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JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 16:42:07
March 23 2014 16:39 GMT
#701
On March 24 2014 01:37 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:30 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:24 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:00 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:57 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:40 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:12 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:11 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:01 JSK wrote:
So ridiculous that people are upset about this in any way. Stop judging others using your own life experience. None of you are pros at his level, are you? No, just armchair starcraft pros playing at being professionals. And yes, I'm quite aware of the vitriolic rage about to be spewed at me by the exceedingly self-righteous posters of this forum.

He shouldn't have probe rushed. He shouldn't have quit. He shouldn't have done many of the things he did. But there's a 33 page thread written about him, and not about a single one of you. So suck it up and be great yourselves or stop spewing bullshit. It's sickening.

I guess to some people like you, having a 33 page of thread is a sign of greatness.

But I won't say that if most people in the thread are hating on him and I think it says more than enough about his reputation.

I guess in a sense its an achievement lol



It's not a sign of greatness. His achievements and status as arguably the best or one of the best foreigners to ever play the game is a sign of greatness. He has an attitude problem, but so do you. Instead of living your life for yourself you live vicariously through others, like a parasite - and criticize them when they fail. And yet you achieve very little for yourself. What Naniwa has achieved is more than you could ever dream of no doubt? I'm sorry if that hurts, but if you reply to my thoughts with some childish one-liners, then you'll just have to deal with it. Tell me what you have ever done that warrants recognition? Please, do tell. I fully recognize that you very well could be doing something significant, but until you prove it, your attitude makes you an armchair quarterback and nothing more.

? That doesn't give him an immune status for me to critize lol

My achievement is that I actually saved a person's job because his passport somehow was sent to my address by the UK visa border control and I tracked down his location and mail it back to him and apparently he almost lost his dream job because he had no passport to travel back for interview.

I personally think my achievement is pretty impressive since I am achieving good for others.

And you are wrong.
Naniwa achievement to me, worth very little because I am not interested in becoming big in programing.
My dream is a lot bigger to me, may not be to you or anyone else.


Your greatest achievement is that you returned a lost passport? I do not know how to reply to this without at least some measure of sarcasm. Naniwa's achievements may be worth very little to you, and at least you realize that this is relative - but come on man. You remind me of people who buy the tabloids in the grocery store checkout aisle.

Yea, well Iike I said, it doesn't give him immunity for anyone to critize.

naniwa is probably like a superstar to you, I guess like a child who looks up to a soccer superstar?

One day you will realize there are other aspects in humanity that isnt about achieving high in measurable context.

My achievement is my proudest one because another person would have lost his job which he hunted for months.
Without my help another person would have lost his dream.

Sorry but I do regard my achievement pretty important to me since it shows a lot of what kind of person I am and I am proud of who I am.

On the other hand, naniwa selfishness and lack of responsibility etc makes him the last person I would want to be and his achievement will never be enough to turn him into a person I won't critize.



Hahaha, I've upset you? I guess so, judging by the ad-hominems. And by the fact that you clearly didn't even read what I wrote- you're so consumed with trying to prove to me that you're right. No one in their right mind could think Naniwa is a superstar to me if they'd read what I wrote about him. Namely, that he is a quitter, has attitude problems, and that I have al ow opinion of him. I literally wrote that within the last page, but you didn't bother to look, did you? In my opinion, that makes you all the more pathetic.

I'm glad that you realize that human achievements are all relative, but this isn't about me or what I will "one day" realize. (lmao)

Naniwa is the last person you would want to be? Wow. Just wow.

I am more confused than upset.

First I am told I can't critize him because his achievement is "higher" means we can't critize him.

Then you told me you are glad that achievements are all "relative".

But previously you were the one to say we should not critize due to him being one of the best foreigner and achieved higher than us.
And yet you also critize him being a quitter and should not have done X and y.
But at the same time you find it ridicous that people are upset about his actions, actions that you don't support either?

What?


Please find and quote to me where I EVER said that people can't criticize him. Oh wait - I never said that. Again, nice try with the straw man. Especially given all the criticisms of him that I listed myself?

