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SPL R2 - The MVP Resurgence/Week 4 Recap

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SKPlanet PRoleague

Most Valuable Players:
Round 2, Week 4 Recap

By: Waxangel

Forget that Jin Air became the first team to clinch a Round 2 playoff spot despite both sOs and Rogue going off to chase $100,000 in Poland. The truly impressive thing that happened in Week 4 was Team MVP sweeping two teams to stay in the playoff race.

Last round, MVP were competing with Prime to avoid finishing in dead last. This round, with the exact same roster, MVP has defeated all four of the playoff teams from Round 1 and has a chance to qualify for the playoffs as the #2 team.* That's not just a huge turnaround. That's an insane turnaround.

Before we continue talking about team MVP, let's take a look at what happened in Week 4:

*MVP can't overtake Jin Air because they have received more warnings.


Round 2 Standings
1.Jin Air5-217-10+7
2.MVP4-214-10+4
3.KT3-213-10+3
4.CJ3-210-9+1
5.SKT3-311-110
6.IM2-410-13-3
7.Prime2-411-15-4
8.Samsung2-59-17-8
Results and standings on Liquipedia
Videos on Youtube

March 16


MVP (3 - 0) Jin Air Green Wings
(P)Billowy < Sejong Station > (P)Terminator
(Z)DongRaeGu < Outboxer > (T)Cure
(P)Super < Polar Night LE > (P)Pigbaby
(T)KeeN < Yeonsu LE > (T)Maru

Samsung Galaxy (1 - 3) Prime
(T)Reality < The King Sejong Station > (P)Choya
(P)Hurricane < Outboxer > (P)Creator
(Z)RorO < Polar Night LE > (T)MarineKing
(P)Stork < Yeonsu LE > (T)eins

March 17


KT Rolster (3 - 0) SK Telecom T1
(P)Zest < Frost LE > (Z)Soulkey
(T)TY < Yeonsu LE > (T)BrAvO
(T)Flash < Outboxer > (P)Rain
(P)Stats < Polar Night LE > (T)FanTaSy


Incredible Miracle (1 - 3) CJ Entus
(P)YongHwa < The King Sejong Station > (Z)Hydra
(Z)ByuL < Outboxer > (T)Bbyong
(P)Trap < Polar Night LE > (Z)EffOrt
(P)Squirtle < Yeonsu LE > (P)Hush (Bong)

March 18


Jin Air Green Wings (3 - 2) Prime
(T)Maru < Habitation Station LE > (Z)KassiA
(T)Cure < Polar Night LE > (P)Creator
(Z)TRUE < Yeonsu LE > (T)MarineKing
(P)Terminator < Outboxer > (Z)DeParture
Ace: (T)Maru < Frost LE > (P)Creator

MVP (3 - 0) Samsung Galaxy
(T)Dream < Polar Night LE > (Z)Shine
(T)KeeN < Habitation Station LE > (P)Hurricane
(P)Super < Frost LE > (Z)Solar
(Z)DongRaeGu < The King Sejong Station > (Z)RorO

Neat Things That Happened in Week 4


  • Jin Air clinched a playoff berth: With a 1-1 record on the week, Jin Air finished Round 2 with a 5-2 record. While it was enough to give them a guaranteed playoff berth, their final seeding will depend on how the other teams perform in week 5.

  • Samsung Galaxy was eliminated from playoff contention: With losses to MVP and Prime, the 7th and 8th place teams from Round 1, Samsung were eliminated from playoff contention. Samsung are also guaranteed to finish in last place unless Prime can rack up an absurd amount of penalty points in week five. Barring Prime signing FireCake as a surprise acquisition in the next two days, it probably won't happen.

  • KT Rolster won the telecom derby, again: SK Telecom fans might want to skip over this section. KT Rolster is now 3-0 against rivals SK Telecom in the 2014 season of Proleague, defeating them in the Round 1 regular season, the round 1 Playoffs, most recently in the Round 2 regular season, Their combined map score over those three wins? 10-1. Owch.

  • CJ Entus are lurking around: Even with herO busy losing $100,000 in Poland, CJ Entus were able to pull out an important win against IM to keep their fourth place spot. With two games remaining on their schedule, they are even in position to steal the #2 spot if they play well.

  • MarineKing went 2-0: MarineKing had his best week in Proleague yet, taking two wins against strong opponents in (Z)RorO and (Z)TRUE. Four weeks in and he's already challenging Creator for the ace position on Prime.


