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Mexico674 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/0utG21q.jpg) Group A  Mvp VortiXMMABunnyGroup B jjakjiDayshiSnute GrubbyGroup C WelmuTLOStarDustBabyKnightGroup D MCBlinGSanNerchioPoll: Group of Death? Group A (344) Group B (47) Group D (36) Group C (21) 448 total votes Your vote: Group of Death? (Vote): Group A 
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Xums
Germany19 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
B: jjakji and Grubby C: Stardust and TLO D: MC and San | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On March 07 2014 07:08 Xums wrote: wooohooo no TL Teamkill :D That's the spirit. It's going to be tough for the 3 TL players. I'd say TLO has the best chance, but even he's in a tough group | ||
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ninjamyst
United States1903 Posts
On March 07 2014 07:08 Xums wrote: wooohooo no TL Teamkill :D if all 3 TL on the same group, then at least one of them will make it through. Now, not so sure... TLO has the best chance, and I just feel sorry for Bunny... | ||
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TheFlock
United States389 Posts
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hipo
France482 Posts
 MVP and MMAGroup B: Jjakji and DayshiGroup C:  Stardust and WelmuGroup D: San and MCOnly PvT in the RO8! | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
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Popkiller
3415 Posts
On March 07 2014 07:40 Darkhorse wrote: Wait wut EU so fast! Mvp revenge time. you mean revenge vs MMA? He's beaten him the last few times they've met. MMA still has a winning record, but I think the tables have completely turned. Although it's been a looong time since Mvp played a live TvT, so who knows. | ||
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Destructicon
4713 Posts
On March 07 2014 07:42 Popkiller wrote: you mean revenge vs MMA? He's beaten him the last few times they've met. MMA still has a winning record, but I think the tables have completely turned. Although it's been a looong time since Mvp played a live TvT, so who knows. Mech has never been stronger and Mvp is a master of mech, it doesn't look good for MMA. | ||
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vult
United States9400 Posts
Group A and D both really tough. GL to the foreigners, it'll be tough! Edit: My Predictions A: MMA, Mvp B: Jjakji, Dayshi C: Stardust, Welmu D: MC, San | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On March 07 2014 07:44 Destructicon wrote: Mech has never been stronger and Mvp is a master of mech, it doesn't look good for MMA. That's what they said before the October GSL finals back in 2011... | ||
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Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
On March 07 2014 07:42 Popkiller wrote: you mean revenge vs MMA? He's beaten him the last few times they've met. MMA still has a winning record, but I think the tables have completely turned. Although it's been a looong time since Mvp played a live TvT, so who knows. Well they haven't played in awhile and when Mvp won it was just in a ro32. MMA knocked him out in the ro4 of Blizzard Cup 3-0 and beat him in the GSL finals so I think this is still some Mvp revenge time  | ||
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Darrkhan
Finland1236 Posts
Group B: Dayshi, Snute Group C: Welmu, TLO Group D: San, Nerchio | ||
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
On March 07 2014 07:52 Darkhorse wrote: Well they haven't played in awhile and when Mvp won it was just in a ro32. MMA knocked him out in the ro4 of Blizzard Cup 3-0 and beat him in the GSL finals so I think this is still some Mvp revenge time Even though it was just Ro32, Mvp knocked him out 4-1 in the GSL and MMA fell into code B shortly after, while Mvp went on and almost won G5L. It's MMA who needs to revenge. | ||
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Qwerty85
Croatia5536 Posts
Last two times they played Mvp won 2-0 and 2-1. Also, in WoL mech was stronger in theory but good bio player could still do wonders to negate its advantages. With the addition of hellbats and upgrade changes, mech really is superior to bio and since MMA was never a meching player while Mvp basically does only mech in TvT, this time I would definitely give edge to Mvp because if MMA goes bio, he will play from a disadvantage on most maps but if he goes mech he will have to beat Mvp at his own game. | ||
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KatatoniK
United Kingdom978 Posts
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Topin
Peru10092 Posts
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Paragleiber
413 Posts
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
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vult
United States9400 Posts
On March 07 2014 08:03 Topin wrote: Nerchio must be happy | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
On March 07 2014 08:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Good chance we'll be seeing Mvp at the seasonal final ^^ What seasonal final? | ||
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
yea isnt it just Season 1,2,3, then Blizzcon world finals for 2014? | ||