. I don't support his actions, but I don't go on a forum crusade against him. I'm not sure what you're confused about - this isn't about me or Naniwa. I'm just of the opinion that it's pathetic for you to judge him. You can criticize him, and I can criticize you for criticizing him. Get it? It's a two way street, be a grown up about it please.


"Stop judging others using your own life experience."

I think that's the line people are having issues with. You telling them to stop judging.


That's too bad cause I'll say it again : stop judging. sorry if you have issues with that buddy
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
March 23 2014 16:40 GMT
#702
staph judging people who are judging other people.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
March 23 2014 16:42 GMT
#703
So.. the takeaway is that we can judge/criticize Naniwa, you can call us out on it, and we can ignore you on it, yes?
Yargh
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12504 Posts
March 23 2014 16:43 GMT
#704
On March 24 2014 01:30 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:24 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:00 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:57 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:40 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:12 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:11 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:01 JSK wrote:
So ridiculous that people are upset about this in any way. Stop judging others using your own life experience. None of you are pros at his level, are you? No, just armchair starcraft pros playing at being professionals. And yes, I'm quite aware of the vitriolic rage about to be spewed at me by the exceedingly self-righteous posters of this forum.

He shouldn't have probe rushed. He shouldn't have quit. He shouldn't have done many of the things he did. But there's a 33 page thread written about him, and not about a single one of you. So suck it up and be great yourselves or stop spewing bullshit. It's sickening.

I guess to some people like you, having a 33 page of thread is a sign of greatness.

But I won't say that if most people in the thread are hating on him and I think it says more than enough about his reputation.

I guess in a sense its an achievement lol



It's not a sign of greatness. His achievements and status as arguably the best or one of the best foreigners to ever play the game is a sign of greatness. He has an attitude problem, but so do you. Instead of living your life for yourself you live vicariously through others, like a parasite - and criticize them when they fail. And yet you achieve very little for yourself. What Naniwa has achieved is more than you could ever dream of no doubt? I'm sorry if that hurts, but if you reply to my thoughts with some childish one-liners, then you'll just have to deal with it. Tell me what you have ever done that warrants recognition? Please, do tell. I fully recognize that you very well could be doing something significant, but until you prove it, your attitude makes you an armchair quarterback and nothing more.

? That doesn't give him an immune status for me to critize lol

My achievement is that I actually saved a person's job because his passport somehow was sent to my address by the UK visa border control and I tracked down his location and mail it back to him and apparently he almost lost his dream job because he had no passport to travel back for interview.

I personally think my achievement is pretty impressive since I am achieving good for others.

And you are wrong.
Naniwa achievement to me, worth very little because I am not interested in becoming big in programing.
My dream is a lot bigger to me, may not be to you or anyone else.


Your greatest achievement is that you returned a lost passport? I do not know how to reply to this without at least some measure of sarcasm. Naniwa's achievements may be worth very little to you, and at least you realize that this is relative - but come on man. You remind me of people who buy the tabloids in the grocery store checkout aisle.

Yea, well Iike I said, it doesn't give him immunity for anyone to critize.

naniwa is probably like a superstar to you, I guess like a child who looks up to a soccer superstar?

One day you will realize there are other aspects in humanity that isnt about achieving high in measurable context.

My achievement is my proudest one because another person would have lost his job which he hunted for months.
Without my help another person would have lost his dream.

Sorry but I do regard my achievement pretty important to me since it shows a lot of what kind of person I am and I am proud of who I am.

On the other hand, naniwa selfishness and lack of responsibility etc makes him the last person I would want to be and his achievement will never be enough to turn him into a person I won't critize.



Hahaha, I've upset you? I guess so, judging by the ad-hominems. And by the fact that you clearly didn't even read what I wrote- you're so consumed with trying to prove to me that you're right. No one in their right mind could think Naniwa is a superstar to me if they'd read what I wrote about him. Namely, that he is a quitter, has attitude problems, and that I have al ow opinion of him. I literally wrote that within the last page, but you didn't bother to look, did you? In my opinion, that makes you all the more pathetic.

I'm glad that you realize that human achievements are all relative, but this isn't about me or what I will "one day" realize. (lmao)

Naniwa is the last person you would want to be? Wow. Just wow.

I am more confused than upset.

