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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
March 23 2014 17:08 GMT
#721
On March 24 2014 02:00 plogamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:47 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:45 JinDesu wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:43 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:42 JinDesu wrote:
So.. the takeaway is that we can judge/criticize Naniwa, you can call us out on it, and we can ignore you on it, yes?


Absolutely. Despite how much you may be patting yourself on the back for what you think was a witty retort, that is precisely the point.


Thanks. I'll pat myself on the back extra for providing this further response. It's always good to find the point.


That's fantastic. Meanwhile I will forget your very forgettable, yet slightly witty retorts (as well as your existence) by the time I wake up tomorrow. I do believe we have reached an understanding, oh smartass of smartasses?


From this fervent disagreement, both embroiled in a passionate exchange of words; sparked the beginnings of banter more accepting of one another. Showing hints of approval.

Get a room, you two. It's too adorable.


I gotta admit, I was happy to see that I qualified for at the very least, slightly witty. But enough off topic from me. I am not a Naniwa fan, and I didn't care too much about his exit of the tournament. I'm all for the semantics that "you can criticize them, but I can also criticize you", but it becomes a bit of a circle jerk like the last few pages.
Yargh
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 23 2014 17:08 GMT
#722
Some of you guys on this forum have WAY too much on their hands to have so many emotional breakdowns for a topic that shouldn't have much impact on your lives *chuckles*
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
PhoenixLight
Profile Joined November 2011
43 Posts
March 23 2014 17:08 GMT
#723
On March 24 2014 02:01 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 01:59 PhoenixLight wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:40 plogamer wrote:
staph judging people who are judging other people.


Case closed. JSK is hypocrite. And GL Naniwa, please become a smash bros melee progamer! I think marth suits the protoss playstyle.


because calling a bigot a bigot is hypocritical! you finished it off with a nice balance/playstyle complaint as well! masterful.


Yes! Because you assume we can't call you a bigot for doing so. You're special apparently. And marth is pretty fun man and well respected character. Why so negative on something you know nothing about?
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
March 23 2014 17:11 GMT
#724
On March 24 2014 02:05 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*


It has gotten hilarious, even more so with this gem of a contribution. I'm not even sure what you're trying to get across- that the internet is a more appropriate place for judging people? Or that the internet is not to be taken seriously? Whatever man, get your popcorn and up that post count buddy, clearly all five thousand plus were really significant

And yes, this is great entertainment. Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(


Relax dude. You're way to upset looking at the amount of edits you do. Take a breath and then clearly state your points, you've fallen to inconsistent babble while trying to be edgy and adding a snarky remark in every post.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2014 17:13 GMT
#725
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*

Yeah, the thread has gone full amazing at this point. Its one man against the internet, but he will win.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 17:15 GMT
#726
On March 24 2014 02:11 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:05 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*


It has gotten hilarious, even more so with this gem of a contribution. I'm not even sure what you're trying to get across- that the internet is a more appropriate place for judging people? Or that the internet is not to be taken seriously? Whatever man, get your popcorn and up that post count buddy, clearly all five thousand plus were really significant

And yes, this is great entertainment. Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(


Relax dude. You're way to upset looking at the amount of edits you do. Take a breath and then clearly state your points, you've fallen to inconsistent babble while trying to be edgy and adding a snarky remark in every post.


this was meaningless as you made no specific points, not sure how to respond. it is something i am passionate about, whether you think i am "too upset" or not really does not matter to me, because your opinion does not matter to me
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 17:17 GMT
#727
On March 24 2014 02:13 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*

Yeah, the thread has gone full amazing at this point. Its one man against the internet, but he will win.



I can't win against someone who has time to make as many posts on the internets as you, that's for sure. And I certainly can't win against someone as amazingly witty as you.

