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Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3685 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 23:09:51
January 21 2014 23:08 GMT
#21
On January 22 2014 07:49 sob3k wrote:
Can you download the remastered BW music anywhere? I'd love to have the mp3's...


I'm sure blizzard will gladly allow you to purchase it via their shop soon(tm). Meaning that you will find it around your favorite internet sites soon + 5 minutes.

@CYfiri: If they release it as one it should.
CYfiri
Profile Joined February 2013
Sweden25 Posts
January 21 2014 23:09 GMT
#22
Will starbow work as a extension mod?
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
January 21 2014 23:17 GMT
#23
Yes! So good finally~!
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 23:21:52
January 21 2014 23:20 GMT
#24
It looks like you might lose bonus pool on losses anymore. I just lost 3 games in a row and my bonus pool hasn't moved at all.

By this I mean when you used to lose they would use your bonus pool to reduce the number of points lost on a loss. It doesn't appear that way anymore.
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 21 2014 23:24 GMT
#25
It's a bit weird. They are selling this, marketing wise, like it's a way for people to create their own games, but everything in the arcade is still under the Starcraft 2 EULA, which clearly said everything is still a property of Blizzard.
Because you know, they don't want another DotA to slip out of their hands.
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OopsOopsBaby
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Singapore3425 Posts
January 21 2014 23:27 GMT
#26
On January 22 2014 07:47 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:43 drop271 wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:28 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:24 tili wrote:
It's worth noting that league percentage fixes were also included, but not in the patch notes:

Source:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/11306300708#1


Are there any details on this? I mean people are complaining about it but is something really technical wrong with it or is it just to make people more happy by putting them into higher leagues or something like that.


There seems to be a lot of anectodal evidence that things are broken rather than just changed in an unfavourable way.

For example, Blizzard has said (in the december leagues/ladders blog) that MMR decay should at most have the same impact as losing 6 or 7 games.

But, I logged on and played a game on my SEA account after 3 or so months of inactivity. Previous league? Diamond. New placement after one match? Silver. So, its obvious the effect is more than a couple of games, and its unfair on a silver player to have to face diamond level mechanics.

Worse still, it takes a lot longer to climb out of low leagues since you constantly play diamond/masters players throughout silver and gold, which is absurd


Yup. Pretty good summary of the problem.

Not really. Due to the player base drainage, more GM and master are now occupying diamonds and platinum because the ladder rank distribution no longer allow enough slots for upper levels. It is only natural for other leagues to get bumped down.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 21 2014 23:27 GMT
#27
The free arcade thing can be such a boon. Designers make it and can play with their family and friends the next day and interest others in teaming up with them. It's launching into an already competitive gaming scene, but who knows.

It's a chance for Blizzard to sell many more copies of SC2 (and then another chance to get the expo too). Friends play arcades, try other arcades, hear about the ladder competition etc, and want their own copy. It's already installed, so 5 clicks away from laddering etc.
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jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 23:29:49
January 21 2014 23:28 GMT
#28
i have been waiting for the BW soundtrack, now i can turn music back on lol

as for the free arcade, its a start but i dont know if it will draw more users in to buy the game or play it.
CYfiri
Profile Joined February 2013
Sweden25 Posts
January 21 2014 23:36 GMT
#29
On January 22 2014 07:49 sob3k wrote:
Can you download the remastered BW music anywhere? I'd love to have the mp3's...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0iww4j
In mp3 format.
13th Marine
Profile Joined January 2011
United States344 Posts
January 21 2014 23:36 GMT
#30
Glorious BW music...my passion is restored.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
January 21 2014 23:39 GMT
#31
On January 22 2014 08:36 CYfiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:49 sob3k wrote:
Can you download the remastered BW music anywhere? I'd love to have the mp3's...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0iww4j
In mp3 format.


Thanks, downloading - is the source mp3? How'd you get the files?
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Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
January 21 2014 23:39 GMT
#32
On January 22 2014 08:24 Noocta wrote:
It's a bit weird. They are selling this, marketing wise, like it's a way for people to create their own games, but everything in the arcade is still under the Starcraft 2 EULA, which clearly said everything is still a property of Blizzard.
Because you know, they don't want another DotA to slip out of their hands.


Nothing in the Terms of Service stops "another DotA" situation from happening, Blizzard owns mods distributed on their service, made with their tools and using their assets played with SC2, if you want to make a carbon copy of a game you've made in SC2 you can unless you're going to call it "Starcraft Tower Defense" or some other trademarked term.
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
January 21 2014 23:41 GMT
#33
On January 22 2014 07:43 drop271 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:28 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:24 tili wrote:
It's worth noting that league percentage fixes were also included, but not in the patch notes:

Source:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/11306300708#1


Are there any details on this? I mean people are complaining about it but is something really technical wrong with it or is it just to make people more happy by putting them into higher leagues or something like that.


There seems to be a lot of anectodal evidence that things are broken rather than just changed in an unfavourable way.

For example, Blizzard has said (in the december leagues/ladders blog) that MMR decay should at most have the same impact as losing 6 or 7 games.