First I am told I can't critize him because his achievement is "higher" means we can't critize him.

Then you told me you are glad that achievements are all "relative".

But previously you were the one to say we should not critize due to him being one of the best foreigner and achieved higher than us.
And yet you also critize him being a quitter and should not have done X and y.
But at the same time you find it ridicous that people are upset about his actions, actions that you don't support either?

What?


Please find and quote to me where I EVER said that people can't criticize him. Oh wait - I never said that. Again, nice try with the straw man. Especially given all the criticisms of him that I listed myself?

. I don't support his actions, but I don't go on a forum crusade against him. I'm not sure what you're confused about - this isn't about me or Naniwa. I'm just of the opinion that it's pathetic for you to judge him.

That is even more confusing.

Why would you not be pathetic when you judge both naniwa actions and people including me who judge naniwa...

Doesn't that mean you also find yourself pathetic...?

Leaving a few comments is not forum crusade.
It's called leaving your thoughts and comments.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 16:43 GMT
#705
On March 24 2014 01:42 JinDesu wrote:
So.. the takeaway is that we can judge/criticize Naniwa, you can call us out on it, and we can ignore you on it, yes?


Absolutely. Despite how much you may be patting yourself on the back for what you think was a witty retort, that is precisely the point.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12504 Posts
March 23 2014 16:45 GMT
#706
On March 24 2014 01:43 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:30 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:24 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:00 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:57 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:40 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:12 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:11 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:01 JSK wrote:
So ridiculous that people are upset about this in any way. Stop judging others using your own life experience. None of you are pros at his level, are you? No, just armchair starcraft pros playing at being professionals. And yes, I'm quite aware of the vitriolic rage about to be spewed at me by the exceedingly self-righteous posters of this forum.

He shouldn't have probe rushed. He shouldn't have quit. He shouldn't have done many of the things he did. But there's a 33 page thread written about him, and not about a single one of you. So suck it up and be great yourselves or stop spewing bullshit. It's sickening.

I guess to some people like you, having a 33 page of thread is a sign of greatness.

But I won't say that if most people in the thread are hating on him and I think it says more than enough about his reputation.

I guess in a sense its an achievement lol



It's not a sign of greatness. His achievements and status as arguably the best or one of the best foreigners to ever play the game is a sign of greatness. He has an attitude problem, but so do you. Instead of living your life for yourself you live vicariously through others, like a parasite - and criticize them when they fail. And yet you achieve very little for yourself. What Naniwa has achieved is more than you could ever dream of no doubt? I'm sorry if that hurts, but if you reply to my thoughts with some childish one-liners, then you'll just have to deal with it. Tell me what you have ever done that warrants recognition? Please, do tell. I fully recognize that you very well could be doing something significant, but until you prove it, your attitude makes you an armchair quarterback and nothing more.

? That doesn't give him an immune status for me to critize lol

My achievement is that I actually saved a person's job because his passport somehow was sent to my address by the UK visa border control and I tracked down his location and mail it back to him and apparently he almost lost his dream job because he had no passport to travel back for interview.

I personally think my achievement is pretty impressive since I am achieving good for others.

And you are wrong.
Naniwa achievement to me, worth very little because I am not interested in becoming big in programing.
My dream is a lot bigger to me, may not be to you or anyone else.


Your greatest achievement is that you returned a lost passport? I do not know how to reply to this without at least some measure of sarcasm. Naniwa's achievements may be worth very little to you, and at least you realize that this is relative - but come on man. You remind me of people who buy the tabloids in the grocery store checkout aisle.

Yea, well Iike I said, it doesn't give him immunity for anyone to critize.

naniwa is probably like a superstar to you, I guess like a child who looks up to a soccer superstar?

One day you will realize there are other aspects in humanity that isnt about achieving high in measurable context.

My achievement is my proudest one because another person would have lost his job which he hunted for months.
Without my help another person would have lost his dream.

Sorry but I do regard my achievement pretty important to me since it shows a lot of what kind of person I am and I am proud of who I am.

On the other hand, naniwa selfishness and lack of responsibility etc makes him the last person I would want to be and his achievement will never be enough to turn him into a person I won't critize.