You're missing the point: I don't think I will convince anyone at all. This is enjoyable.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2014 17:17 GMT
#728
On March 24 2014 02:15 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:11 Zocat wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:05 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*


It has gotten hilarious, even more so with this gem of a contribution. I'm not even sure what you're trying to get across- that the internet is a more appropriate place for judging people? Or that the internet is not to be taken seriously? Whatever man, get your popcorn and up that post count buddy, clearly all five thousand plus were really significant

And yes, this is great entertainment. Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(


Relax dude. You're way to upset looking at the amount of edits you do. Take a breath and then clearly state your points, you've fallen to inconsistent babble while trying to be edgy and adding a snarky remark in every post.


this was meaningless as you made no specific points, not sure how to respond. it is something i am passionate about, whether you think i am "too upset" or not really does not matter to me, because your opinion does not matter to me

So you don't care about others opinions or what they think of the discussion....

So why are you having it again?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 17:19:21
March 23 2014 17:19 GMT
#729
On March 24 2014 02:17 JSK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:13 Plansix wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*

Yeah, the thread has gone full amazing at this point. Its one man against the internet, but he will win.



I can't win against someone who has time to make as many posts on the internets as you, that's for sure. And I certainly can't win against someone as amazingly witty as you.

You're missing the point: I don't think I will convince anyone at all. This is enjoyable.



Ok, the discussion is over, he is citing posts counts. No further rational discussion can be had at this point.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
March 23 2014 17:19 GMT
#730
On March 24 2014 02:17 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:15 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:11 Zocat wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:05 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*


It has gotten hilarious, even more so with this gem of a contribution. I'm not even sure what you're trying to get across- that the internet is a more appropriate place for judging people? Or that the internet is not to be taken seriously? Whatever man, get your popcorn and up that post count buddy, clearly all five thousand plus were really significant

And yes, this is great entertainment. Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(


Relax dude. You're way to upset looking at the amount of edits you do. Take a breath and then clearly state your points, you've fallen to inconsistent babble while trying to be edgy and adding a snarky remark in every post.


this was meaningless as you made no specific points, not sure how to respond. it is something i am passionate about, whether you think i am "too upset" or not really does not matter to me, because your opinion does not matter to me

So you don't care about others opinions or what they think of the discussion....

So why are you having it again?


Plansix - the answer is simple. Because he can. He can criticize you, just as you can criticize Nani. Etc etc.
Yargh
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2014 17:20 GMT
#731
On March 24 2014 02:19 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:17 Plansix wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:15 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:11 Zocat wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:05 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*


It has gotten hilarious, even more so with this gem of a contribution. I'm not even sure what you're trying to get across- that the internet is a more appropriate place for judging people? Or that the internet is not to be taken seriously? Whatever man, get your popcorn and up that post count buddy, clearly all five thousand plus were really significant

And yes, this is great entertainment. Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(


Relax dude. You're way to upset looking at the amount of edits you do. Take a breath and then clearly state your points, you've fallen to inconsistent babble while trying to be edgy and adding a snarky remark in every post.


this was meaningless as you made no specific points, not sure how to respond. it is something i am passionate about, whether you think i am "too upset" or not really does not matter to me, because your opinion does not matter to me

So you don't care about others opinions or what they think of the discussion....

So why are you having it again?


Plansix - the answer is simple. Because he can. He can criticize you, just as you can criticize Nani. Etc etc.

Oh sweet. Didn't we already know that? Just like people are entitled to their opinions and I can tell them their opinions are dumb.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 17:24:23
March 23 2014 17:20 GMT
#732
On March 24 2014 02:08 PhoenixLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:01 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:59 PhoenixLight wrote:
On March 24 2014 01:40 plogamer wrote:
staph judging people who are judging other people.


Case closed. JSK is hypocrite. And GL Naniwa, please become a smash bros melee progamer! I think marth suits the protoss playstyle.


because calling a bigot a bigot is hypocritical! you finished it off with a nice balance/playstyle complaint as well! masterful.


Yes! Because you assume we can't call you a bigot for doing so. You're special apparently. And marth is pretty fun man and well respected character. Why so negative on something you know nothing about?


