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Classic defeats Maru 4-2, reaches Code S finals - Page 2

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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2972 Posts
June 19 2014 07:36 GMT
#21
Another PvZ GSL Code S final

Not sure if I want soO to advance so it can be an SKT Team Kill in the end. Or maybe TRUE can just play spoiler and win it all.

But very bummed Maru lost.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
Parcelleus
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1662 Posts
June 19 2014 07:45 GMT
#22
OP should mention that Maru focussed on mid-game damage thats why his late game was run over. Classic bascially stopped Maru's style of play. Great series.
*burp*
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 19 2014 07:49 GMT
#23
On June 19 2014 16:13 Socup wrote:
Where can replays or VODs be watched without spending 20$ to subscribe to the TwitchTv version?

As far as I know, you can either watch the games being streamed live, or buy the season pass to watch the games. Neither is an acceptable option for me, so I just accept the fact that I'm not going to watch any GSL.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
June 19 2014 07:57 GMT
#24
imo that is just classic maru. so true.
dreamers
Profile Joined July 2012
Japan17 Posts
June 19 2014 08:02 GMT
#25
there is a way to get the streams for free that requires no sub and you get it right off twitch. but I like the GSL so i am not going to spread the way to do it.
Nico Nico
Geschan
Profile Joined September 2010
69 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 08:03:05
June 19 2014 08:02 GMT
#26
On June 19 2014 14:52 metzninja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 14:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 19 2014 14:45 Shellshock wrote:
so disappointed Maru didn't make it to the final to help his chances of making Blizzcon. going to need a good run next season


It's going to be really silly when WCS Korea is only going to be able to send a couple players to Blizzcon while the majority of the players make it through racking up foreign tournament kills.

I'm worried we're going to get another repeat of 2012 where the Korean reps just stomp through everyone. I hope that doesn't happen.


Following up on Shellbot's comment, wouldn't it be a travesty if Blizzcon was without Maru, soO and Soulkey? The most consistent terran and zergs from the hardest region having to miss out... urgh...

Time for them to venture out of Korea for the easy WCS Points.
Morrissey
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Germany55 Posts
June 19 2014 08:21 GMT
#27
silly that Classic won that waystaition game. Maru was ahead the entire time, but then classic just a-moved him to death.
MarineKingPrime forever
klup
Profile Joined May 2013
France612 Posts
June 19 2014 08:28 GMT
#28
On June 19 2014 17:02 Geschan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 14:52 metzninja wrote:
On June 19 2014 14:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 19 2014 14:45 Shellshock wrote:
so disappointed Maru didn't make it to the final to help his chances of making Blizzcon. going to need a good run next season


It's going to be really silly when WCS Korea is only going to be able to send a couple players to Blizzcon while the majority of the players make it through racking up foreign tournament kills.

I'm worried we're going to get another repeat of 2012 where the Korean reps just stomp through everyone. I hope that doesn't happen.


Following up on Shellbot's comment, wouldn't it be a travesty if Blizzcon was without Maru, soO and Soulkey? The most consistent terran and zergs from the hardest region having to miss out... urgh...

Time for them to venture out of Korea for the easy WCS Points.



Yeah WCS system is broken. When you see that GSL global championship(the only non WCS competition that gives WCS points in korea) is giving half the WCS points of an easy farm Dreamhack you understand why Blizzcon will be featuring only the likes of Jjakji, MC etc... that are good farmers. Blizzcon could transform into a total stomp made by the 1-3 WCS korea players going in it.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
June 19 2014 08:31 GMT
#29
On June 19 2014 16:49 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 16:13 Socup wrote:
Where can replays or VODs be watched without spending 20$ to subscribe to the TwitchTv version?

As far as I know, you can either watch the games being streamed live, or buy the season pass to watch the games. Neither is an acceptable option for me, so I just accept the fact that I'm not going to watch any GSL.