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FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
On March 07 2014 08:58 mikumegurine wrote: yea isnt it just Season 1,2,3, then Blizzcon world finals for 2014? oh did they cancel them D;? I was unaware. That's too bad if they did | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On March 07 2014 07:09 ACrow wrote: I think most if not all the Koreans should make it, with MC and Mvp having the biggest potential to be upset maybe? I'd say MC's chances of being upset are about as high as San's. It will be interesting to see if all Koreans will make it out or if some Europeans can show some dominance. On March 07 2014 08:03 Topin wrote: Nerchio must be happy I'm pretty sure that Nerchio would have been much happier about a Z or T only group. Considering that ZvP is his weakest matchup historically. Not to mention that he has two Koreans in his group... | ||
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mikumegurine
Canada3145 Posts
On March 07 2014 09:03 ggrrg wrote: I'd say MC's chances of being upset are about as high as San's. It will be interesting to see if all Koreans will make it out or if some Europeans can show some dominance. I'm pretty sure that Nerchio would have been much happier about a Z or T only group. Considering that ZvP is his weakest matchup historically. Not to mention that he has two Koreans in his group... yea i think he was being sarcastic with the Nerchio comment... MC AND San... | ||
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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mnck
Denmark1518 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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zeratul_jf
United States808 Posts
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LockeTazeline
2390 Posts
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Xinzoe
Korea (South)2373 Posts
On March 07 2014 08:52 Paragleiber wrote: Damn, the Koreans are always so lucky with the groups in WCS EU. They really couldn't complain about getting a group with 3 Koreans, since several of them only finished 2nd in the round of 32. But once again they don't get punished for it. i think groups are sorted by ,nationality / team and race (not sure which order). Of course spreading out the koreans would make most sense so each of them has higher chance to go ro8 | ||
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KingMel
France120 Posts
Nope. VortiX. | ||
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trada
Germany347 Posts
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Twine
France246 Posts
Group B : Jjakji & Grubby Group C : Welmu & Stardust Group D : San & MC 5 protoss 3 terrans 0 zerg  But I guess thats what's going to happen T_T | ||
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geokilla
Canada8244 Posts
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AnonymousSC2
United States189 Posts
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SAFenix
Canada439 Posts
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On March 07 2014 08:52 Paragleiber wrote: Damn, the Koreans are always so lucky with the groups in WCS EU. They really couldn't complain about getting a group with 3 Koreans, since several of them only finished 2nd in the round of 32. But once again they don't get punished for it. They are punished by getting paired with top finisher of each group, who is evidently stronger by placing higher. You only have problems with nationality right? | ||
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Obeast96
United States106 Posts
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tili
United States1332 Posts
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ArTiFaKs
United States1229 Posts
As far as the groups go, poor Bunny was rooting for him to advance but man is it going to be tough now. If he can play some killer TvT I could see him having a chance against mvp, and if MMA pulls one of his "i'm going to suck for no apparent reason" then maybe he will get lucky. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On March 07 2014 13:12 AnonymousSC2 wrote: NO group of death should always be an option >.>.. Why there always have to be a group of death? makes the phrase meaningless. Exactly, this poster is right. When you talk about a group of death, it really should be something special. Life, Innovation, Parting and Flash was a group of death, because these were all obscenely skilled players In Brood War, there was once a group comprised of Jaedong, Bisu, Flash and Sea. Now that is a fucking group of death People throw around the term quite loosely, and it really cheapens the value. In Group A, we have Mvp and MMA, who are two of the most accomplished players in SC2. But they are only 50% of the group. Then we have Vortix who is just a good foreigner, and Bunny, who is relatively unaccomplished. It's more like Half of a Group of Death. Now if you threw Jjakji and MC into that group as well, then you got yourself a Group of Death. | ||
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Sorathez
Australia209 Posts
A: Mvp and Bunny B: Jjakji and Snute (Sorry Grubby) C: BabyKnight and TLO D: MC and Bling | ||
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Fanatic-Templar
