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yokohama
Profile Joined February 2005
United States1116 Posts
January 22 2014 01:59 GMT
#61
I am happy about the option for BW music, and any patch that can improve the state of SC2 is nice. However most of the other features do absolutely nothing for me personally. I don't play custom games, I don't have friends that would play custom games if they were free, and I don't have a group/clan to utilize icons, and if I did I still wouldn't really care much about them, though I think it could be kind of neat for team logos if used maturely. Hopefully 2.2 has something I can be happier about.
althaz
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia1001 Posts
January 22 2014 02:03 GMT
#62
On January 22 2014 09:41 juicyjames wrote:
+ Show Spoiler [Speaking of BW sounds] +
GameHeart:

Hey everyone! Yesterday I tweeted about GameHeart Keyboards, a new feature coming to GameHeart alongside the GameHeart extension mod. And today I wanted to showoff GameHeart 'Nostalgia Mode'.

I was planning to wait an let it be a surprise but I have some bad news and I thought showing this off now might soften the blow. The bad news is that I have decided to wait and release the GameHeart extension mod in a few days once the patch is out in all regions just to make my life a little easier, and to give me a bit more time to polish this feature as well as keyboards and some of the other modules.

About 'Nostalgia Mode': It was an idea sent to me by /u/ESPORTS_HotBid and it basically replaces many of the sounds from SC2 with the iconic audio from Brood War. It only does this for observers, players still hear SC2 audio and it is of course optional and off by default. I thought this feature might go nicely with the newly added remasted Brood War music that Blizzard is adding in the patch!

Sorry again about the delay on the extension mod, but it is packed with new features and it makes GameHeart easier to use than ever!


This is what Blizzard needs to do - but for players. I've been playing more Broodwar than SC2 lately and the sounds are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better in the original game.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46140 Posts
January 22 2014 02:12 GMT
#63
I have new portraits now! :D Although I'll still be keeping my Professor Protoss picture forever <3
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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
January 22 2014 02:13 GMT
#64
Blizzard post to clarify whats free
http://www.blizzposts.com/topic/en/228804/patch-21-free-arcade

+ Show Spoiler +
Hi everyone,

With Patch 2.1, all players now have access to any maps that depend on Heart of the Swarm or Wings of Liberty. This includes both the Arcade and Custom Games.

This means that everyone, including Starter Edition players who have not purchased StarCraft II, can now play any user created map or mod.

Below I will cover some topics that have already come up.

Custom Games
Not only are all maps in the Arcade freely accessible, but all games under the Custom Games section are now free as well.

Note that Custom Games are still filtered by your Expansion Level, so if a map directly depends on Liberty or Swarm Multi it will only appear in the list if you are set to that same expansion level in your gameplay options.

Publishing
In order to publish a map or mod that depends on Wings of Liberty or Heart of the Swarm, you must still have the appropriate license(s) for those dependencies. This has not changed in 2.1.

I hope this clarifies how dependencies and licenses work in Patch 2.1. If you have any related questions, feel free to ask and I will try to update this post with more details.

Thanks!
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
January 22 2014 02:13 GMT
#65
Wonder what the new loading tips are.
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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
January 22 2014 02:19 GMT
#66
I like the music a lot haha... I listen to the Terran theme songs from BW in regular non-video game settings like driving etc. Anyway, I'm looking forward to the Game Heart and extension mode development stuff the most. I think this patch is 'exciting' in the long run -- that is, there is nothing immediately that awesome, but in the future, THIS PATCH will be a land mark moment in the ESports History books of eSports hiStory
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
January 22 2014 02:28 GMT
#67
On January 22 2014 08:27 OopsOopsBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:43 drop271 wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:28 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:24 tili wrote:
It's worth noting that league percentage fixes were also included, but not in the patch notes:

Source:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/11306300708#1


Are there any details on this? I mean people are complaining about it but is something really technical wrong with it or is it just to make people more happy by putting them into higher leagues or something like that.


There seems to be a lot of anectodal evidence that things are broken rather than just changed in an unfavourable way.

For example, Blizzard has said (in the december leagues/ladders blog) that MMR decay should at most have the same impact as losing 6 or 7 games.

But, I logged on and played a game on my SEA account after 3 or so months of inactivity. Previous league? Diamond. New placement after one match? Silver. So, its obvious the effect is more than a couple of games, and its unfair on a silver player to have to face diamond level mechanics.

Worse still, it takes a lot longer to climb out of low leagues since you constantly play diamond/masters players throughout silver and gold, which is absurd


Yup. Pretty good summary of the problem.

Not really. Due to the player base drainage, more GM and master are now occupying diamonds and platinum because the ladder rank distribution no longer allow enough slots for upper levels. It is only natural for other leagues to get bumped down.


Bumped down a little sure.

But to the point where 86% of the playerbase is in the bottom 3 leagues? That's not indicative of natural trickle down, that's indicative of shit being broken.
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RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 02:33:42
January 22 2014 02:33 GMT
#68
Hmm if I had WoL already, do I need to download the starter edition to access 2.1 Patch?
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 02:37:36
January 22 2014 02:35 GMT
#69
So instead of actually fixing the balance of the game they plan on just arbitrarily promoting enough players from the under-performing "races" (i.e. Terran) to make it seem like there is an equal spread in every league? How does that help things at all? It's just a cosmetic change to an actual problem, designed only to boost the egos of a few players who can say they were "good enough" to get promoted..I guess I shouldn't have expected much from Blizzard :/
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16123 Posts
January 22 2014 02:35 GMT
#70
On January 22 2014 11:33 RiZu wrote:
Hmm if I had WoL already, do I need to download the starter edition to access 2.1 Patch?


