Edit: Seems like some of the information may be wrong:
On February 06 2014 01:50 EthanAhn wrote: WCG HQ Staff said some of the information is wrong.
ex) Accordingly, each partner can use brand WCG in your country from this point. → Accordingly, each partner can not use brand WCG in your country from this point.
According to OnGamers the organizers of World Cyber Games decided not to run any tournaments in 2014, including the world finals, while the brand is up for use by its international partners.
This year, World Cyber Games Inc. will not organize tournaments and events, including the World Cyber Games finals world.
Accordingly, each partner can use brand WCG in your country from this point. This decision was made by the WCG committee after considering the current global trend as well as the business environment.
This is a shocking news to you, we know, the entire staff of the WCG was surprised.
In 14 years, all you have to do what makes the best WCG become the greatest events in the world.
There are many great moments based on your dedication. Although the brand has disappeared but WCG spirit will remain forever in the hearts of each player and fans.
This moment is very difficult and painful for me. However, I must say goodbye to the WCG.
I appreciate the passion and enthusiasm of you in 14 years.
I hope your company will grow, prosper, and we will soon meet again.
Brad Lee
World Cyber Games Inc. CEO.
While I never watched too much of WCG, it truly is a symbolic tournament in history of many games, not only StarCraft, and it's very sad that after being in service so long it has to go Will be missed.
I think the title is pretty accurate but of course I'm in your hands mods Also I do not know how, or if I can post in multiple game sections at once, so if you could do it would be awsome, thank you.
I would never cheer for a tournament not happening, but WCG just hasn't had the impact that it used to in the last few years, regardless of game. Pretty much all of the popular titles it covered had their own versions of it that were handled better with larger prize pools.
I think that ending here with WCG is a good decision on their part.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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That was hardly necessary.
As bad as WCG has been in recent years, it's still a little disgusting to see people who have no idea what they're talking about distil it to just that.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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That was hardly necessary.
Goodbye WCG, I wanted to see you overhaul everything and become a world class event once again, but alas, it is time we part ways.
I think he was just trying to illustrate that stuff did happen before SC2 came out, even if the poster did it in a kind of condescending way.
As a very passionate fan of both Unreal Tournament and Brood War, WCG used to be the shit yo.
I don't take kindly to people who just discovered competitive gaming in the last year or so taking shots at something they were never around to experience and can't even begin to understand.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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I can play that game too.
On topic, I stopped caring about WCG pretty much once SC2 came out since there was an abundance of foreign tournaments. Back in the days of BW WCG was really the only thing foreigners had a hope for, so it was interesting.
enjoyed every year of WCG especially WarCraft III, the production and atmosphere of WCG is very unique and amazing I did not miss any WVG finals from 2009 so sad to see such news
Kinda sucks for those more niche competitive games, especially those not as popular as the esport ones. Games like Age of Empires and Command and Conquer long ago once had time to shine on the same stage as Brood War and Warcraft 3 at WCG, but times have changed.
On February 05 2014 21:10 T.O.P. wrote: WCG was good back when there was no competition. I do think they will be remembered as part of esports history though.
That's one sad information. Hopefully someone will restructure WCG and fast to make it work this year. I would hate to see WCG have a break for even one year.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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I can play that game too.
And yet I've been following Brood War (and competitive FPS) for much longer. Which was the point actually.
Well if you want to use that logic, I've been following Brood War for much longer. I'm really confused on why you infer so much about someone from their join date.
As someone who works.... worked for WCG at every grand final i woke up to this news from an email at 1:55am in the morning...i would love to respond to this in more detail, but i have to go to work.. and as silly as it sounds im shocked.. even if the event itself felt like it was going downhill.
Rest In Peace. And really, show some respect, this Tournament was very very important for the development of certain Games and Esports like it is today.
