TLO, Grubby advance from Group F of WCS EU Ro32 - Page 2

On March 03 2014 19:00 Waxangel wrote:


I broke the date parser :[

On March 03 2014 17:49 Sissors wrote:

Am I the only one who really dislikes these statements? We had the same in previous previews and recaps: Sure the cross server lag is an issue for those playing from Korea. But first of all it is their own decission to play in WCS EU from KR. However what I get more irritated about: again it isn't even considered that they were simply beaten because others played better. Apparantly the idea what a European beats a high level Korean is so weird that it must be lag, it cannot possibly be just skill.

On March 03 2014 19:51 Irrational_Animal wrote:
Well, cross-server lack certainly affects the relevant player both ingame and also in terms of strat selection as you are forced to play styles that are less reliant on micro (TLO said in the winners interview that he kinda knew that Genius had to rely on all ins/cheese). In the PVPs vs Grubby it was obvious that Genius just tried to build up a maxed out deathball as in this case it`s just important to set up a nice concave.
However, cross-server lag shouldn`t be brought up as an excuse for some reasons:
1) you can minimize the impact of it by getting somewhat used to playing it (Hyun is a good example)
2) unlike some Kespa stars, it`s not obvious whether Genius is in fact that much better skillwise as he had no official games in the last months
3) most of Genuis`losses simply came down to bad decision making (think of G3 vs TLO)

On March 03 2014 18:44 mouzChase wrote:


Couldn't agree more just well played by both of them (Grubby and TLO). They worked hard for that so lets not talk about lag, lets talk about progression !

On March 03 2014 23:56 Hez wrote:



I do think though that it's good to mention that there is lag there. If nothing else, it serves to inform people and to maybe spur blizz to do what they can about it. Obviously saying that that is the ONLY reason Genius lost is not ok, but mentioning the server lag is a good thing.

On March 03 2014 23:56 Hez wrote:



I do think though that it's good to mention that there is lag there. If nothing else, it serves to inform people and to maybe spur blizz to do what they can about it. Obviously saying that that is the ONLY reason Genius lost is not ok, but mentioning the server lag is a good thing.

On March 04 2014 02:52 BaneRiders wrote:


Well, that is what Waxangel does, he literally claims that lag is the ONLY reason WCS EU is not overrun by Koreans like WCS AM for example here: WCS EU - Ro32 Group D Preview (Season 1) Repeating such statements or similar ones is certainly disrespectful to EU players, and it makes Waxangle (and whoever else states this on TL) look rather ignorant and/or arrogant, especially seeing how many Koreans based in Europe as well as Korea that failed to make it to PL Group stage 2 so far. Please put some effort in explaining why people won/lost crucial maps (e.g.: San microing like a boss to keep his immortals alive with his warp prism against Miniraser) instead of putting it down to lag, because yeah, it is getting really old now and I don't particularly care to read more of such statements in the future. Hell, I bet people in EU can have severe lag too on a bad day, you don't have to sit in Korea for that.