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sjperera
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada349 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 13:42:31
July 29 2014 13:41 GMT
#1
Al Jazeera International, one of the largest growing premiere news outlets, just released a story on the growth of eSports. They cover a number of games but make a special mention of DOTA 2 and StarCraft 2, including reference to a documentary called "The Hax Life."

In the documentary "The Hax Life", a film that revolves around Starcraft players in Korea, a player describes how each pro-gamer must execute up to hundreds of actions per minute (APM) on the keyboard and mouse to win a game. "[APM] is an average rate on how quick your fingers move. It is a rate that shows how quick you can draw your picture in the game with a keyboard and mouse. To win a championship, it should be at least over 200, or in the lower 300s," he said.

ESports players are beginning to get the same legal footing as other professional athletes as well. The US issues the same visa to pro-gamers as they do to players of other professional sports. South Korean Starcraft player Kim Dong-hwan was given a five-year P-1A visa to play in the US. Canadian LoL gamer Danny Le managed to attain the same visa. Even a university in Illinois offers athletic scholarships to gamers.


To read the full piece, visit: http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2014/07/esports-scores-professional-status-dota2-lol-starcraft2-201472984449931363.html
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appletree
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark109 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 13:56:56
July 29 2014 13:56 GMT
#2
Full scale chills... Wonderful, just wonderful.
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aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
July 29 2014 13:59 GMT
#3
Woohoooo, We're finally starting to be accepted in main stream culture!

Party, Girls, Fame & Fortune :D these are good times to be a gamer
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Lumi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1616 Posts
July 29 2014 14:00 GMT
#4
Never heard of that documentary.. o_O
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Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 14:14:35
July 29 2014 14:13 GMT
#5
The network with reporters being held because of links with terrorists in egypt has recognised us!
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wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
July 29 2014 14:56 GMT
#6
On July 29 2014 23:13 Ovid wrote:
The network with reporters being held because of links with terrorists in egypt has recognised us!

Don't be hating on AJE. Unless you're really taking the claims of the Egyptian court system at face value

Anyway, it's pretty interesting, and a bit sad, how the e-sports spotlight has shifted over the past few years. I still remember this Economist article back in 2011 that hyped up SC2 like crazy
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EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 29 2014 15:43 GMT
#7
On July 29 2014 22:59 aka_star wrote:
Woohoooo, We're finally starting to be accepted in main stream culture!

Party, Girls, Fame & Fortune :D these are good times to be a gamer

great times! P retty much everything except the party, the girls, and the fortune :D
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 29 2014 15:45 GMT
#8
Hold on so we esports now?
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 29 2014 16:19 GMT
#9
they called DOTA a MOBA
oh no!
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
July 29 2014 16:33 GMT
#10
On July 30 2014 01:19 Paljas wrote:
they called DOTA a MOBA
oh no!

Shh don't tell those guys across the hyperlink.
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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
July 29 2014 16:37 GMT
#11
On July 30 2014 01:33 docvoc wrote:
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On July 30 2014 01:19 Paljas wrote:
they called DOTA a MOBA
oh no!

Shh don't tell those guys across the hyperlink.

I think most people gave up with that whole thing and have been forced to accept it.

It's nice to see this kind of exposure in any case, it'll be interesting to see how things develop in the future.
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LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
July 29 2014 16:40 GMT
#12
It is nice, but it has has nothing to do with "scoring professional status". Professional status is a registered sports organisation with all documents approved by country goverment. Like KeSpa does for example.
FlowOfIdeas
Profile Joined December 2013
30 Posts
July 29 2014 17:23 GMT
#13
Al Jazeera..well at least terrorists are recognizing esports.

User was temp banned for this post.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 29 2014 22:01 GMT
#14
Ran across the article today. Best-written "here's what esports are" article I've read yet. Especially in explaining the money side of things. Then again, it is AJE.
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BoggieMan
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
520 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 22:14:40
July 29 2014 22:11 GMT
#15
On July 30 2014 02:23 FlowOfIdeas wrote:
Al Jazeera..well at least terrorists are recognizing esports.