The Resurgence of Team MVP

by Waxangel

It feels a little bit early to start proclaiming things like "MVP IS BACK!" After all, they're not 100% guaranteed a playoff spot yet (though they're pretty close). But hell, what they've done so far in round two is pretty damn amazing and worth musing about at length.

Hindsight: Not an absolutely abysmal Round 1

MVP came into the 2014 season of Proleague as a mystery team. Traditional powerhouses of the GSTL, they had placed 2nd place in their last GSTL tournament before switching allegiance to KeSPA. Even with the retirement of (Z)NAKSEO and (P)duckdeok, the MVP roster of (Z)DongRaeGu, (T)Dream, (T)KeeN, (P)Swagger, (P)Billowy, (P)Super, (Z)Shine, (P)TAiLS and (Z)Sniper was a deep and well-rounded one, seemingly capable of overwhelming top-heavy but shallower teams. Even in the GSTL days, many fans wondered how MVP's depth would work for them if they could play in a Proleague format.

On the other hand, MVP came in with a glaring weakness in the lack of a reliable ace player. DongRaeGu had been a player who could almost single-handedly carry the team in 2011-2012, but the release of HotS had made him a shadow of his former self. Super had been fantastic as a replacement ace in MVP's last GSTL season in 2013, but he had also declined sharply since then. It was not pleasant to think about what would happen in a game five situation against a Flash or Rain.

In addition, it was questionable as to whether or not MVP's vaunted depth would mean anything in 2014. MVP's veteran roster of players had been Code S Ro32 and Ro16 regulars in the past, but there was every possibility that they would be surpassed by the KeSPA rank and file as the season went along.

How far could this collection of good-but-not-great players to go? Just beyond last place, apparently.

A 0-3 loss to SK Telecom T1 set the tone for team MVP's Round 1, and they finished in seventh place with a dismal 1-6 record. MVP only avoided last place by beating the eventual last place team Prime, who managed to somehow put in an even more saddening Round 1 performance.

Yet, as tragic as it was to watch MVP flop from week to week, in hindsight it wasn't ALL bad. That's not to deny that 7th place was a poor finish, or that we could have predicted their drastic Round 2 turnaround. However, there was a silver lining that suggested they could be at least somewhat better: MVP was the only team in round one to lose three ace matches. Here's how they went:

  • vs CJ Entus: Super got killed by herO's proxy gate (funny in hindsight).
  • vs KT Rolster: DongRaeGu's swarm hosts lost to Flash's mech after a very closely fought game (VOD).
  • vs Jin Air: Super's sloppy play was mercilessly punished by Maru's hyper-aggressive attacks.

DRG still managed to fight a very close, very winnable ace match against Flash. If he had somehow won, MVP would have finished in 6th place ahead of CJ, and their Round 1 result wouldn't look quite as bad. And while it's a stretch to say that Super could have won against Maru given his play, his defensive micro against herO made you think he could have won if he had scouted out the proxy.

Who knows? If MVP had caught a few breaks, they could have finished in the middle of the table.

The Round 2 resurgence

MVP has caught a few of those breaks in Round 2. For instance, when they faced SKT in Round 2, DRG overcame a huge build order disadvantage in his ace match against Soulkey due to uncharacteristically passive from the SKT Zerg. But catching a few breaks alone doesn't take you from 1-6 to 4-2. Across the board, everyone just got better.

Most importantly, Super and DongRaeGu – the key duo that led MVP place second place in their final GSTL before leaving eSF – are playing like strong ace players again. Even if they're not playing on the level of one-man wrecking crews like Maru, they've combined for a very solid 8-5 overall record and have gone 2-1 in ace matches.

As for the bench (players besides DRG and Super), some of the fears have been realized. No one on the team except DRG was able to make it Code S season, the rest being edged out instead by a rapidly improving KeSPA players. Yet, in Proleague, they are actually improving and living up to their reputation as a solid bunch. After going 6-12 in Round 1, they've improved to a significantly better 6-5 in Round 2.

Altogether, MVP's old GSTL strategy of "Soften 'em up with four guys and clean up with an ace" has become viable again. They've even been able to take their last two games in straight 3-0 sweeps, crushing both Jin Air and Samsung.

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DongRaeGu has forgotten what do with his tongue when winning.

Trying to make sense of it all

To be honest, it's hard to explain what is going on with Team MVP. The current format of Proleague is one of the most volatile ever, featuring the least games, the least teams, and the shortest series in a very long time. MVP isn't the only team creating shocking results: Samsung Galaxy have followed the reverse pattern by starting Round 1 strong and crumbling catastrophically.