Hahaha, I've upset you? I guess so, judging by the ad-hominems. And by the fact that you clearly didn't even read what I wrote- you're so consumed with trying to prove to me that you're right. No one in their right mind could think Naniwa is a superstar to me if they'd read what I wrote about him. Namely, that he is a quitter, has attitude problems, and that I have al ow opinion of him. I literally wrote that within the last page, but you didn't bother to look, did you? In my opinion, that makes you all the more pathetic.

I'm glad that you realize that human achievements are all relative, but this isn't about me or what I will "one day" realize. (lmao)

Naniwa is the last person you would want to be? Wow. Just wow.

I am more confused than upset.

First I am told I can't critize him because his achievement is "higher" means we can't critize him.

Then you told me you are glad that achievements are all "relative".

But previously you were the one to say we should not critize due to him being one of the best foreigner and achieved higher than us.
And yet you also critize him being a quitter and should not have done X and y.
But at the same time you find it ridicous that people are upset about his actions, actions that you don't support either?

What?


Please find and quote to me where I EVER said that people can't criticize him. Oh wait - I never said that. Again, nice try with the straw man. Especially given all the criticisms of him that I listed myself?

. I don't support his actions, but I don't go on a forum crusade against him. I'm not sure what you're confused about - this isn't about me or Naniwa. I'm just of the opinion that it's pathetic for you to judge him.

That is even more confusing.

when you judge both naniwa actions and also judge people including me who judge naniwa and find us pathetic

Doesn't that mean you also find yourself pathetic...?

Leaving a few comments is not forum crusade.
It's called leaving your thoughts and comments.

其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 16:52:13
March 23 2014 16:45 GMT
#707
On March 24 2014 01:43 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:30 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:24 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:00 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:57 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:40 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:12 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:11 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:01 JSK wrote:
So ridiculous that people are upset about this in any way. Stop judging others using your own life experience. None of you are pros at his level, are you? No, just armchair starcraft pros playing at being professionals. And yes, I'm quite aware of the vitriolic rage about to be spewed at me by the exceedingly self-righteous posters of this forum.

He shouldn't have probe rushed. He shouldn't have quit. He shouldn't have done many of the things he did. But there's a 33 page thread written about him, and not about a single one of you. So suck it up and be great yourselves or stop spewing bullshit. It's sickening.

I guess to some people like you, having a 33 page of thread is a sign of greatness.

But I won't say that if most people in the thread are hating on him and I think it says more than enough about his reputation.

I guess in a sense its an achievement lol



It's not a sign of greatness. His achievements and status as arguably the best or one of the best foreigners to ever play the game is a sign of greatness. He has an attitude problem, but so do you. Instead of living your life for yourself you live vicariously through others, like a parasite - and criticize them when they fail. And yet you achieve very little for yourself. What Naniwa has achieved is more than you could ever dream of no doubt? I'm sorry if that hurts, but if you reply to my thoughts with some childish one-liners, then you'll just have to deal with it. Tell me what you have ever done that warrants recognition? Please, do tell. I fully recognize that you very well could be doing something significant, but until you prove it, your attitude makes you an armchair quarterback and nothing more.

? That doesn't give him an immune status for me to critize lol

My achievement is that I actually saved a person's job because his passport somehow was sent to my address by the UK visa border control and I tracked down his location and mail it back to him and apparently he almost lost his dream job because he had no passport to travel back for interview.

I personally think my achievement is pretty impressive since I am achieving good for others.

And you are wrong.
Naniwa achievement to me, worth very little because I am not interested in becoming big in programing.
My dream is a lot bigger to me, may not be to you or anyone else.


Your greatest achievement is that you returned a lost passport? I do not know how to reply to this without at least some measure of sarcasm. Naniwa's achievements may be worth very little to you, and at least you realize that this is relative - but come on man. You remind me of people who buy the tabloids in the grocery store checkout aisle.

Yea, well Iike I said, it doesn't give him immunity for anyone to critize.

naniwa is probably like a superstar to you, I guess like a child who looks up to a soccer superstar?

One day you will realize there are other aspects in humanity that isnt about achieving high in measurable context.