Wow looks like you guys know nothing about WCG history. It's been part of esports for many years. For instance, the wc3 tournament has always been one of the most prestigious tourney out there w/o a doubt. It's a sad news for the esport community. I guess Esport as we know it is changing and we may see other interest develop around it with new organizers and so on and so forth.
i never thought WCG was on a professional level. the ladder leagues they use to host for broodwar were glitchy and unorganized. ive always enjoyed the national finals but i feel like it had alot more potential that was never reached.
WCG, died because there are plenty more sc2 tournaments, back in those days, when there was BW, they were the best! Maybe they could go back to bw scene :D
As many pointed out before, sad news but it's for the better. I will definately miss staying up all night for grand finals and listening to Beyond the Game!
For me WCG was WC3 all the way. As Warcraft scene had major lan tournaments as ESWC (summer) , WCG (end of year) and some other tournaments too + WC3L (plus weekly weekend cups). This was 2004-2006(7) and it was golden time of WC3 TFT.
Every major title had prestige and WC3L was all that you need weekly. Shamely global crisis and wage war made wc3 sustainable (+ new games).
Was really heartbreaking to see it fall apart year after year since the days of glory. They shoudl've just appointd a new CEO that would've turn things around. But I guess Brad Lee is too proud to give his baby to anyone else. That's pretty sad.
Will miss WCG, but hard to keep up and be the best against stuff that is supported by the developer. And in the end WCG with that name should only be the best or nothing.
WCG was a thing when there were no other big international tournaments. It was the only occasion for foreigners to go up against Koreans in BW, and someone taking a game off a Korean was an event of great magnitude. However, even back then, WCG's organization and tournament structure was horrible, the maps were ancient, Canada got fewer spots than Kazakhstan and stuff. They also completely sold out to sponsors and put shitty cellphone games in the lineup next to legitimate eSports games like CS, BW and WC3. WCG tried to be the official world championship, but I never saw it as such due to these reasons, and I'm not sad that it's gone.
It is sad to see it go. However, not too surprising. I remember the last WCG, which had bad production and it also coincided with IEM and DH Winter. It clearly didn´t live up to it´s former glory days anymore.
DJWheat said on Lo3 years ago, when there was the whole 'wcg mobile games only' thing, that most of the real eSports people in the WCG organisation had seen the writing on the wall and already jumped ship. I'm sad to see an old staple go but I'm mostly surprised it didn't happen a year or two ago.
Wonder if the rights given to interational partners could be extended so that one of those partners revives the global WCG brand? We'll have to see if any of the partners would ven care to use the brand anymore though...
On February 05 2014 20:42 CreationSoul wrote: WCG who? [/joke]
On a serious note, I was never interested in that tournament for any game. There were always better alternatives.
Regardless of what you think as a fan, winning the WCG was the most important thing for most teams/players back in the day.
Also, regardless of all the shit talking anti-fans are doing, WCG still provided good games considering what they had to work with. Their video quality wasn't as good, and their player pool wasn't as good, but they still had amazing tournaments. People just didn't want to give WCG a chance.
This is just sad . This tournament, or rather this documentary about WCG was my first contact with SC, Esports and Progaming in general and the only reason I am playing and watching sc today.
Ermmm...I do remember those epic WCG in China, with Grubby winning WC3 twice, with Flash playing Jaedong in Broodwar, when ppl far away from BW such as V1lat (famous CIS dota and dota2 caster) set and waited for those games with such big hype! I do remember Na'Vi vs mTw finals playing CS 1.6
It was a great time, and I got a lot to remember...
On February 05 2014 20:42 CreationSoul wrote: WCG who? [/joke]
On a serious note, I was never interested in that tournament for any game. There were always better alternatives.
Thats coz u were late to the esports scene. WCG was the dominant tournament for many years during the birth of esports. Basically games only gain legitimacy if WCG has it during esports founding stage. Every progamer then hoped to be able to qualify to wcg finals. It used to mean a lot to say that you qualified for wcg. It was the olympics of esports.