And while it's entirely possible that this is all due to variance, at least our subjective viewing of team MVP's games suggests that the quality of everyone's play has improved. From improved decision making to the reduction of unforced errors, and just cleaner micro all-around, the MVP players don't look like they're being outclassed anymore.

One reason could simply be that they've acclimatized to the environment. That means getting used to playing in a new studio, getting used to the kind of practice that goes into preparing for just one map, and getting back into a rhythm after having had no competitive league to play in for several months (after GSTL ended, some of the MVP bench players might have had five official matches to play in five months).

Or maybe getting humiliated in round 1 simply motivated them to practice harder during the long break/playoff period between rounds. While some players like Flash will attest that it takes months to truly improve, anecdotal evidence from other players suggests that "cramming" really does work.

In any case, it's been a crazy month for team MVP. They are sitting at #2 on the table and might even preserve that position into the playoffs (the week 5 combinatorics are very complex). If that happens, they will return to the all-kill format of play that they have excelled at for years. If all of the progress we have seen in the past four weeks is real, then they will be a R2 championship contender. If not... well, at least we got to enjoy a great ride in Round 2.



Week 5 preview coming tomorrow!

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Writers: Waxangel
Images: SpoTV
Editors: Waxangel
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Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
March 21 2014 21:11 GMT
#2
No special mention to eins beating Stork? ewww
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
March 21 2014 21:13 GMT
#3
Love me some MVP victories, and some DRG victory-tongue.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 21 2014 21:19 GMT
#4
Please, everyone knows MVP's winning because of Coach Swagger!
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MrVideo
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland132 Posts
March 21 2014 21:25 GMT
#5
Wouldn't MVP overtake JAG Wings if they manage to 3-0 Entus? They would have the same maps won/lost, but MVP did beat them this round.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 21:29:37
March 21 2014 21:29 GMT
#6
On March 22 2014 06:25 MrVideo wrote:
Wouldn't MVP overtake JAG Wings if they manage to 3-0 Entus? They would have the same maps won/lost, but MVP did beat them this round.


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Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33488 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 21:30:50
March 21 2014 21:30 GMT
#7
On March 22 2014 06:25 MrVideo wrote:
Wouldn't MVP overtake JAG Wings if they manage to 3-0 Entus? They would have the same maps won/lost, but MVP did beat them this round.


H2H doesn't factor into Proleague rankings. Jin Air wins their tiebreak on having less warning/penalties (stuff given out for being late to studio, improper pausing of game, etC)
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Ireland132 Posts
March 21 2014 21:30 GMT
#8
On March 22 2014 06:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 06:25 MrVideo wrote:
Wouldn't MVP overtake JAG Wings if they manage to 3-0 Entus? They would have the same maps won/lost, but MVP did beat them this round.


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mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
March 21 2014 21:32 GMT
#9
Lol that DRG tongue. Great article and happy to see that DRG and his boys are doing well. He is such a character
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myxoma_strain
Profile Joined December 2013
United Kingdom371 Posts
March 21 2014 21:46 GMT
#10
Thanks for glossing over samsung this round, I don't think I could have taken any more
Ctesias
Profile Joined December 2012
4595 Posts
March 21 2014 21:48 GMT
#11
I really enjoy stories like these. The ups and downs of teams are a great part of what makes this game fun to follow.

Also, KT best KT.
Flash | Mvp
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
March 21 2014 22:26 GMT
#12
The rise of Prime and MVP sucks for my FPL. Had a lot of points, and Super + MKP on anti.
Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 23:35:52
March 21 2014 22:28 GMT
#13
I'm surprised to see the SKT players doing so badly. On paper, their team is ridiculously strong.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 21 2014 22:32 GMT
#14
We all know mvp is winning because they're fighting over beds again
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
March 21 2014 22:39 GMT
#15
I have been getting super lucky with my Zerg's in FPL so far in round 1 and 2. I scooped up Byul in round 1, and I scooped up DRG in round 2 and both have been key players on my teams as I have turned that luck from the Zerg's into the same if not more BAD luck for my Anti team's picking TY round 1 and Creator round 2... both the highest scoring players in each round lol. So ya if I can eliminate the anti-team blunders I think I have a shot contending for round 3 FPL title