My achievement is my proudest one because another person would have lost his job which he hunted for months.
Without my help another person would have lost his dream.

Sorry but I do regard my achievement pretty important to me since it shows a lot of what kind of person I am and I am proud of who I am.

On the other hand, naniwa selfishness and lack of responsibility etc makes him the last person I would want to be and his achievement will never be enough to turn him into a person I won't critize.



Hahaha, I've upset you? I guess so, judging by the ad-hominems. And by the fact that you clearly didn't even read what I wrote- you're so consumed with trying to prove to me that you're right. No one in their right mind could think Naniwa is a superstar to me if they'd read what I wrote about him. Namely, that he is a quitter, has attitude problems, and that I have al ow opinion of him. I literally wrote that within the last page, but you didn't bother to look, did you? In my opinion, that makes you all the more pathetic.

I'm glad that you realize that human achievements are all relative, but this isn't about me or what I will "one day" realize. (lmao)

Naniwa is the last person you would want to be? Wow. Just wow.

I am more confused than upset.

First I am told I can't critize him because his achievement is "higher" means we can't critize him.

Then you told me you are glad that achievements are all "relative".

But previously you were the one to say we should not critize due to him being one of the best foreigner and achieved higher than us.
And yet you also critize him being a quitter and should not have done X and y.
But at the same time you find it ridicous that people are upset about his actions, actions that you don't support either?

What?


Please find and quote to me where I EVER said that people can't criticize him. Oh wait - I never said that. Again, nice try with the straw man. Especially given all the criticisms of him that I listed myself?

. I don't support his actions, but I don't go on a forum crusade against him. I'm not sure what you're confused about - this isn't about me or Naniwa. I'm just of the opinion that it's pathetic for you to judge him.

That is even more confusing.

Why would you not be pathetic when you judge both naniwa actions and people including me who judge naniwa...

Doesn't that mean you also find yourself pathetic...?

Leaving a few comments is not forum crusade.
It's called leaving your thoughts and comments.



Hahahaha, I am not judging you, I am the only one in the last few pages who has made a specific point of saying that I can be and often am wrong. Furthermore, and most importantly, I responded to the judging of others by you, not the other way around. Don't try to turn this around on me. It's really not that confusing.


By the way, don't quote your own posts back at me when you never responded to mine.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
March 23 2014 16:45 GMT
#708
On March 24 2014 01:43 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:42 JinDesu wrote:
So.. the takeaway is that we can judge/criticize Naniwa, you can call us out on it, and we can ignore you on it, yes?


Absolutely. Despite how much you may be patting yourself on the back for what you think was a witty retort, that is precisely the point.


Thanks. I'll pat myself on the back extra for providing this further response. It's always good to find the point.
Yargh
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 16:47 GMT
#709
On March 24 2014 01:45 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:42 JinDesu wrote:
So.. the takeaway is that we can judge/criticize Naniwa, you can call us out on it, and we can ignore you on it, yes?


Absolutely. Despite how much you may be patting yourself on the back for what you think was a witty retort, that is precisely the point.


Thanks. I'll pat myself on the back extra for providing this further response. It's always good to find the point.


That's fantastic. Meanwhile I will forget your very forgettable, yet slightly witty retorts (as well as your existence) by the time I wake up tomorrow. I do believe we have reached an understanding, oh smartass of smartasses?
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
March 23 2014 16:51 GMT
#710
On March 24 2014 01:47 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:45 JinDesu wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:42 JinDesu wrote:
So.. the takeaway is that we can judge/criticize Naniwa, you can call us out on it, and we can ignore you on it, yes?


Absolutely. Despite how much you may be patting yourself on the back for what you think was a witty retort, that is precisely the point.


Thanks. I'll pat myself on the back extra for providing this further response. It's always good to find the point.


That's fantastic. Meanwhile I will forget your very forgettable, yet slightly witty retorts (as well as your existence) by the time I wake up tomorrow. I do believe we have reached an understanding, oh smartass of smartasses?


Certainly! I hope this helps to clear everything up for Plansix and ETisME~
Yargh
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 16:56 GMT
#711
I've heard the same argument from bigots of all kinds: if I'm so tolerant, why can't I tolerate their intolerance?

ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12504 Posts
March 23 2014 16:57 GMT
#712
On March 24 2014 01:51 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:47 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:45 JinDesu wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:42 JinDesu wrote:
So.. the takeaway is that we can judge/criticize Naniwa, you can call us out on it, and we can ignore you on it, yes?


Absolutely. Despite how much you may be patting yourself on the back for what you think was a witty retort, that is precisely the point.


Thanks. I'll pat myself on the back extra for providing this further response. It's always good to find the point.


That's fantastic. Meanwhile I will forget your very forgettable, yet slightly witty retorts (as well as your existence) by the time I wake up tomorrow. I do believe we have reached an understanding, oh smartass of smartasses?


Certainly! I hope this helps to clear everything up for Plansix and ETisME~



Also going back to topic, the official statement is taking a long time.
I wonder what's the hold back.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 16:58 GMT
#713
On March 24 2014 01:51 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:47 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:45 JinDesu wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:42 JinDesu wrote:
So.. the takeaway is that we can judge/criticize Naniwa, you can call us out on it, and we can ignore you on it, yes?


Absolutely. Despite how much you may be patting yourself on the back for what you think was a witty retort, that is precisely the point.


Thanks. I'll pat myself on the back extra for providing this further response. It's always good to find the point.


That's fantastic. Meanwhile I will forget your very forgettable, yet slightly witty retorts (as well as your existence) by the time I wake up tomorrow. I do believe we have reached an understanding, oh smartass of smartasses?


Certainly! I hope this helps to clear everything up for Plansix and ETisME~


I wouldn't bet on it.
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 16:59 GMT
#714
On March 24 2014 01:01 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 00:58 Plansix wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:56 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:53 Plansix wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:40 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:12 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:11 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:01 JSK wrote:
So ridiculous that people are upset about this in any way. Stop judging others using your own life experience. None of you are pros at his level, are you? No, just armchair starcraft pros playing at being professionals. And yes, I'm quite aware of the vitriolic rage about to be spewed at me by the exceedingly self-righteous posters of this forum.

He shouldn't have probe rushed. He shouldn't have quit. He shouldn't have done many of the things he did. But there's a 33 page thread written about him, and not about a single one of you. So suck it up and be great yourselves or stop spewing bullshit. It's sickening.

I guess to some people like you, having a 33 page of thread is a sign of greatness.

But I won't say that if most people in the thread are hating on him and I think it says more than enough about his reputation.

I guess in a sense its an achievement lol



It's not a sign of greatness. His achievements and status as arguably the best or one of the best foreigners to ever play the game is a sign of greatness. He has an attitude problem, but so do you. Instead of living your life for yourself you live vicariously through others, like a parasite - and criticize them when they fail. And yet you achieve very little for yourself. What Naniwa has achieved is more than you could ever dream of no doubt? I'm sorry if that hurts, but if you reply to my thoughts with some childish one-liners, then you'll just have to deal with it. Tell me what you have ever done that warrants recognition? Please, do tell. I fully recognize that you very well could be doing something significant, but until you prove it, your attitude makes you an armchair quarterback and nothing more.

? That doesn't give him an immune status for me to critize lol

My achievement is that I actually saved a person's job because his passport somehow was sent to my address by the UK visa border control and I tracked down his location and mail it back to him and apparently he almost lost his dream job because he had no passport to travel back for interview.

I personally think my achievement is pretty impressive since I am achieving good for others.

And you are wrong.
Naniwa achievement to me, worth very little because I am not interested in becoming big in programing.
My dream is a lot bigger to me, may not be to you or anyone else.


Your greatest achievement is that you returned a lost passport? I do not know how to reply to this without at least some measure of sarcasm. Naniwa's achievements may be worth very little to you, and at least you realize that this is relative - but come on man. I may very well be wrong about you, but I do not believe I am wrong about your attitude in this case. It would be much easier to respect you if you spent time ensuring your own actions reflected the sentiments and criticisms that you project onto someone you have never met, not even once in your whole life. To me, you are a fool. It is okay to disagree with me and I am often wrong. But that is the difference between us, isn't it? The ability to think critically.

