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tar
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany991 Posts
February 04 2014 14:18 GMT
#41
I also go with better late than never. maybe the free arcade will bring more ppl in, even so atm it feels really lonely there compared to the early WoL times
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 04 2014 14:19 GMT
#42
I'm curious to see what comes out of this. Maybe I'll start playing some arcade games again. I used to play a lot early on in sc2 but not so much lately
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27054 Posts
February 04 2014 14:20 GMT
#43
On February 04 2014 23:17 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
If only something that isn't terribly generic and derivative could win...

Does anyone remember even as far back as the beta when people would make third person and top-down arena shooters? When some guy/team more or less recreated Metal Slug in the SC2 engine? What about that first-person shooter that Husky showcased on his channel? Isn't it fucking sad that those fun things were swept away in favor of more DotA-clones and TDs that bring nothing new to the table?

This seems like a step in the right direction, certainly, but we'll have to wait and see if it motivates people to work on such ambitious projects again, and more to the point if Blizzard can give them enough exposure to have people actually *play* those arcade games.

Yeah that's a good point. Those were cool because they showcased the actual power of the tools at the modder's exposure.

It's essentially mobile/tablet gaming in a nutshell. Derivative game after derivative game that people go nuts over, but will call me a nerd for liking Starcraft, a game of real depth. Go figure :p
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 04 2014 14:29 GMT
#44
On February 04 2014 23:20 Wombat_NI wrote:
Yeah that's a good point. Those were cool because they showcased the actual power of the tools at the modder's exposure.


And it's such a powerful tool too... I used to follow SC2Mapster for a while, and people were coming up with all kinds of crazy shit. There was even a contest to see who could make the coolest hero skill/ability, and it's insane what people were coming up with, it actually looked and felt fucking amazing. What became of that? Who knows because nobody plays that kind of games on arcade.

On February 04 2014 23:20 Wombat_NI wrote:
It's essentially mobile/tablet gaming in a nutshell. Derivative game after derivative game that people go nuts over, but will call me a nerd for liking Starcraft, a game of real depth. Go figure :p


And it's so fucking sad. So fucking sad. It doesn't even have to be what I mentioned, like I remember playing various kinds of horde mode co-op survival games, some with different playable classes, some with powerups, some with other cool mechanics vis-a-vis repairable barricades and having to use torches/glowsticks to be able to see in the dark. Co-op horde mode games are still all the rage, so why did those never get popular?

I don't know man, it just feels like such a massive waste, that there should be this powerful and relatively simple engine that comes with so many premade assets, that there should be skilled people in the community who can make use of that, but that nobody should care of anything but the simplest and most dumbed down of "games".

"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Butterednuts
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States859 Posts
February 04 2014 14:37 GMT
#45
Neat, though 4 months to create a game; most devs would rather learn an actual language, develop something mobile or free and make just as much as first place with the potential to make even more.
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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 14:40:09
February 04 2014 14:39 GMT
#46
On February 04 2014 23:37 Butterednuts wrote:
Neat, though 4 months to create a game; most devs would rather learn an actual language, develop something mobile or free and make just as much as first place with the potential to make even more.


People have done it in less time during the beta, and for no pay. Just saying. ;p

I'd say this isn't for the people who have no idea how to make a mod/game, but rather the mappers who have the skill and the expertise but aren't motivated to put in the effort because nobody gives a shit about their maps. :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
February 04 2014 14:43 GMT
#47
Kabel, go and submit Starbow
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
reapsen
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany559 Posts
February 04 2014 14:48 GMT
#48
I think it would be better to organize some kind of

"KING OF THE ARCADE" tournament with that 15000$

I mean the amazing games are already there, they just need to be played.

So instead of incentivizing developers to make even more, it should incentivize the players to play them.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
February 04 2014 14:51 GMT
#49
On February 04 2014 23:48 reapsen wrote:
I think it would be better to organize some kind of

"KING OF THE ARCADE" tournament with that 15000$

I mean the amazing games are already there, they just need to be played.

So instead of incentivizing developers to make even more, it should incentivize the players to play them.


If players only turn up because there is money involved, they will leave after the tournament is done. If developers create a good map or mode, players will stick around to play said map or mode.
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Sufinsil
Profile Joined January 2011
United States760 Posts
February 04 2014 14:52 GMT
#50
The game should support at least one, but no more than six players.
You can make a single player RPG or a battle-arena game, but we don’t want the lobby size to be too big. Six is a good maximum for us.