Canada5819 Posts
On March 07 2014 13:36 Bagration wrote: Exactly, this poster is right. When you talk about a group of death, it really should be something special. Life, Innovation, Parting and Flash was a group of death, because these were all obscenely skilled players In Brood War, there was once a group comprised of Jaedong, Bisu, Flash and Sea. Now that is a fucking group of death People throw around the term quite loosely, and it really cheapens the value. In Group A, we have Mvp and MMA, who are two of the most accomplished players in SC2. But they are only 50% of the group. Then we have Vortix who is just a good foreigner, and Bunny, who is relatively unaccomplished. It's more like Half of a Group of Death. Now if you threw Jjakji and MC into that group as well, then you got yourself a Group of Death. I'll add my voice to this. | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Furikawari
France2522 Posts
Same. | ||
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Ej_
47656 Posts
On March 07 2014 13:05 trada wrote: pretty good for TLO, Nerchio and Vortix. they all only have to practise one matchup I don't think that Nerchio getting a Korean PvZ specialist in San and on top of that MC who's likely to do some unstoppable all-in good for Nerchio at all. ZvP is his weakest match by far as well. | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
Maybe instead of a Group of Death poll the question should be something like "which group are you most looking forward to". I realize that's not asking exactly the same thing, though. The No Group of Death option is definitely good one to have. | ||
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GreenFate
France289 Posts
On March 07 2014 07:09 ACrow wrote: I think most if not all the Koreans should make it, with MC and Mvp having the biggest potential to be upset maybe? MMA's level of play has worried me yesterday ... | ||
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On March 07 2014 11:49 Xinzoe wrote: i think groups are sorted by ,nationality / team and race (not sure which order). Of course spreading out the koreans would make most sense so each of them has higher chance to go ro8 Or maybe they are random? With only 6 koreans in Ro16, it isn't that surprise to not have a 3 KR group... | ||
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Swiipii
2195 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3453 Posts
So how did it go again? MMA > MKP > MVP or something of that sort? MMA > MVP and MVP > MKP, not sure how MKP vs MMA goes. | ||
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SpunXtain20
Australia554 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On March 07 2014 16:44 ejozl wrote: MMA > MVP and MVP > MKP, not sure how MKP vs MMA goes. The old triangle of 2011 was Mvp>Polt>MMA>Mvp. Mvp>>>>>>>>>MKP was separate but also true. | ||
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Ctesias
4595 Posts
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
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ejozl
Denmark3453 Posts
Group A: MVP beats Bunny, Vortix vs MMA I think Vortix eeks it out, as the hardest match for him in the group. Then he should beat MVP and MMA easily deals with Bunny and should proceed to defeat MVP. Group B: Jjakji vs Grubby could really go either way, Dayshi beats Snute. Grubby could make it out first place if he wins vs Jjakji and then Dayshi, however if he meets Snute he will drop out first. But I think Jjakji should be the small favourite in that matchup and him and Dayshi should make it out. Group C: Welmu beats BabyKnight, Stardust should eek it out vs TLO even though it's quite a close match. Then I slightly favour Welmu even though it sounds crazy and it really comes down to Stardust and TLO in this group, BabyKnight should drop out first. Group D: I think Nerchio beats MC, San beats Bling, MC beats Bling, Nerchio beats San in the sickest series evahh and MC beats San. | ||
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stAMy
Norway30 Posts
On March 07 2014 16:51 slowbacontron wrote: The old triangle of 2011 was Mvp>Polt>MMA>Mvp. Mvp>>>>>>>>>MKP was separate but also true. Pretty sure it was MVP > ALIVE > MMA ? | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On March 07 2014 08:03 Topin wrote: Nerchio must be happy This was my first thought as well | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
Nobody remembers Alive... well except Darkhoarse of course. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
aLive didn't play many games with Mvp and MMA. Also, never forget the Polt 4:0 MMA stomp! | ||
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Holloworb
Norway345 Posts
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MrMischelito
347 Posts
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Big-t
Austria1350 Posts
 At least one Zerg per group... | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Aceii
Germany83 Posts
Group B: jjakji and Dayshi Group C: Stardust and TLO Group D: MC and San | ||
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Willzzz
United Kingdom774 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
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Yonnua
