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saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
January 14 2014 09:50 GMT
#601
On January 14 2014 18:42 Zackeva wrote:
Oooooh, why corsairs over phoenix? I love those guys ;;

fuck annoying pew pew flies, corsairs are the boss.
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
January 14 2014 09:51 GMT
#602
On January 14 2014 18:50 saddaromma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 18:42 Zackeva wrote:
Oooooh, why corsairs over phoenix? I love those guys ;;

fuck annoying pew pew flies, corsairs are the boss.


They look silly and worthless vs mutas + can't lift stuff : S
Cogito, ergo toss.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 14 2014 10:01 GMT
#603
On January 14 2014 18:51 Zackeva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 18:50 saddaromma wrote:
On January 14 2014 18:42 Zackeva wrote:
Oooooh, why corsairs over phoenix? I love those guys ;;

fuck annoying pew pew flies, corsairs are the boss.


They look silly and worthless vs mutas + can't lift stuff : S


they can lift stuff
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
January 14 2014 10:05 GMT
#604
On January 14 2014 19:01 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 18:51 Zackeva wrote:
On January 14 2014 18:50 saddaromma wrote:
On January 14 2014 18:42 Zackeva wrote:
Oooooh, why corsairs over phoenix? I love those guys ;;

fuck annoying pew pew flies, corsairs are the boss.


They look silly and worthless vs mutas + can't lift stuff : S


they can lift stuff

In zhe latest patch they can't afaik
yo
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 14 2014 10:16 GMT
#605
I would like if the guys that created this mod can update Starbow Wiki, since there are many things there that aren't in the game, for example Zerglings having tunneling claws, and Vipers spawning Creeper units etc.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
VictorVector
Profile Joined June 2012
United States11 Posts
January 14 2014 10:19 GMT
#606
Great mod. I think you should add the wraith and keep or remove the banshee.
Talk is cheap. Bitching is expensive.
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
January 14 2014 10:25 GMT
#607
On January 14 2014 19:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I would like if the guys that created this mod can update Starbow Wiki, since there are many things there that aren't in the game, for example Zerglings having tunneling claws, and Vipers spawning Creeper units etc.


Kabel and GamaNo are working on it constantly. It is taking a nice shape now.
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
January 14 2014 10:36 GMT
#608
On January 14 2014 19:25 Xiphias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 19:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
I would like if the guys that created this mod can update Starbow Wiki, since there are many things there that aren't in the game, for example Zerglings having tunneling claws, and Vipers spawning Creeper units etc.


Kabel and GamaNo are working on it constantly. It is taking a nice shape now.

Some basic guides for each matchup would be helpful for newcomers.
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
January 14 2014 10:51 GMT
#609
What's with the HotS campaign attack cursor (the red circle)? Any reason to not just use the SC2 multiplayer one? The red circle is a bit distracting. Also, the yellow cross which is actually used to pinpoint select things (e.g., Zerglings) is not aligned in the center of the red circle which means if you use the middle of the circle to 'select' things you'll miss tiny things because its misaligned, right? That seems like a pretty big deal. Please just use the default SC2 multiplayer one <3

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anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
January 14 2014 11:02 GMT
#610
On January 14 2014 17:44 grs wrote:
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On January 14 2014 17:29 SCST wrote:
Jaedong and Major playing in a Starbow Tournament already . . . I have a feeling Dustin Browder is going to need a diaper when he realizes his game is replaced by a better mod.

I really doubt that This is new and at the same time old, chaotic, exiting and a change. This what it is now; I doubt that will be what it is in a few months.



Yeah everyone is praising starbow right now, for good reasons some would say, but many tend to forget that it also has the "new" + "sc2/bw" (to which we could add "community driven") factors creating the whole wave for the time being. But will it last ?


I like SB a lot, but I would be surprised (positively) if the trend continues in 6 months.

We can also note that SC2 is in a low period with few tournmanents but also with boredom hovering over the game for quite sometimes now.

SB is filling a void, hopefully it isn't just temporarily
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 11:32:40
January 14 2014 11:21 GMT
#611
On January 14 2014 20:02 anatase wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 17:44 grs wrote:
On January 14 2014 17:29 SCST wrote:
Jaedong and Major playing in a Starbow Tournament already . . . I have a feeling Dustin Browder is going to need a diaper when he realizes his game is replaced by a better mod.

I really doubt that This is new and at the same time old, chaotic, exiting and a change. This what it is now; I doubt that will be what it is in a few months.



Yeah everyone is praising starbow right now, for good reasons some would say, but many tend to forget that it also has the "new" + "sc2/bw" (to which we could add "community driven") factors creating the whole wave for the time being. But will it last ?


I like SB a lot, but I would be surprised (positively) if the trend continues in 6 months.