Seems a bit restrictive. So much for Kobold Tribes, Strikers or Chu Chu Train sized games.
Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 14:57:31
February 04 2014 14:57 GMT
#51
Ok, my body is ready: 'Cärböt - the gäme'!
You called for it, Blizzard, you really did!
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 04 2014 14:57 GMT
#52
On February 04 2014 23:51 Caihead wrote:
If developers create a good map or mode, players will stick around to play said map or mode.


Bullshit.

Tons of good maps have been created, most of them died out, if they even had the fortune to be played by more than a dozen people to begin with.

Again, it's a good idea for Blizzard to do this, but at the same time the biggest problem is that people tend to only play the simplest and most accessible games around. And this also raises the issue, how exactly will Blizzard choose a winner for this contest? Is it popularity? Because then they'd only breed the same parasitic trend that plagues flash games and mobile games as of late...
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 04 2014 15:00 GMT
#53
starbow ez money

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just jk blizzard will never admit
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Holdenintherye
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada1441 Posts
February 04 2014 15:10 GMT
#54
Don't know why this is met with such disdain, wasn't incentives for the people who make arcade games what the community wanted?
I think this is a fantastic idea and hope we'll get some cool new mods out of this.
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if they do this type of thing again, maybe Blizzard could offer an internship type of thing to the winner, i think that'd be a cool idea
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27054 Posts
February 04 2014 15:12 GMT
#55
On February 04 2014 23:57 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
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On February 04 2014 23:51 Caihead wrote:
If developers create a good map or mode, players will stick around to play said map or mode.


Bullshit.

Tons of good maps have been created, most of them died out, if they even had the fortune to be played by more than a dozen people to begin with.

Again, it's a good idea for Blizzard to do this, but at the same time the biggest problem is that people tend to only play the simplest and most accessible games around. And this also raises the issue, how exactly will Blizzard choose a winner for this contest? Is it popularity? Because then they'd only breed the same parasitic trend that plagues flash games and mobile games as of late...

It's a small but crucial thing. Inability to name your own custom lobbies, or having a list of lobbies to join.

Imagine, you go Starbow, instead of being auto-matched with somebody, you pick from a list of titles like 'Ex B-Minus BW Player 1v1' or 'Complete Noob 1v1!' and it really makes it easier to find people of equivalent familiarity with the game than you.

It's not foolproof by any means, but I hate the removal of that kind of functionality and automating all this kind of thing, unless you find people in a channel and organise on that behalf.

It was the same when you grow tired of ladder and want to practice 1v1. You have to go around channels whoring for games, in the old Bnet you could make 'Diamond P wants 1v1 vT' and get people joining you for that.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-04 15:13:54
February 04 2014 15:13 GMT
#56
On February 05 2014 00:00 Ej_ wrote:
starbow ez money

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just jk blizzard will never admit


starbow cant even be considered an Arcade map.

And about the innovative maps sometimes you see with First-person or wtv using ASWD keys most fail cause it lags like hell
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ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
February 04 2014 15:17 GMT
#57
I can't tell if the ppl in here are dead serious about "lol just take 4 months to learn new language and make mobile game from scratch and ez 10K". Do ppl actually think that's how it works? lol

On topic, this is wicked cool, especially with the new tools they've released. The SC2 map engine is sick powerful and has tons of potential, hoping to see some great stuff out there
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
February 04 2014 15:27 GMT
#58
On February 04 2014 20:23 Killmouse wrote:
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On February 04 2014 20:21 algue wrote:
Lol that's ridiculous. If they want to boost the modding community of the game they should update their tutorials and creat new ones. When you don't know anything about mapping the Sc2 map editor is scarier than counter strike's source SDK...

Blizzard should spend their money on tutorials and detailed descriptions of every element of the World Edit.

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/game/maps-and-mods/#map-tutorials

tutorials

also
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I didn't know about the tutorials, those seem really nicely made to start some modding.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 04 2014 15:31 GMT
#59
Very cool.
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soon.Cloak
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States983 Posts
February 04 2014 15:34 GMT
#60
On February 04 2014 21:51 Heartland wrote:
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On February 04 2014 20:27 Zealously wrote:
On February 04 2014 20:13 dehydrogenaza wrote:
Or you could just learn AS3 or even JS with something like Phaser, take your gameplay idea to the web + mobile free market and make pretty much guaranteed 7k (= 1st prize) for those 4 months (including learning from scratch).


Or people could stop doing game-related things and get a full-time job, maybe two, and make more than 7k (= 1st prize) for those for months, right?


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