As time passes, every developer started developing their own tournaments or get sponsors for exclusive tourneys for their games only. Thus wcg started to fade away in importance. Still it remains the most stable and trustworthy tournament organisers ever in the esports. Commercially however it simply cant compete with exclusive tourneys,
Give respect for the tournament people plz , this was back 6-7 year ago the best tournament for Broodwar and I'm feeling that just sad to see what some kids from sc2 say about it here, WCG who ??
the world not started with you, and WCG one of the main reason YOU got many amazing sc1 pro gamer who play sc2 right now, that was a goal for many sc1 pro gamer to play in the wcg and keep playing.
It's glory days have been over for quite some time, so I actually expected it to end this year or next year. I don't know how popular it was for the video games other than Starcraft, though. Maybe those were in better condition?
Edit: Oh I did pay some attention to Warcraft III, and I must also agree with above posters. Poor Moon. I've always been a fan of him, in every game.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
Yep, and the same tournament that awarded more prize money to Adelscott than he could get in his entire SC2 carreer (by reaching the finals that he lost vs PartinG).
WCG was pretty significant on WC3, although they always were criticized for their weird setup, aka best of 1 until semi-finale I believe. It often made for pretty anticlimactic and unsatisfying results, what with the surprises bound with the bo1 format.
Nonetheless, it was the one international tournament that stuck up with WC3 all the way through to the end, and that means something to me, so I'll remember WCG in a positive light overall.
Hopefully someone takes the brand and turns it into something special.
On February 05 2014 23:46 Spaylz wrote: WCG was pretty significant on WC3, although they always were criticized for their weird setup, aka best of 1 until semi-finale I believe. It often made for pretty anticlimactic and unsatisfying results, what with the surprises bound with the bo1 format.
Nonetheless, it was the one international tournament that stuck up with WC3 all the way through to the end, and that means something to me, so I'll remember WCG in a positive light overall.
Hopefully someone takes the brand and turns it into something special.
National partners retain the right to use wcg. Its just the WCG world finals that is being stopped. However, we can infer that the world finals is being stopped coz less and less national partners can survive on wcg. Strong local partners like maybe korea, china will probably still hold national wcg finals.
WCG is gone ? well e-sports in my country is dead then
its funny because WCG Jordan is our #1 e-sports festival , hell I even argue it was the reason why we have e-sports here in the 1st place , without it , I have no idea
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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That was hardly necessary.
Goodbye WCG, I wanted to see you overhaul everything and become a world class event once again, but alas, it is time we part ways.
I think he was just trying to illustrate that stuff did happen before SC2 came out, even if the poster did it in a kind of condescending way.
As a very passionate fan of both Unreal Tournament and Brood War, WCG used to be the shit yo.
I don't take kindly to people who just discovered competitive gaming in the last year or so taking shots at something they were never around to experience and can't even begin to understand.
LOL. Get over yourself, yo. No one gives a fuck what you take kindly to.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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That was hardly necessary.
Goodbye WCG, I wanted to see you overhaul everything and become a world class event once again, but alas, it is time we part ways.
I think he was just trying to illustrate that stuff did happen before SC2 came out, even if the poster did it in a kind of condescending way.
As a very passionate fan of both Unreal Tournament and Brood War, WCG used to be the shit yo.
I don't take kindly to people who just discovered competitive gaming in the last year or so taking shots at something they were never around to experience and can't even begin to understand.
LOL. Get over yourself, yo. No one gives a fuck what you take kindly to.
Without WCG, eSports wouldn't be what it is today. People need to at least acknowledge that and stop acting like it was some shitty tournament that no one cared about.
I doubt it'll be gone for long. Eventually someone will buy the brand and hopefully rebuild it from scratch.
WCG just didn't keep up with marketing and broadcast production quality. If a company, that knows how to run tournaments and broadcast them, picks up the name, I'm sure we could see a successful comeback. MLG, go for it!
As my primary interests in WCG were BW and WC3, I've almost forgotten its existence in the last few years. Sad to see it evaporate into thin air while only very few remember the good days.