You can also watch them 2 weeks after season end on youtube, or through the korean android app
maru G5L pls
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
June 19 2014 10:31 GMT
#30
This is where i stop watching GSL until next season.Too much PvP and PvZ in these last 6 months.
Freelancer veteran
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
June 19 2014 10:33 GMT
#31
On June 19 2014 16:36 yoshi245 wrote:
Another PvZ GSL Code S final

Not sure if I want soO to advance so it can be an SKT Team Kill in the end. Or maybe TRUE can just play spoiler and win it all.

But very bummed Maru lost.

i haven't watched a gsl final since soulkey/innovation
i enjoy the road getting there, though
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 10:54:43
June 19 2014 10:42 GMT
#32
On June 19 2014 15:54 Ragnarork wrote:
Meh, there goes the chance of seeing a KR premier tournament won by a Terran. C'mon, it's been 2 years and a half for GSL, close to one year for OSL...

Props to Classic though, Maru is no joke in TvP.

the game is balanced, don't know what you are talking about

On June 19 2014 14:16 asdfOu wrote:
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On June 19 2014 14:10 FlyingSheeP wrote:
Protossed.

as expected...

...long before semifinals


btw Ragnarok I was just kidding, ofc i know what you mean. Warning, here comes some balance thoughts (again), if you don't wanna read it, then don't :
+ Show Spoiler +

But there are so many things that need to be looked at again by blizzard, that I don't balance whine anymore. No I don't mean the game is inbalanced in so many ways, but that some mechanics are clearly just stupid. Free Units(SH, BL), Warpin across the map (why not change the warpgate time to be longer then normal gateway time or so if you want to keep warpin in the game blizzard), the ammount of micro/macro and multiharass that is needed for the T compared to the deathball that marches towards the terran base, while toss just needs 2 templars for feedbacks and storms at home - the rest will be deald with by the warping in chargelots (talking mid/lategame here ofc). The tons of aggressive, easy to use but hard to defend openers (blink, oracle etc) a terran has to blindly prepare for because you can hide tech... and is then behind. Or the widow mine mechanics...
Every(!) race has some stupidity and I don't say ALL of the above is to be changed at once or so, but should be altered a bit. Also, but this is because I am no Korean Pro, I'd like to see a sort of delay before storm. A small red dot or aerea at the area where the storms will hit just a fracture of a second before it hits just like you see the fungals incoming or the EMPs.
Also I don't get why there aren't more players using banelingdrops or more stormdrops. They can do crazy ammount of damage. And why we never see some drop harass by zerg or toss and load back in units. Not worth it I guess.
covetousrat
Profile Joined October 2010
2109 Posts
June 19 2014 10:53 GMT
#33
Gogo Classic!!
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
June 19 2014 11:02 GMT
#34
On June 19 2014 17:28 klup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 17:02 Geschan wrote:
On June 19 2014 14:52 metzninja wrote:
On June 19 2014 14:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 19 2014 14:45 Shellshock wrote:
so disappointed Maru didn't make it to the final to help his chances of making Blizzcon. going to need a good run next season


It's going to be really silly when WCS Korea is only going to be able to send a couple players to Blizzcon while the majority of the players make it through racking up foreign tournament kills.

I'm worried we're going to get another repeat of 2012 where the Korean reps just stomp through everyone. I hope that doesn't happen.


Following up on Shellbot's comment, wouldn't it be a travesty if Blizzcon was without Maru, soO and Soulkey? The most consistent terran and zergs from the hardest region having to miss out... urgh...

Time for them to venture out of Korea for the easy WCS Points.



Yeah WCS system is broken. When you see that GSL global championship(the only non WCS competition that gives WCS points in korea) is giving half the WCS points of an easy farm Dreamhack you understand why Blizzcon will be featuring only the likes of Jjakji, MC etc... that are good farmers. Blizzcon could transform into a total stomp made by the 1-3 WCS korea players going in it.