User was temp banned for this post.


They show Al jazeera on alot of middle eastern food places in Europe.
Its just an arabic news outlet.

This reminds me of a picture of a guy sporting a turban at gsl :D
Alot of the arabic people i know are very competitive - makes sense they show some interest.

EDIT: i meant a "Keffiyeh" not a turban, sorry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keffiyeh
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
July 29 2014 22:17 GMT
#16
That quote was from NaDa, by the way.



Here's the first of (I think 4) sections!
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Timmsh
Profile Joined July 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
July 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#17
This is cool news, I always considered Al Jazeera as a trustworthy and important news channel.
In the Netherlands they also tried to promote e-sports, in some important shows around here, but they always felt a bit awkward.
Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
July 29 2014 22:30 GMT
#18
To everyone who's mentioning the legitimacy of AJE: you must not know a damn thing about the media or how the world works... Please open your eyes and see how this actually is helpful, regardless of what political feelings you have to share.
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
July 29 2014 22:40 GMT
#19
Well, Al jazeera is one of the few, if not the only, trustworthy sources for news, so this is ok I guess
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 29 2014 23:47 GMT
#20
It changes nothing in reality. You would need stories like this running everywhere to actually gain anything.
fmod
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Cayman Islands330 Posts
July 30 2014 00:02 GMT
#21
Meh. This isn't the first time, these stories pop up sporadically every few month or so in newspapers/tv. I don't think we need mainstream acceptance or anything like that for ESPORTS.
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Roswell
Profile Joined November 2013
United States250 Posts
July 30 2014 00:21 GMT
#22
How is right clicking one unit for 83% of your 70 apm considered an "e-sport?" 20 million ppl watched the international... U guys stop.
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Shinta)
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1716 Posts
July 30 2014 00:26 GMT
#23
On July 30 2014 08:47 StarStruck wrote:
It changes nothing in reality. You would need stories like this running everywhere to actually gain anything.

Nah man, you're wrong. This article automatically puts SC2 into super star status. All players will soon sign multi million dollar contracts and the World Cup is going to replace soccer for SC2.
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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
July 30 2014 01:31 GMT
#24
why the fuck does nobody ever mention a mini documentary on wemade fox?

never knew the nada/moon keyboard thing was from an extended interview/look at wemade
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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
July 30 2014 01:41 GMT
#25
Why the al jazeera hate, I think they're pretty good. I enjoyed them until they disallowed usa stream
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nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
July 30 2014 02:54 GMT
#26
The CBC here in Canada ran a few news stories about E-sports around the time of TI4. My ears certainly perked up a little bit on my drive to work when I heard them talking about Twitch, Dota 2, and Esports on the radio. The prize money of TI4 alone is enough to grab some attention, but they went in depth to talk about streamers and how you can make a living of playing games or being an "e-sport personality."


Meh. This isn't the first time, these stories pop up sporadically every few month or so in newspapers/tv. I don't think we need mainstream acceptance or anything like that for ESPORTS.


Like Fmod was saying here, this isn't the first time I've seen/heard these types of stories in the main stream media. But they do seem to be appearing more frequently. Certainly doesn't hurt the scene any.
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19386 Posts
July 30 2014 03:47 GMT
#27
On July 30 2014 09:26 Shinta) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2014 08:47 StarStruck wrote:
It changes nothing in reality. You would need stories like this running everywhere to actually gain anything.

Nah man, you're wrong. This article automatically puts SC2 into super star status. All players will soon sign multi million dollar contracts and the World Cup is going to replace soccer for SC2.

SC1 and SC2 are full of professionals wether anyone writes about it or not. There are thousands of us who believe and live it every day. That being said, exposure is always nice.
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 05:03:08
July 30 2014 04:49 GMT
#28
I don't think that this article makes eSports professional. The people that work for hours every day to give thousands of people constant content, on the other hand, definitely do. Nevertheless, good article although I think it missed a few important points which have been mostly pointed out in this thread.
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