I still remember the days where i went to the WCG 2005 national final in Starcraft Broodwar to compete with all my friends there. Even though i didnt win it (iX.pRoDuZ00r won, with ToT)Brain( and TiQ.gGooN 2/3 and finally me after them) up until today it was the best memory i ever had of esports in any kind. There is still this huge wcg2005 poster (wich we.. borrowed from them) hanging in one of my rooms because i am still so glad i took part of it. Its a shame that it went down so far the last years, but we should remember wcg for what it was in its prime.
WCG really lost it's prestiege and most of the people in the organization who had past experience in other games than mobiles had left a long time ago anyway, not that surpising to be perfectly honest. Strange they did not cancel the event sooner.
This is a shocking news to you, we know, the entire staff of the WCG was surprised.
The fuck?
WCG has been a joke for numerous years now...
It used to be so good way back when, but lately... ugh... Good decision not to piss on its legacy anymore.
its really nice decision ... it was a joke tournament with handy games ... thank god its gone ... it destroyed the epicness wcg was in the past never forget wcg finals in germany with strelok ooooowning
They were badass at the time. Their model is out of date now, it was the old esport when top tier teams/players would only meet each other on lan once in a blue moon.
I know WCG has really fallen off over the last years of its running. But it is still sad to see it officially come to an end. I always enjoyed watching WC3 at WCG and the starcraft tournaments even if they didn't have all of the top players they still had a good representation of players from around the world.
I wish they found a way to remodel, everybody knows how hard it is to promote esports in areas where it's not already saturated with private capital, WCG meant alot for the Chinese and I'm sure it meant alot for many other countries too. RIP
As someone who competed in many of the earlier events, the USA WCG was always badly run. I'll likely never forget 2001 where the admin paused the third game between Whear and my younger brother that was currently five minutes in. He had made a mistake in that round was to be best of 1 and gave Whear the win since he had won the first game of the series.
Or how in WCG 2005 they used a Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War patch that was over a month old and only existed for less than a week. (The game was quickly patched again as several unintended changes accidentally made it through that they reverted). I ended up playing only mirror matches with the two OP races I barely had touched since mine was no longer tournament viable with how broken the game was. The strategy still netted me 2nd place but I was so frustrated to lose a month of practice and think I could have possibly won the USA finals if they had not have used a bugged/broken patch. (Note: Dawn of War had 9 different races in total).
The USA part of WCG has always been so horrendous... but it was the only consistent option in existence for RTS gamers. Such a squandered waste of potential and never something that could have raised e-sports to the next level even if it hadn't continued to become more of a joke year after year. I am sad to see it go as I do also have many found memories of it as well and I quite enjoyed the competition when I was younger. But I am not surprised and think this is long overdue with many more professional organizations having come about.
On a side note: I suppose this means there won't be a 3rd season of WCG Ultimate Gamer. I know I'm likely the minority in this sentiment and the show wasn't about serious competition but I still found it oddly entertaining.
WCG HQ Staff said some of the information is wrong.
ex) Accordingly, each partner can use brand WCG in your country from this point. → Accordingly, each partner can not use brand WCG in your country from this point.
On February 05 2014 23:57 Tchado wrote: WCG is gone ? well e-sports in my country is dead then
its funny because WCG Jordan is our #1 e-sports festival , hell I even argue it was the reason why we have e-sports here in the 1st place , without it , I have no idea
But I think WCG Jordan can still happen - there just won't be any global finals follow up.
On February 06 2014 01:50 EthanAhn wrote: WCG HQ Staff said some of the information is wrong.
ex) Accordingly, each partner can use brand WCG in your country from this point. → Accordingly, each partner can not use brand WCG in your country from this point.
In my opinion, it's all about the business decisions... Who did WCG put in charge of this or that region's tournaments / finals, did they have any partners who weren't contributing enough, etc.
And another part of me saw this coming as early as last semester... I think there is a recession coming to eSports, at least until we can find that next big "leap" in competitive gaming.