I had to remind my brain to breath after reading this sentence. Congratulations on constructing such a mentally incapacitating post. I do assume you can't call me a bigot for criticizing your criticisms, yes. lmaooo

btw i am a fucking fanatic when it comes to SSBM, I played sheik and marth, i am PSYCHED that TL is coming out with SSMB section!!! :-)
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 17:21 GMT
#733
On March 24 2014 02:17 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:15 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:11 Zocat wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:05 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*


It has gotten hilarious, even more so with this gem of a contribution. I'm not even sure what you're trying to get across- that the internet is a more appropriate place for judging people? Or that the internet is not to be taken seriously? Whatever man, get your popcorn and up that post count buddy, clearly all five thousand plus were really significant

And yes, this is great entertainment. Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(


Relax dude. You're way to upset looking at the amount of edits you do. Take a breath and then clearly state your points, you've fallen to inconsistent babble while trying to be edgy and adding a snarky remark in every post.


this was meaningless as you made no specific points, not sure how to respond. it is something i am passionate about, whether you think i am "too upset" or not really does not matter to me, because your opinion does not matter to me

So you don't care about others opinions or what they think of the discussion....

So why are you having it again?


I absolutely care, but condescending posts about whether or not someone thinks I am too upset, or am rambling or whatever, 1) will not make me feel bad since this is completely anonymous 2) made no specific point about why or what indicated that I am too upset, so I'm not sure how to respond
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 17:23 GMT
#734
On March 24 2014 02:19 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:17 Plansix wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:15 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:11 Zocat wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:05 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*


It has gotten hilarious, even more so with this gem of a contribution. I'm not even sure what you're trying to get across- that the internet is a more appropriate place for judging people? Or that the internet is not to be taken seriously? Whatever man, get your popcorn and up that post count buddy, clearly all five thousand plus were really significant

And yes, this is great entertainment. Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(


Relax dude. You're way to upset looking at the amount of edits you do. Take a breath and then clearly state your points, you've fallen to inconsistent babble while trying to be edgy and adding a snarky remark in every post.


this was meaningless as you made no specific points, not sure how to respond. it is something i am passionate about, whether you think i am "too upset" or not really does not matter to me, because your opinion does not matter to me

So you don't care about others opinions or what they think of the discussion....

So why are you having it again?


Plansix - the answer is simple. Because he can. He can criticize you, just as you can criticize Nani. Etc etc.


Thank you. I guess whoever mentioned we should get a room is right. You turn me on, and I won't ever forget your existence. You will be in my thoughts always, Jindesu. Forever and always.
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 17:30:31
March 23 2014 17:26 GMT
#735
On March 24 2014 02:19 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:17 JSK wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:13 Plansix wrote:
On March 24 2014 02:04 ACrow wrote:
This thread has gotten hillarious. Please, tell us more how people should stop judging public figures on the internet.
*popcorn*

Yeah, the thread has gone full amazing at this point. Its one man against the internet, but he will win.



I can't win against someone who has time to make as many posts on the internets as you, that's for sure. And I certainly can't win against someone as amazingly witty as you.

You're missing the point: I don't think I will convince anyone at all. This is enjoyable.



Ok, the discussion is over, he is citing posts counts. No further rational discussion can be had at this point.


You still haven't responded to multiple posts I made directed at you. No rational discussion was going to ever be had. You're entirely too selective about what you reply to and what you don't. It seems to me you care entirely too much about being showing off on an internet forum than discussing anything with any substance. Your post count and number of meaningless one-liners are evidence enough of that. I feel as if you are very insecure.

Whereas I for example, do not care because "JSK" is an internet entity that means nothing to me. You are obviously much more invested in this than me. That is what I am getting at by your post count. If I cared for the approval of various forum-goers I would not be making these posts. I think it's enjoyable to argue with people like you. Call me crazy.
Kaktusblad
Profile Joined February 2014
Sweden5 Posts
March 23 2014 17:28 GMT
#736
I was a fan of Naniwa through all of the other things, but after IEM he lost all the goodwill he had with me. His way of treating the community and fans through all of this has just been horrible. Understandable that they kick him off Alliance.