Wait, so now we need to weight our personal achievements before we can criticize public figures? So I have to accomplish as much as the president before I can voice my disapprove of his actions?


Straw man again, Notice I never said anything about having to accomplish as much as the president before you can voice your disapproval of his actions. You have every right to voice your disapproval of Naniwa, and I have every right to voice my disapproval of you.

What is ironic is that you take such offense at someone voicing disproval of YOUR actions. Yet you have no qualms in dispensing with such judgements as long as it as at the expense of others.

PS- I never talked about myself at all, and never will. My response are strictly related to your unwarranted criticisms of someone you have never met. Try again.

I am glad you coincided defeat in your flawed argument. Good day.


You coincided defeat by not responding to my arguments, and not explaining how they are flawed. You wrote a one sentence reply capped with "good day", that neither responded to anything I said nor made any coherent points (or any point at all) of your own. Grow up.

PhoenixLight
Profile Joined November 2011
43 Posts
March 23 2014 16:59 GMT
#715
On March 24 2014 01:40 plogamer wrote:
staph judging people who are judging other people.


Case closed. JSK is hypocrite. And GL Naniwa, please become a smash bros melee progamer! I think marth suits the protoss playstyle.
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 16:59 GMT
#716
On March 24 2014 01:26 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:20 Shinta) wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:00 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:57 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:40 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:12 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:11 ETisME wrote:
On March 24 2014 00:01 JSK wrote:
So ridiculous that people are upset about this in any way. Stop judging others using your own life experience. None of you are pros at his level, are you? No, just armchair starcraft pros playing at being professionals. And yes, I'm quite aware of the vitriolic rage about to be spewed at me by the exceedingly self-righteous posters of this forum.

He shouldn't have probe rushed. He shouldn't have quit. He shouldn't have done many of the things he did. But there's a 33 page thread written about him, and not about a single one of you. So suck it up and be great yourselves or stop spewing bullshit. It's sickening.

I guess to some people like you, having a 33 page of thread is a sign of greatness.

But I won't say that if most people in the thread are hating on him and I think it says more than enough about his reputation.

I guess in a sense its an achievement lol



It's not a sign of greatness. His achievements and status as arguably the best or one of the best foreigners to ever play the game is a sign of greatness. He has an attitude problem, but so do you. Instead of living your life for yourself you live vicariously through others, like a parasite - and criticize them when they fail. And yet you achieve very little for yourself. What Naniwa has achieved is more than you could ever dream of no doubt? I'm sorry if that hurts, but if you reply to my thoughts with some childish one-liners, then you'll just have to deal with it. Tell me what you have ever done that warrants recognition? Please, do tell. I fully recognize that you very well could be doing something significant, but until you prove it, your attitude makes you an armchair quarterback and nothing more.

? That doesn't give him an immune status for me to critize lol

My achievement is that I actually saved a person's job because his passport somehow was sent to my address by the UK visa border control and I tracked down his location and mail it back to him and apparently he almost lost his dream job because he had no passport to travel back for interview.

I personally think my achievement is pretty impressive since I am achieving good for others.

And you are wrong.
Naniwa achievement to me, worth very little because I am not interested in becoming big in programing.
My dream is a lot bigger to me, may not be to you or anyone else.


Your greatest achievement is that you returned a lost passport? I do not know how to reply to this without at least some measure of sarcasm. Naniwa's achievements may be worth very little to you, and at least you realize that this is relative - but come on man. You remind me of people who buy the tabloids in the grocery store checkout aisle.

Yea, well Iike I said, it doesn't give him immunity for anyone to critize.

naniwa is probably like a superstar to you, I guess like a child who looks up to a soccer superstar?

One day you will realize there are other aspects in humanity that isnt about achieving high in measurable context.

My achievement is my proudest one because another person would have lost his job which he hunted for months.
Without my help another person would have lost his dream.

Sorry but I do regard my achievement pretty important to me since it shows a lot of what kind of person I am and I am proud of who I am.

On the other hand, naniwa selfishness and lack of responsibility etc makes him the last person I would want to be and his achievement will never be enough to turn him into a person I won't critize.