We can also note that SC2 is in a low period with few tournmanents but also with boredom hovering over the game for quite sometimes now.

SB is filling a void, hopefully it isn't just temporarily

If people actually like playing it and there is an active userbase it should at least be able to sustain itself. It obviously won't be able to maintain the current level of hype (which is already down since yesterday), but we might achieve a certain situation where there are brood war tournaments and starbow tournaments with an audience of about 5k people. I'm sure that's enough to put pressure on Blizzard, for one, and two, I think it'll also be healthy to siphon off some of the people that are most discontent with starcraft 2 into a somewhat separate scene. Maybe we can all be happy? It's contingent on the quality of the mod though.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
spiff
Profile Joined October 2007
United States22 Posts
January 14 2014 11:21 GMT
#612
On January 14 2014 18:42 Zackeva wrote:
Oooooh, why corsairs over phoenix? I love those guys ;;


I think protoss need the corsair's instant fire to defend against scourge.
Damnight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany222 Posts
January 14 2014 12:14 GMT
#613
The suggestion is probably already out there, and I didn't read 30 pages of comments, but this is how I would go about the
Ladder:

1. Make a website.
2. Make a laddersystem like Esl or iCCup.
3. Integrate a program that detects wins/losses based on replays.
4. Optional app that detects replays of starbow and uploads them automatically.

GGTracker and Sc2gears have similar systems established. If it's possible it'd be great and easy for players.
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
January 14 2014 12:18 GMT
#614
On January 14 2014 20:21 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2014 20:02 anatase wrote:
On January 14 2014 17:44 grs wrote:
On January 14 2014 17:29 SCST wrote:
Jaedong and Major playing in a Starbow Tournament already . . . I have a feeling Dustin Browder is going to need a diaper when he realizes his game is replaced by a better mod.

I really doubt that This is new and at the same time old, chaotic, exiting and a change. This what it is now; I doubt that will be what it is in a few months.



Yeah everyone is praising starbow right now, for good reasons some would say, but many tend to forget that it also has the "new" + "sc2/bw" (to which we could add "community driven") factors creating the whole wave for the time being. But will it last ?


I like SB a lot, but I would be surprised (positively) if the trend continues in 6 months.

We can also note that SC2 is in a low period with few tournmanents but also with boredom hovering over the game for quite sometimes now.

SB is filling a void, hopefully it isn't just temporarily

If people actually like playing it and there is an active userbase it should at least be able to sustain itself. It obviously won't be able to maintain the current level of hype (which is already down since yesterday), but we might achieve a certain situation where there are brood war tournaments and starbow tournaments with an audience of about 5k people. I'm sure that's enough to put pressure on Blizzard, for one, and two, I think it'll also be healthy to siphon off some of the people that are most discontent with starcraft 2 into a somewhat separate scene. Maybe we can all be happy? It's contingent on the quality of the mod though.

It will give them deja vu of the days when DotA took over warcraft 3. Then maybe they'll do something, especially with 1 more expansion still in the works.
TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1981 Posts
January 14 2014 12:18 GMT
#615
Although i doubt i will start playing it again (mainly because i hate the sc2 engine problems and the sc2 macro mechanics), i most likely will watch tournaments or streams.
Total Annihilation Zero
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
January 14 2014 12:19 GMT
#616
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FrozenProbe
Profile Joined March 2012
Italy276 Posts
January 14 2014 12:26 GMT
#617
you guys are too optimistic, the mod is great and I'm playing it a lot.. but from there to became the "new" thing... we're pretty far away.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
January 14 2014 13:02 GMT
#618
This is very interesting. I really hope one day SC2 will be replaced by a mod way more interesting like this one. I'll try some games on it.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
mau5mat
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Northern Ireland461 Posts
January 14 2014 13:43 GMT
#619
Curious to hear Hider's reasoning on keeping the banshee in place of the wraith?
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9447 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 13:53:58
January 14 2014 13:49 GMT
#620
On January 14 2014 22:43 mau5mat wrote:
Curious to hear Hider's reasoning on keeping the banshee in place of the wraith?


With Wraith you need a higher amount of them in order to deal damage. While Banshee's now 3-shots workers compared to 2-shots in Sc2, its still a lot better in smaller numbers than the Wraith.

Another thing - I also feel that Wraiths are a bit too dominant in high level BW TvT games w/ the current meta. I guess its because they shut down both dropship harass and can harass them selves. I think replacing the Valkyrie and Wraith w/ the Viking and Banshee will create a bit more interesting gameplay in TvT (once/if it gets figured out).

Note also that the Viking in Sbow is nothing like the Sc2-viking as its AA damage vs armored is much much lower. I think it makes more sense to see it as a combination of a Corsair (AA splash) and a Wraith (it can harass ground units when transformed).
It will, however, take time for players to figure out how to use the Viking properly.
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