And JSK,
You come on a forum, waving the argument of "you can't judge X because you are not X", which isn't a reasonable argument. And you keep on drawing a clear line between "judging" and "criticizing", a line which nobody but you seem to understand.
You generalize everyone in a thread saying that all posters are like the worst, calling the thread a crusade.
You call people bigots and you insult peoples motivations and keep on putting your self on a high horse instead of having a reasonable discussion. The ironic thing is that this makes you look like a person with a weak ego that needs to shit on others to boost his self esteem.

On March 24 2014 02:05 JSK wrote:
Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(


Maaaan, this isn't the way to reason with people....

If you want to see why people are upset about this, you may read TBs posts. He explains it nicely I think.


JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-23 17:49:11
March 23 2014 17:31 GMT
#737
On March 24 2014 02:28 Kaktusblad wrote:
I was a fan of Naniwa through all of the other things, but after IEM he lost all the goodwill he had with me. His way of treating the community and fans through all of this has just been horrible. Understandable that they kick him off Alliance.

And JSK,
You come on a forum, waving the argument of "you can't judge X because you are not X", which isn't a reasonable argument. And you keep on drawing a clear line between "judging" and "criticizing", a line which nobody but you seem to understand.
You generalize everyone in a thread saying that all posters are like the worst, calling the thread a crusade.
You call people bigots and you insult peoples motivations and keep on putting your self on a high horse instead of having a reasonable discussion. The ironic thing is that this makes you look like a person with a weak ego that needs to shit on others to boost his self esteem.

Show nested quote +
On March 24 2014 02:05 JSK wrote:
Though it is disheartening to talk to so many people I feel could actually benefit from electroshock treatment :-(


Maaaan, this isn't the way to reason with people....

If you want to see why people are upset about this, you may read TBs posts. He explains it nicely I think.




Alright, I'll give you this one: I shouldn't have said that. It did detract from my posts and was not constructive even in the slightest. There, I've tried to be reasonable. Can that be said for anyone else?

I disagree that the argument I made is not a reasonable argument by the way. People having different life experiences and therefore not being able to judge other people is definitely something I believe in, though it is not that black and white. For example, many people judge this community because they think that by virtue of being a video game, starcraft is somehow silly or unworthy of investment of time. Just one example, but I am sure we have all felt this type of sentiment, or at least many of us.

You can think I am a weak person that "needs to shit on others" and that is fine that you think that because I am just a random name on the internet, as are you. I am weak in many ways. But I am the only person who has admitted to being wrong about anything thus far. To me that does not mean weak. However, it is completely fine if you feel that way about me. Again, it has no effect on my life. Bigots was an example. You, like most, clearly did not read my posts. So the feeling of irony is mutual.

If you want to come in here throw in your 2 cents, read in depth first.


None of these admissions change what my point is: the people in this thread throwing out the judgements 1) didn't respond to my point that I was specifically addressing the ridiculous notion that Naniwa isn't even worth a minim wage job. That is judgmental and ridiculous, and just as looking down on intolerant people does not make one intolerant, so do I feel that I have not been overly judgmental or intolerant.

If you are initially judgmental of someone, you can't just say that any criticism of you yourself is judgmental in return. Just an intellectually weak cop-out and exactly what, for example, the anti-gay crowd says about people who call them bigots.


Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
March 23 2014 17:43 GMT
#738
You people are pathetic. Both sides of the argument. We are well past the point where most sane people would have realised that all this hatred and judgement of Naniwa, Alliance, IEM and eachother is too childish for words.
JSK
Profile Joined February 2013
United States133 Posts
March 23 2014 17:50 GMT
#739
On March 24 2014 02:43 Mikau wrote:
You people are pathetic. Both sides of the argument. We are well past the point where most sane people would have realised that all this hatred and judgement of Naniwa, Alliance, IEM and eachother is too childish for words.


I'll take it - call me pathetic, I agree with the rest of your words enough to wholeheartedly agree with this one.
doctormario
Profile Joined March 2014
Canada5 Posts
March 23 2014 17:51 GMT
#740
1) didn't respond to my point that I was specifically addressing the ridiculous notion that Naniwa isn't even worth a minim wage job.


This is the biggest point people didn't realize. I think they saw your post and thought you were generalizing to all people who were judging. Too many useless witty statements ended up distracting people from it.
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