Hahaha, I've upset you? I guess so, judging by the ad-hominems. And by the fact that you clearly didn't even read what I wrote- you're so consumed with trying to prove to me that you're right. No one in their right mind could think Naniwa is a superstar to me if they'd read what I wrote about him. Namely, that he is a quitter, has attitude problems, and that I have al ow opinion of him. I literally wrote that within the last page, but you didn't bother to look, did you? In my opinion, that makes you all the more pathetic.

I'm glad that you realize that human achievements are all relative, but this isn't about me or what I will "one day" realize. (lmao)

Naniwa is the last person you would want to be? Wow. Just wow.

To be fair, it's your initial argument that is bogus... We have to shut up and have no ability to criticize him because he's a pro and we're not?
This just tells me you have no clue what you're talking about, but I read on anyways only to find that you really don't. You're saying that everyone on this site is an armchair professional just because you don't know us in person, and require proof of our relevance before even considering an argument or criticism valid? lol, you shouldn't have an account on a forum.

Without criticism, there would be no greatness, and without greatness, the bar for achievement would be set so low that anyone would be able to achieve it.
Why are there rules? Any kind of rules... Game rules, laws, even house rules that you make up? That's because people have criticized the opposite, and the community, whether it be 2 people or millions, have agreed to a standard and set the bar for others to follow.
Nothing would progress otherwise. The world would still be a feudal place if people didn't care about "armchair professionals".


Straw man again, you can criticize him. What's ironic is that I'm SEEMINGLY not allowed to criticize you. You don't need to shut up. I responded to the sentiment about him not being worthy of a McDonald's position, as I have elaborated on before. Whether or not you believe I have or haven't a clue of what I'm talking about is of no consequence to me. And yes, I require proof of one's relevance if they are going to attack someone in an online forum and insinuate that they are not worthy of a minimum wage job because they didn't want to play Starcraft professionally anymore. You didn't say that personally, but that's what I responded to.

"lol, you shouldn't have an account on a forum?" - Good one dude!

I fully agree that without criticism there would be no greatness. That is PRECISELY why it is so FUNNY that if I criticize ANY of the people currently doing the criticizing (of naniwa) , they suddenly find it unacceptable to be critical!

If you can't take it, don't dish it out brotha

plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
March 23 2014 17:00 GMT
#717
On March 24 2014 01:47 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:45 JinDesu wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:42 JinDesu wrote:
So.. the takeaway is that we can judge/criticize Naniwa, you can call us out on it, and we can ignore you on it, yes?


Absolutely. Despite how much you may be patting yourself on the back for what you think was a witty retort, that is precisely the point.


Thanks. I'll pat myself on the back extra for providing this further response. It's always good to find the point.


That's fantastic. Meanwhile I will forget your very forgettable, yet slightly witty retorts (as well as your existence) by the time I wake up tomorrow. I do believe we have reached an understanding, oh smartass of smartasses?


From this fervent disagreement, both embroiled in a passionate exchange of words; sparked the beginnings of banter more accepting of one another. Showing hints of approval.

Get a room, you two. It's too adorable.
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 17:09:30
March 23 2014 17:01 GMT
#718
On March 24 2014 01:59 PhoenixLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:40 plogamer wrote:
staph judging people who are judging other people.


Case closed. JSK is hypocrite. And GL Naniwa, please become a smash bros melee progamer! I think marth suits the protoss playstyle.


because calling a bigot a bigot is hypocritical! Once again, the bigots always say: "if you're so tolerant, why can't you tolerate my intolerance?! Hypocrite!!!" (just an example, don't freak out) you finished it off with a nice balance/playstyle complaint as well! masterful.


Classic case of: can dish it out , but can't take it. Criticizing judgmental people does not make me judgmental. That is weak and a cop out
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
March 23 2014 17:04 GMT
#719
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*
Get off my lawn, young punks
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 17:09:04
March 23 2014 17:05 GMT
#720
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*


It has gotten hilarious, even more so with this gem of a contribution. I'm not even sure what you're trying to get across- that the internet is a more appropriate place for judging people? Or that the internet is not to be taken seriously? Whatever man, get your popcorn and up that post count buddy, clearly all five thousand plus were really significant

And yes, this is great entertainment. Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(
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