But, I logged on and played a game on my SEA account after 3 or so months of inactivity. Previous league? Diamond. New placement after one match? Silver. So, its obvious the effect is more than a couple of games, and its unfair on a silver player to have to face diamond level mechanics.

Worse still, it takes a lot longer to climb out of low leagues since you constantly play diamond/masters players throughout silver and gold, which is absurd


So the ladder is still retarded right?
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CYfiri
Profile Joined February 2013
Sweden25 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 23:42:32
January 21 2014 23:42 GMT
#34
On January 22 2014 08:39 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 08:36 CYfiri wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:49 sob3k wrote:
Can you download the remastered BW music anywhere? I'd love to have the mp3's...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0iww4j
In mp3 format.


Thanks, downloading - is the source mp3? How'd you get the files?

Source is in .ogg format
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
January 21 2014 23:43 GMT
#35
well, since I can't make the extension mod I wanted to make, since rotating starting point still don't seem to work;
any other extension mods that could use making and aren't already being worked on by someone more august?
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JeanBob
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada295 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-21 23:46:07
January 21 2014 23:44 GMT
#36
On January 22 2014 08:41 Liman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 07:43 drop271 wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:28 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:24 tili wrote:
It's worth noting that league percentage fixes were also included, but not in the patch notes:

Source:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/11306300708#1


Are there any details on this? I mean people are complaining about it but is something really technical wrong with it or is it just to make people more happy by putting them into higher leagues or something like that.


There seems to be a lot of anectodal evidence that things are broken rather than just changed in an unfavourable way.

For example, Blizzard has said (in the december leagues/ladders blog) that MMR decay should at most have the same impact as losing 6 or 7 games.

But, I logged on and played a game on my SEA account after 3 or so months of inactivity. Previous league? Diamond. New placement after one match? Silver. So, its obvious the effect is more than a couple of games, and its unfair on a silver player to have to face diamond level mechanics.

Worse still, it takes a lot longer to climb out of low leagues since you constantly play diamond/masters players throughout silver and gold, which is absurd


So the ladder is still retarded right?


Yep, but Blizzard acknowledged it and is supposedly working on it. Quote from a community manager from the battle.net forum:
"We're looking into what's happening.

We'll have more information for you in a little while."

So it might still be long.
(Source: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/11354455348?page=2#38)

EDIT: If you mean "even with redistribution working", then I say we're better to wait and see. My gues is it will still be broken, but I'm trying to be optimistic anyway.
"Teach the ones below you something you have learnt and learn from the ones above you." -Sonata Arctica
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
January 21 2014 23:47 GMT
#37
On January 22 2014 08:44 JeanBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 08:41 Liman wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:43 drop271 wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:28 Micro_Jackson wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:24 tili wrote:
It's worth noting that league percentage fixes were also included, but not in the patch notes:

Source:
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/11306300708#1


Are there any details on this? I mean people are complaining about it but is something really technical wrong with it or is it just to make people more happy by putting them into higher leagues or something like that.


There seems to be a lot of anectodal evidence that things are broken rather than just changed in an unfavourable way.

For example, Blizzard has said (in the december leagues/ladders blog) that MMR decay should at most have the same impact as losing 6 or 7 games.

But, I logged on and played a game on my SEA account after 3 or so months of inactivity. Previous league? Diamond. New placement after one match? Silver. So, its obvious the effect is more than a couple of games, and its unfair on a silver player to have to face diamond level mechanics.

Worse still, it takes a lot longer to climb out of low leagues since you constantly play diamond/masters players throughout silver and gold, which is absurd


So the ladder is still retarded right?


Yep, but Blizzard acknowledged it and is supposedly working on it. Quote from a community manager from the battle.net forum:
"We're looking into what's happening.

We'll have more information for you in a little while."

So it might still be long.
(Source: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/11354455348?page=2#38)

EDIT: If you mean "even with redistribution working", then I say we're better to wait and see. My gues is it will still be broken, but I'm trying to be optimistic anyway.

Eh great.They will fix it when LotV comes out.
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juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
January 21 2014 23:54 GMT
#38
Blizzard has a mini-hub going on for 2.1 if the OP wants to link it:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/12346797/starcraft-ii-patch-21-round-up-1-21-2014
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20319 Posts
January 22 2014 00:02 GMT
#39
On January 22 2014 08:42 CYfiri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 08:39 Cyro wrote:
On January 22 2014 08:36 CYfiri wrote:
On January 22 2014 07:49 sob3k wrote:
Can you download the remastered BW music anywhere? I'd love to have the mp3's...

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0iww4j
In mp3 format.


Thanks, downloading - is the source mp3? How'd you get the files?

Source is in .ogg format


Possible to grab?
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Pittski
Profile Joined May 2010
United States50 Posts
January 22 2014 00:06 GMT
#40
The bonus received for the “First Win of the Day” with each race has been increased from 25,000 to 100,000 experience points.


Did they overhaul the XP per level? or they just going to give away 2-4 games worth of xp everyday?
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