Code A qualifers: Flash, INnoVation, and others advance, C…

On March 27 2014 05:22 Canucklehead wrote:


Actually, I think college sports is one of the best examples because I do agree with you that the NCAA is corrupt and have archaic and dumb rules that allows them to make millions off the backs of unpaid athletes. It's the perfect example of the power they wield like Kespa. However, given all that the NCAA will still sanction coaches who go over the line. I'm not saying Kespa will never sanction people either, but it has to be very egregious, such as match fixing, etc.

Also, I would lean more to the CJ side if the players were actually missing PL games since the players are primarily contracted for PL, so I applaud teams letting players go to IEM, etc. I still think it should be on a case by case basis and how important that tourney would be to the player, but I'm willing to say the team's have the right for players not to miss PL matches if they so choose. However, in this case the players won't be missing any games and will only miss half a day to a day of practice at most.

I think it's not exactly the same as players in sports going to national teams because they're going to represent their country and not their individual glory. SC2 is always tricky to compare to sports at times because while PL is a team league, SC2 is at its core an individual game, like tennis, golf, etc. Those players only represent themselves, except for specific team/country tournaments where they play under a team. Problem is there's not enough money in esports for sc2 players to be like tennis and golf players. In an ideal esports world, all sc2 players would be like polt, white ra and grubby.

I do admit to siding with players in esports more just because of the money factor. If PL players were getting paid millions then I would probably have less sympathy. The boston bruins let Zdeno Chara miss 2 regular season games to be the flag bearer for slovakia. I wouldn't really have a problem if the bruins didn't let him do that as he's paid to play in the NHL. Also, my viewpoint comes primary from watching NA sports where the issue of leaving the local team for the national team mid season doesn't really come up unlike in soccer and stuff, so it's not something I've thought about strongly on who is right and wrong there.

I like to use sports examples because it's common to do so, but admit the comparisons are not always valid and comparable due to the vast economic differences that exist b/w esports and professional sports. Also, another primary difference being players have no power in esports as there's no players association. It's a very unbalanced level of power, that I don't see changing any time soon because the time and money needed to establish a players association is not realistic. Then you have the prob of all the leagues throughout the world needing to agree with each other and listen to a players association.

Sports don't have that problem because the leagues are their own entity. While esports leagues/tourneys are their own entity as well, it's a bit different as there's no player exclusivity with those tourneys apart from Riot and the LCS. Like the NHLPA looks out for players in the NHL. Not for players in the KHL or swedish elite league, etc. The NHL can then form agreements with other leauges like the KHL like respecting each other's contracts and not poach each other's players. It's all a very complex process when you're talking about multiple leagues/tourneys in esports, which I don't think would be solved any time soon due to the economic realities of esports.

On March 27 2014 22:54 TW wrote:
Code A
19 P
9 T
20 Z

In qualifiers:
Inno lost to ByuL
Fantasy lost to Shine
Flash lost to Armani

What's gonna happen if they face Soulkey, Roro etc?

I wont be surprised if we start Code S with 3 Terran players after Code A. Ridiculous.

On March 27 2014 11:44 -Celestial- wrote:


Case of BW-tinted glasses here I think. Simply put Proleague may have been all-important in BW but it lacks the significance of GSL as far as SC2 goes. It doesn't have the same history in the newer game and the consequently attached prestige that comes with that. That isn't to say its not an important tournament however.



Some additional thoughts to my earlier comments: Can't help but feel this will turn out to be a massive mistake. You have more chance of keeping in the bigger leagues once you're already in. Missing out on one of the opportunities to get in there, especially with so few GSLs per year now, is a pretty big deal.