreamhack and stuff. | ||
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SkySC2
Germany303 Posts
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DreamR
United Kingdom168 Posts
imo regardles of how good he is, you cant compare him to flash in his current form.. the gap isnt that big, but there is a gap. | ||
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NexT_SC2
United States117 Posts
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Conut
Canada1026 Posts
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SamirDuran
Philippines894 Posts
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Tho, I will not stop calling him MKP, in my heart he will always be MKP. | ||
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mouzChase
Germany66 Posts
rly sad | ||
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
(i know i know, that was bad...) | ||
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Redrot
United States446 Posts
MY HEART | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On August 05 2014 00:45 Black Gun wrote: if skt1 picks him up... will he be named "sk mmmmh kay"? (i know i know, that was bad...) He and Fantasy can trade GG timing tactics while SKT1 continues to field only Zerg and Protoss. Maybe he can change his name back to Boxer, then real SlayerS_BoxeR returns as a player and all sorts of confusion breaks out. | ||
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eScaper-tsunami
Canada313 Posts
On August 03 2014 02:10 CakeSauc3 wrote: People just vastly underestimate the talent of players in Code B, Code A, and Proleague. The difference between Code S and Code B is marginal, except in the most extreme of exceptions. I think the difference between code B and code S ro32 is marginal but the difference between code S top 8 and code S ro32 is astronomical... | ||
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