There will be a Tier1 "Kespa-tournament" (weekend-tourney) with 80k prizemoney. Sadly no 100k for $o$
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Sidhoum
Profile Joined December 2012
France21 Posts
June 19 2014 11:05 GMT
#35
On June 19 2014 19:42 Rollora wrote:

Also I don't get why there aren't more players using banelingdrops or more stormdrops. They can do crazy ammount of damage. And why we never see some drop harass by zerg or toss and load back in units. Not worth it I guess.


Why bother ? You do not need to do that in order to win.
K-BOOM BABY !
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
June 19 2014 11:12 GMT
#36
On June 19 2014 20:05 Sidhoum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 19:42 Rollora wrote:

Also I don't get why there aren't more players using banelingdrops or more stormdrops. They can do crazy ammount of damage. And why we never see some drop harass by zerg or toss and load back in units. Not worth it I guess.


Why bother ? You do not need to do that in order to win.

that is my problem here:
You don't need to to everything possible to secure the win. Save some minerals and maybe gas? No just drop and don't care anymore.
Maybe the race is designed that way, or maybe I am over-sensitive on that topic because I started as terran (switched) and there you have to watch your drops or you lose them, if you lose them you lose lots of resources and time to rebuild army again (which you don't have).
So why is it not needed to save units, to multitask for that drop (it can do so much, let alone distract the opponent)? As you said, it is not needed in order to win, but is it because blizzard designed the game that way and you don't have the spare apm for that as Z or P or is it because the races aren't needed to be played to the limit to win. Which again, would state to some balance problems here
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-19 12:00:22
June 19 2014 11:59 GMT
#37
On June 19 2014 20:05 Sidhoum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 19:42 Rollora wrote:

Also I don't get why there aren't more players using banelingdrops or more stormdrops. They can do crazy ammount of damage. And why we never see some drop harass by zerg or toss and load back in units. Not worth it I guess.


Why bother ? You do not need to do that in order to win.


HerO tried it against Taeja and lost a bunch of high energy HTs to a viking. He lost the game soon after that. A few storms would have saved him if he had kept the templar for the main army.
Salient
Profile Joined August 2011
United States876 Posts
June 19 2014 12:05 GMT
#38
On June 19 2014 20:12 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2014 20:05 Sidhoum wrote:
On June 19 2014 19:42 Rollora wrote:

Also I don't get why there aren't more players using banelingdrops or more stormdrops. They can do crazy ammount of damage. And why we never see some drop harass by zerg or toss and load back in units. Not worth it I guess.


Why bother ? You do not need to do that in order to win.

that is my problem here:
You don't need to to everything possible to secure the win. Save some minerals and maybe gas? No just drop and don't care anymore.
Maybe the race is designed that way, or maybe I am over-sensitive on that topic because I started as terran (switched) and there you have to watch your drops or you lose them, if you lose them you lose lots of resources and time to rebuild army again (which you don't have).
So why is it not needed to save units, to multitask for that drop (it can do so much, let alone distract the opponent)? As you said, it is not needed in order to win, but is it because blizzard designed the game that way and you don't have the spare apm for that as Z or P or is it because the races aren't needed to be played to the limit to win. Which again, would state to some balance problems here


Warp Prism harass is very common. The chargelots aren't very microable (melee). So it's similar to a ling runby.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
June 19 2014 12:15 GMT
#39
Gogo classic! SKT final please
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Deleted User 261926
Profile Joined April 2012
960 Posts
June 19 2014 13:11 GMT
#40
Because you pay 200/200 for the worst dropping mechanism in the game. Only a moron would not react on time against a slow dropship carrying 4 supply of lings/banes. Yes, it is true that you can do huge doomdrops but you need 1 ovy per 4 supply of lingbane and that also means that the drop rate is very slow (0.5 supply/instance). Dont act like z dont use them because they are lazy. They are just a shitty gimmick....... MAYBE roach drops vs mech are decent sometimes.
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