United Kingdom2331 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On March 07 2014 16:51 slowbacontron wrote: The old triangle of 2011 was Mvp>Polt>MMA>Mvp. Mvp>>>>>>>>>MKP was separate but also true. MKP can also be substituted for Polt because he's 16-7 against MMA but yea the standard was putting polt there | ||
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imrusty269
United States1404 Posts
On March 07 2014 21:50 Shellshock wrote: MKP can also be substituted for Polt because he's 16-7 against MMA but yea the standard was putting polt there The triangle was for GSL only. Mvp beat MMA in MLGs and other tournaments. | ||
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ThorPool
Panama145 Posts
PS: TLO Du kannst es schaffen !!! | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
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Tibbroar
United States161 Posts
On March 07 2014 21:52 imrusty269 wrote: The triangle was for GSL only. Mvp beat MMA in MLGs and other tournaments. I miss those days, that triangle of death was fun to watch. Even if MMA kept defeating my beloved Mvp. | ||
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Salient
United States876 Posts
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NaNiWuT
Canada4 Posts
Mech has never been stronger and Mvp is a master of mech, it doesn't look good for MMA. Drops will tear MVP him apart. | ||
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
On March 07 2014 23:49 Salient wrote: Bunny is in a group with 2 of the most famous and sucessful Korean Terrans. If he advances, he is the new foreign hope. Yup. As of know he is expected foreign sacrificial lamb | ||
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Jampackedeon
United States2053 Posts
On March 07 2014 13:30 ArTiFaKs wrote: Is it just me or does this crop of players look a bit underwhelming... so many upsets early on that I feel this ro16 could've been so much better. Also, the racial distribution between groups is kind of disappointing. PvT has been awesome to watch recently with the mine buff and less all-ins, so I was looking forward to some epic PvT matchups, but guna have to wait for ro8 I guess. As far as the groups go, poor Bunny was rooting for him to advance but man is it going to be tough now. If he can play some killer TvT I could see him having a chance against mvp, and if MMA pulls one of his "i'm going to suck for no apparent reason" then maybe he will get lucky.It's just you, this round of 16 looks awesome to me. | ||
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Butterednuts
United States859 Posts
 Seriously though, these brackets look great. Will be some really close games I feel. I can't wait! | ||
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Larkin
United Kingdom7161 Posts
A: Mvp and MMA B: Jjakji and Dayshi C: Stardust and Babyknight D: MC and San Guess we'll make up for the lack of PvT in the Ro16 with plenty in the RO8... | ||
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Circumstance
United States11403 Posts
You mark my words, Vortix WILL advance from the Group of Death. | ||
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zelevin
United States296 Posts
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anestetic
13 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Have they met in HotS yet? | ||
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slowbacontron
United States7722 Posts
On March 08 2014 10:04 Orcasgt24 wrote: Group A! I hate TvT but I love watching MMA and MVP fight. They always had some of the best games. Have they met in HotS yet? Nope! time to see what's what between them now. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On March 08 2014 10:04 Orcasgt24 wrote: Group A! I hate TvT but I love watching MMA and MVP fight. They always had some of the best games. Have they met in HotS yet? they haven't met in a tournament since GSL S4 2012 Ro32 Groups so not yet in HoTS | ||
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Axxis
United States133 Posts
On March 08 2014 04:29 Circumstance wrote: Advancing in 1st place from 6 out of 7 WCS groups. The 2nd-best record vs. Terran than any other player in the group according to Aligulac (and only 2nd-best by a margin of nine hundredths of a percent). Victory over MMA in a Bo5 last time they played offline. Consistent high-level performance against Korean opponents. You mark my words, Vortix WILL advance from the Group of Death. I honestly think he's got a good shot too. Starcraft has gotten so competitive all of the tournaments have been awesome lately. So many good players, so many good games! Man, it's good to be a starcraft player/spectator!! | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Group A] + Mvp > Bunny MMA > Vortix Mvp > MMA Vortix > Bunny Vortix > MMA Mvp and Vortix advance + Show Spoiler [Group B] + jjakji > Grubby Dayshi > Snute jjakji > Dayshi Snute > Grubby Dayshi > Snute jjakji and Dayshi advance + Show Spoiler [Group C] + Welmu > BabyKnight StarDust > TLO StarDust > Welmu TLO > BabyKnight Welmu > TLO StarDust and Welmu advance + Show Spoiler [Group D] + MC > Nerchio San > BlinG San > MC Nerchio > BlinG Nerchio > MC San and Nerchio advance | ||
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klup
France612 Posts
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