I don't think so, I think you'll be good just with WoL by itself. Worth checking though.
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AKnopf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany259 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 02:38:16
January 22 2014 02:36 GMT
#71
On January 22 2014 11:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 11:33 RiZu wrote:
Hmm if I had WoL already, do I need to download the starter edition to access 2.1 Patch?


I don't think so, I think you'll be good just with WoL by itself. Worth checking though.


No, its a regular patch that will be downloaded as usual.

@Topic: What a great patch. I'm looking forward to it! Cant wait to play BGH on a normal map


Edit: What has happened here? Originally I quoted a post that asked whether you need to download the starter edition to have the patch. No this post is gone.
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RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
January 22 2014 02:38 GMT
#72
On January 22 2014 11:36 AKnopf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 11:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
On January 22 2014 11:33 RiZu wrote:
Hmm if I had WoL already, do I need to download the starter edition to access 2.1 Patch?


I don't think so, I think you'll be good just with WoL by itself. Worth checking though.


No, its a regular patch that will be downloaded as usual.

@Topic: What a great patch. I'm looking forward to it! Cant wait to play BGH on a normal map

On January 22 2014 11:35 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 11:33 RiZu wrote:
Hmm if I had WoL already, do I need to download the starter edition to access 2.1 Patch?


I don't think so, I think you'll be good just with WoL by itself. Worth checking though.

Thank, that helped alot.
Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 03:10:37
January 22 2014 03:09 GMT
#73
So is it being release on the KR server soon or in about a day's time?
Here, Blizzard wrote: Wednesday, Jan 22 – Korea and Taiwan, China

Is that Jan 22 KST or either Pacific or Eastern US time?
It should be happening soon if it is KST as it is now after noon there, but it could be many hours away if it is PST or EST, because it's only around Jan 21, 7-10PM in the USA at present.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27065 Posts
January 22 2014 03:13 GMT
#74
Am I retarded, can't get onto either the EU or NA servers atm and am in a Skype call with a friend who is currently on NA? Apart from that brief whine though I'm really excited to try this stuff out!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12740 Posts
January 22 2014 03:27 GMT
#75
the all unit explode is an AMAZING extension mod, highly recommended (also don't forget to sent early workers to do economy "harassment") :D
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Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
January 22 2014 04:20 GMT
#76
Pretty cool patch so far.
Ikidomari
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia485 Posts
January 22 2014 04:48 GMT
#77
On January 22 2014 08:36 CYfiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:49 sob3k wrote:
Can you download the remastered BW music anywhere? I'd love to have the mp3's...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0iww4j
In mp3 format.

tried using the link, after it started downloading it caused my google chrome to crash, and crash immediately upon launch until I nuked the download, anyone else got this problem or is it just me?
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Nerevar
Profile Joined January 2013
547 Posts
January 22 2014 04:59 GMT
#78
On January 22 2014 11:35 Survivor61316 wrote:
So instead of actually fixing the balance of the game they plan on just arbitrarily promoting enough players from the under-performing "races" (i.e. Terran) to make it seem like there is an equal spread in every league? How does that help things at all? It's just a cosmetic change to an actual problem, designed only to boost the egos of a few players who can say they were "good enough" to get promoted..I guess I shouldn't have expected much from Blizzard :/

They're not doing that at all. You're completely misunderstanding how they're readjusting the ladder.

And balance changes have come separate from feature additions for a while now.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-22 05:02:02
January 22 2014 04:59 GMT
#79
On January 22 2014 11:35 Survivor61316 wrote:
So instead of actually fixing the balance of the game they plan on just arbitrarily promoting enough players from the under-performing "races" (i.e. Terran) to make it seem like there is an equal spread in every league? How does that help things at all? It's just a cosmetic change to an actual problem, designed only to boost the egos of a few players who can say they were "good enough" to get promoted..I guess I shouldn't have expected much from Blizzard :/

I could link you to many different threads proving the game is statistically balanced, but you could find them yourself just as easy. There is one on the front page of SC2 General right now translated from Korean and originally created by a Korean netizen pegging all matchups at 54-46 win rates or lower (lower being closer to 50/50 I mean). It even shows how the last patch improved balance slightly.

"My race isn't represented enough in X league" is an interesting form of balance whining, but it isn't particularly justified because you cannot filter out enough variables - maybe more skilled players play X race. Maybe more people in general play Y race. Maybe more people in KR are better at Z race. Maybe, maybe, maybe using league representation as an indicator of balance is a horrible idea.

SC2 is statistically more balanced at professional level right now than Chess (in games that aren't a draw, White wins 55-45 against Black on average).

TL;DR: If you're havin' balance problems, I feel bad you son. SC2 got 99 problems, but balance ain't one.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27065 Posts
January 22 2014 05:06 GMT
#80
Well it kind of does given how fucking hard Terran is to actually play at present in TvP. It's not borne out by statistics as its hard to quantify, but the effort required proportionally, especially at lower leagues is frankly ridiculous
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