Nice write up though guys! Looking forward to seeing how this round plays out, hoping CJ can make it into the playoffs! I like their chances in an all-kill format.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 21 2014 23:00 GMT
#16
I was pretty surprised MKP was able to take out either one of these zergs this week as neither one is weak or anything like that. RorO has actually been having a really good proleague season and TRUE is no slouch. I figured he would go 0-2 this week. What's even kind of crazy to think was that he was arguably 2 bad engagements away from possibly being 6-1 instead of 4-3. Think if he hadn't suicided into Bunny's tank line or taken a better engagement against Rain in the ace match where he had the lead. I know his opponents have made a lot of mistakes too so MKP's record could definitely be worse than 4-3 as well but 6-1 would have been sick.
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United States23455 Posts
March 21 2014 23:11 GMT
#17
DAE remember when Templar doubted my predictions?
On February 02 2014 04:16 The_Templar wrote:
Also seriously, Samsung in 7th below MVP and CJ?
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United States976 Posts
March 22 2014 01:12 GMT
#18
I feel so bad for SKT1. Ever since the Head Coach was poached for their LOL team, they've been doing poorly.
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United States976 Posts
March 22 2014 01:12 GMT
#19
On March 22 2014 07:28 Urth wrote:
I'm surprised to see the SKT players doing so badly. On paper, there team is ridiculously strong.

Head coach got poached by their LOL team.
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 22 2014 02:36 GMT
#20
On March 22 2014 08:11 Darkhorse wrote:
DAE remember when Templar doubted my predictions?
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2014 04:16 The_Templar wrote:
Also seriously, Samsung in 7th below MVP and CJ?

Overall, still doubt it
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 22 2014 02:39 GMT
#21
I'm pretty sour mvp can't be ranked #1 because of too many warnings.
Vasoline73
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United States7816 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-22 11:06:23
March 22 2014 11:05 GMT
#22
KT going to take number 1 again...
MiniFotToss
Profile Joined December 2013
China2430 Posts
March 22 2014 18:08 GMT
#23
On March 22 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 08:11 Darkhorse wrote:
DAE remember when Templar doubted my predictions?
On February 02 2014 04:16 The_Templar wrote:
Also seriously, Samsung in 7th below MVP and CJ?

Overall, still doubt it

EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 22 2014 23:48 GMT
#24
This is the MVP I was expecting last round.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 23 2014 00:12 GMT
#25
On March 23 2014 08:48 StarStruck wrote:
This is the MVP I was expecting last round.

Yep, watching them flounder when they have such a powerful roster was painful
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
March 23 2014 03:17 GMT
#26
On March 23 2014 03:08 MiniFotToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
On March 22 2014 08:11 Darkhorse wrote:
DAE remember when Templar doubted my predictions?
On February 02 2014 04:16 The_Templar wrote:
Also seriously, Samsung in 7th below MVP and CJ?

Overall, still doubt it

EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So mean.
I knew CJ was going to flop and MVP isn't a particularly good team in any korean league. (They have DRG… and DRG, and either Sniper or Super). I also thought it was a BO7 format like last year.
At the same time, Samsung has a lot of promising players, headed by GSL champion RorO, so I figured they would develop a lot as the season went on and climb up into the top half eventually.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
March 23 2014 03:28 GMT
#27
On March 23 2014 12:17 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 03:08 MiniFotToss wrote:
On March 22 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
On March 22 2014 08:11 Darkhorse wrote:
DAE remember when Templar doubted my predictions?
On February 02 2014 04:16 The_Templar wrote:
Also seriously, Samsung in 7th below MVP and CJ?

Overall, still doubt it

EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MVP isn't a particularly good team in any korean league.

Bite your tongue.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 23 2014 03:47 GMT
#28
On March 23 2014 12:17 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 03:08 MiniFotToss wrote:
On March 22 2014 11:36 The_Templar wrote:
On March 22 2014 08:11 Darkhorse wrote:
DAE remember when Templar doubted my predictions?
On February 02 2014 04:16 The_Templar wrote:
Also seriously, Samsung in 7th below MVP and CJ?

Overall, still doubt it

EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So mean.
I knew CJ was going to flop and MVP isn't a particularly good team in any korean league. (They have DRG… and DRG, and either Sniper or Super). I also thought it was a BO7 format like last year.
At the same time, Samsung has a lot of promising players, headed by GSL champion RorO, so I figured they would develop a lot as the season went on and climb up into the top half eventually.


MVP is historically one of the better teams when it comes to team leagues, they've made like 3 gstl finals among other accomplishments.

Also, you forgot Dream and Keen.
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