Such a shame, I loved it at its peak, but also felt there was nothing that filled it's role as the 'Olympics of E-sports' and that is something that sucks to me.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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That was hardly necessary.
As bad as WCG has been in recent years, it's still a little disgusting to see people who have no idea what they're talking about distil it to just that.
The fact you think that the creation date of an account is anything liable to judge someone is very fucking laughable. The guy could've had other accounts throughout the years and in fact been around for much longer than you think.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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That was hardly necessary.
As bad as WCG has been in recent years, it's still a little disgusting to see people who have no idea what they're talking about distil it to just that.
The fact you think that the creation date of an account is anything liable to judge someone is very fucking laughable. The guy could've had other accounts throughout the years and in fact been around for much longer than you think.
I concur. I was lurking here for quite a WHILE before I created my account. It's not like everyone thinks "I may be interested in esports - better create TL.net account ASAP".
It's been complete trash the last couple of years, but I still have fond memories of the 1.6 tournaments and thats how I found out about korean BW so yeah... i'm still a bit sad.
On February 06 2014 03:46 ROOTiaguz wrote: They stopped letting australians into their tournament last year. Bugger 'em!
Its probably there is no wcg australia. I competed in wcg australia during its founding days back in 2001/2002.
From what I heard from the organisers then, wcg is organised in such a way that every country is independent. IE so long as a local partner decides to take on WCG and sponsor their flights/accomodation to the finals, WCG take them in.
So its most likely a case of australian esports dead so no one held a wcg australia. Used to be so grand too. We had wcg qualifiers for every state, then a national finals from state winners. ahhh the good ol days.
On February 06 2014 03:46 ROOTiaguz wrote: They stopped letting australians into their tournament last year. Bugger 'em!
Its probably there is no wcg australia. I competed in wcg australia during its founding days back in 2001/2002.
From what I heard from the organisers then, wcg is organised in such a way that every country is independent. IE so long as a local partner decides to take on WCG and sponsor their flights/accomodation to the finals, WCG take them in.
So its most likely a case of australian esports dead so no one held a wcg australia. Used to be so grand too. We had wcg qualifiers for every state, then a national finals from state winners. ahhh the good ol days.
Oh. Well. Bugger Australia then. Crap country for jerks.
On February 06 2014 03:46 ROOTiaguz wrote: They stopped letting australians into their tournament last year. Bugger 'em!
Its probably there is no wcg australia. I competed in wcg australia during its founding days back in 2001/2002.
From what I heard from the organisers then, wcg is organised in such a way that every country is independent. IE so long as a local partner decides to take on WCG and sponsor their flights/accomodation to the finals, WCG take them in.
So its most likely a case of australian esports dead so no one held a wcg australia. Used to be so grand too. We had wcg qualifiers for every state, then a national finals from state winners. ahhh the good ol days.
It's something like that aye. I made really vague inquiries as to what obtaining the Ireland WCG license would entail, iirc it's several thousand dollars which is quite hefty for the smaller regions, especially given the flight costs after that
I didn't watch it much but i have a great respect for this tournament. Whenever i wanted to watch eSport of a game i didn't know much about, i would be watching the WCG finals. I did it for Street Fighter, W3, BW, Ut, ... Sad to see it goes even if i wasn't a huge follower.
This is so sad I was lucky enough to participate in the 2004 grand finals in San Francisco. It was my first real experience meeting all of my international IRC friends in person. We laughed, we drank, we cried. I still keep in touch with some of them to this day. That's what WCG was all about, it was something different and something special..
On February 06 2014 02:47 BreAKerTV wrote: In my opinion, it's all about the business decisions... Who did WCG put in charge of this or that region's tournaments / finals, did they have any partners who weren't contributing enough, etc.
And another part of me saw this coming as early as last semester... I think there is a recession coming to eSports, at least until we can find that next big "leap" in competitive gaming.
Hey I watched your video. I really respect people who contribute to the scene! Thank you! You were really wrong though in your statement about the root of American competition in WCG. PC FPS's started consistent e-sports communities in this country and on this continent. CS, Quake, UT , AVP2.... Even network linking two PC's together to play a Deathmatch of Doom . Oh ya, and don't forget about that brood war thing
I think you guys are overlooking the ramifications a little.
Sure, WCG was never an illustrious SC2 event, and was always overshadowed by other tournaments worldwide. . . but it did offer a unique chance for players of every country to compete, kind of like the olympics of SC2. It was really the only tournament you had a chance no-namers representing their country passionately on the big stage. Every other global tournament has been usurped by Korean dominance, for better or worse.
It really makes me sad for non main stream esports gamers. I always thought crossfire, amongst less popular, games were not really serious and more towards casual gamers. I've never been more mistaken.
I had the opportunity to spent 9 days in China with the Crossfire team from Canada. They were competitors too, but they didn't stream because their scene was smaller, they didn't travel all the time because their scene didn't have many tournaments.
Crossfire is one of the biggest game in Asia. It's free to play and gerenated more revenue in 2013 than League of Legends. They're about to go to china again for another tournament but with WCG gone, they'll only have 1 international tournament or less and representing Canada won't even be something they'll be able to put on their resume.
As for me, it was a 9 year long dream since Warcraft 3 to one day represent Canada at a WCG. It sounds cliché but I broke down after qualifying for China last September. There's something powerful about trying to make your country proud. Competing for your country against the world was and is an appealing concept to me.
I can't help but think, what if Riot would have let their LCS players play in it? Would it have been a deal breaker? Would they still be alive if they took better care of their online production?
Going to their last event in Kunshan, China was really awesome and you could clearly see that WCG knew what they are doing with 3 stages
WCG has been around for so long, and was essentially only a marketing arm of Samsung. I really feel bad for all the newer gamers that treated WCG with apathy given its actual stature in its beginning and formative years.
There have been some epic matches and content for many different games and their subsequent genres that have gone on throughout the years; not to mention all the region-specific content and matches.
On February 06 2014 08:37 desRow wrote: It really makes me sad for non main stream esports gamers. I always thought crossfire, amongst less popular, games were not really serious and more towards casual gamers. I've never been more mistaken.
I had the opportunity to spent 9 days in China with the Crossfire team from Canada. They were competitors too, but they didn't stream because their scene was smaller, they didn't travel all the time because their scene didn't have many tournaments.
Crossfire is one of the biggest game in Asia. It's free to play and gerenated more revenue in 2013 than League of Legends. They're about to go to china again for another tournament but with WCG gone, they'll only have 1 international tournament or less and representing Canada won't even be something they'll be able to put on their resume.
As for me, it was a 9 year long dream since Warcraft 3 to one day represent Canada at a WCG. It sounds cliché but I broke down after qualifying for China last September. There's something powerful about trying to make your country proud. Competing for your country against the world was and is an appealing concept to me.
I can't help but think, what if Riot would have let their LCS players play in it? Would it have been a deal breaker? Would they still be alive if they took better care of their online production?
Going to their last event in Kunshan, China was really awesome and you could clearly see that WCG knew what they are doing with 3 stages
Good night sweet prince,
RIP WCG 2000-2014
That's a nice post, I mean in this increasingly cosmopolitan age it's oft-overlooked what representing your nation can do, it has this nice intangible feeling that comes along with it.
As an Irishman as well, something like WCG would have been one of our rare opportunities to get to mix it with the big boys, it mightn't be as big a deal for the established E-sports nations, but WCG was something to work towards way back in the day I guess.
On February 06 2014 09:11 oneofthem wrote: wonder if this tourney would have fared better with better management.
The year they said, "We're going to mobile games," and it wasn't an April fools joke--it was announced on April 1st--that's when I knew it was officially no more.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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That was hardly necessary.
Goodbye WCG, I wanted to see you overhaul everything and become a world class event once again, but alas, it is time we part ways.
I think he was just trying to illustrate that stuff did happen before SC2 came out, even if the poster did it in a kind of condescending way.
As a very passionate fan of both Unreal Tournament and Brood War, WCG used to be the shit yo.
I don't take kindly to people who just discovered competitive gaming in the last year or so taking shots at something they were never around to experience and can't even begin to understand.
Really MoP ? Can't you stop behind an elitist. You don't even know if the guy is just joking or not... I joined TL something like 2years ago and i lurk TL waaaaayyy before SC2 was even announced. So joined date is nothing indicative.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
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That was hardly necessary.
Goodbye WCG, I wanted to see you overhaul everything and become a world class event once again, but alas, it is time we part ways.
I think he was just trying to illustrate that stuff did happen before SC2 came out, even if the poster did it in a kind of condescending way.
As a very passionate fan of both Unreal Tournament and Brood War, WCG used to be the shit yo.
I don't take kindly to people who just discovered competitive gaming in the last year or so taking shots at something they were never around to experience and can't even begin to understand.
Really MoP ? Can't you stop behind an elitist. You don't even know if the guy is just joking or not... I joined TL something like 2years ago and i lurk TL waaaaayyy before SC2 was even announced. So joined date is nothing indicative.
I doubt hes refering to his join date. No one checks those anyway.
Its his ignorance of wcg that shows. Wcg was the premiere tournament for virtually every game from 2001-2008. Anyone then would surely know it. No tournament can even come close in prestige. National wcgs also held dota tournaments way before any other organisers did.
It was the days when game developers lobbied hard to be included in WCG finals. It was that prestigious. Even koreans consider a wcg on par with msl/osl. Furthermore many non mainstream games found wcg to be the premiere tournament. Many of the smaller regions too celebrate their national wcg as the culmination of esports in their respective country.
It was something very special and seeing progamers from around the world gather for many different games was a sight to behold.
On February 05 2014 20:48 SomethingWitty wrote: WCG? Oh, you mean that tournament where CombatEx took a game off Parting?
Joined TL.net Sunday, 26th of May 2013
That was hardly necessary.
Goodbye WCG, I wanted to see you overhaul everything and become a world class event once again, but alas, it is time we part ways.
I think he was just trying to illustrate that stuff did happen before SC2 came out, even if the poster did it in a kind of condescending way.
As a very passionate fan of both Unreal Tournament and Brood War, WCG used to be the shit yo.
I don't take kindly to people who just discovered competitive gaming in the last year or so taking shots at something they were never around to experience and can't even begin to understand.
Really MoP ? Can't you stop behind an elitist. You don't even know if the guy is just joking or not... I joined TL something like 2years ago and i lurk TL waaaaayyy before SC2 was even announced. So joined date is nothing indicative.
I doubt hes refering to his join date. No one checks those anyway.
Its his ignorance of wcg that shows. Wcg was the premiere tournament for virtually every game from 2001-2008. Anyone then would surely know it. No tournament can even come close in prestige. National wcgs also held dota tournaments way before any other organisers did.
It was the days when game developers lobbied hard to be included in WCG finals. It was that prestigious. Even koreans consider a wcg on par with msl/osl. Furthermore many non mainstream games found wcg to be the premiere tournament. Many of the smaller regions too celebrate their national wcg as the culmination of esports in their respective country.
It was something very special and seeing progamers from around the world gather for many different games was a sight to behold.
Well from what i got, WCG doesn't come to an end. We can still have some. Been a while i watched one.
sad... wcg was the first to promote esports on the whole new level... following wcg since 2001 when we participated on our national bw and cs category and followed it ever since... people who said nasty things about wcg were obviously SC2 elitists "care-for-sc2 only as the only esports"... and those who weren't part/following since the infant stages of esports...
EPT
Will be missed.
Also I do not know how, or if I can post in multiple game sections at once, so if you could do it would be awsome, thank you.
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