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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
On March 10 2014 23:34 Xiphias wrote: Axiom entering the discussion: http://axiomesports.com/articles/news/axiom-esports/69/Starbow-Axiom-Players-Opinions Really good opinions. And happy they dont care about Starbow being easier do play then BW. I hope staff take notes  | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On March 11 2014 01:24 FT.aCt)Sony wrote: In Brood War, you had around 50 maps on ICCup and only specific maps were Map of the week/Map of the season that gave additional points, so having 13 maps isnt that big of a pool. Having 3-4 vetoes isnt that much either since in BW you could just opt out of playing any map you didnt want which in theory you could really veto 49 maps. Yeah sure, i like that there are many different maps, but i don't like the part where you kinda need to know "every" map to be able to ladder. I think instead of vetoing maps you should pick 5-7 maps you want to play. The only problem i see is that the community isn't really big enough to support such a map picking style (search time...) But as i said, maybe i am in the minority and people don't really care, then i have to deal with it :D (kinda like the smartcast stuff^^) | ||
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404AlphaSquad
839 Posts
On March 11 2014 01:41 Kaos_StarCraft wrote: Some random highlight thoughts from the Starbow chat. + Show Spoiler + Putting sc2 down isn't liked that much around these parts so I've double spoilered: + Show Spoiler + [01:53:33] Kaos: really need the KR stuff up for Starbow imo [01:54:24] Kaos: f2p is such a massive draw and untimately i believe Starbow is a far superior game to sc2 so you would assume the KR region upon finding this out would start slowly shifting over [01:55:21] Kaos: i dont give a shit about blizzard or the wcs its a terrible system and it killed the scene, especially in KR [01:56:30] Kaos: i mean i cant even bring myself to watch sc2 anymore not even to support my favourite players because the game is so morbidly simple [01:57:13] Kaos: the basic mechanics that blizzard decided in their infinite wisdow to remove killed the game, full stop [01:57:47] Kaos: there is no fixing that shit everybody whos got their fingers crossed for LotV is going to be sorely disappointed [02:02:07] Kaos: i really feel like sc2 is the LoL of RTS [02:02:40] Kaos: fundamental gameplay mechanics were removed yet everybody ate it up likes its the greatest thing ever [02:03:46] Kaos: its taken a long time for everybody to slowly realise how truly broken and substandard sc2 is, it pains me watching shows like Meta where these pros rack their brains trying to figure out how to fix the game [02:03:55] Kaos: i dont know whether to laugh or cry [02:05:04] Kaos: no high-ground mechanic actually breaks my brain, you could almost equate it to the removal of denies in LoL [02:12:59] Kaos: The Starbow dev team has done the right thing and it's so funny they started over 2 years ago. Instead of picking out all the reasons why sc2 isn't as good as it could be and endlessly posting the ideas hoping that something would change, they decided to do it themselves. Because they knew all these step-down things we see in the 1 dimensional gameplay that exists in sc2 are caused by the removal of core mechanics + core unit designs. [02:14:32] Kaos: It's glaringly obvious regardless of whether or not the same staffers still reside at blizzard that THEY THEMSELVES HAVE LITERALLY NO CLUE what made BroodWar great despite having the resources to learn right at their fingertips ala the KR scene. [02:22:39] Kaos: i just remember one of the very first things Dustin Browder said was something along the lines of: "This isnt SC:BW, if you want that you can go play it." In other words; "We didn't look at what made BroodWar fucking amazing, INSTEAD we're doing a completely new game with the Starcraft name." Anyways I love Starbow and I hope the scene continues to grow :D I like Kaos ^^. and he is absolutely right, I have given up on sc2 because Blizzard isnt even admitting their mistakes they have done in the last years of developping an RTS. I partly blame the community for not having the balls to criticize bad design and instead just accepting a mediocre RTS and making it out to be the best out there. The only reason why it was so successfull in the beginning is because it has the name "StarCraft". apart from that both games have nothing in common and are the complete opposite to one another. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On March 11 2014 02:16 404AlphaSquad wrote: I like Kaos ^^. and he is absolutely right, I have given up on sc2 because Blizzard isnt even admitting their mistakes they have done in the last years of developping an RTS. I partly blame the community for not having the balls to criticize bad design and instead just accepting a mediocre RTS. I 2nd this :D | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
Maybe if IEM Katowice Grand final did the same.... | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On March 11 2014 02:24 bearhug wrote: For Starbow to grow quickly, it would be good if big tournaments like IEM/MLG/GSL/SPL could start adopting the game. Maybe if they could have Starbow show matches to begin with. but what do they have to gain from doing that? You get the viewers and then events pick you up, not the other way around :/ | ||
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Lopata
Czech Republic42 Posts
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On March 11 2014 02:42 nkr wrote: but what do they have to gain from doing that? You get the viewers and then events pick you up, not the other way around :/ You are right. They only do it if it can attract more viewers. I do believe that a high level Starbow match with good BW players (like Innovation/Flash/Soulkey/Bisu) would be something fresh and new to viewers. | ||
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bearhug
United States999 Posts
On March 11 2014 02:56 bearhug wrote: You are right. They only do it if it can attract more viewers. I do believe that a high level Starbow match with good BW players (like Innovation/Flash/Soulkey/Bisu) would be something fresh and new to viewers. | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/sc2_starbow | ||
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FT.aCt)Sony
United States1049 Posts
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rebuffering
Canada2436 Posts
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
On March 11 2014 07:12 rebuffering wrote: Lol ^^, im also streaming now haha, Terran, 4900 pts, took a few days off, back for some ladderin' http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg So is this guy: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Destiny | ||
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Veritas
United Kingdom106 Posts
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Balosaar
United States35 Posts
http://www.reddit.com/r/Starbow/comments/1zdltb/i_think_there_is_something_wrong_with_banelings/ This may only apply to the starbow unit tester, but I just want the right people to be notified, and to see if anything came about it. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On March 11 2014 08:15 Balosaar wrote: A little over a week ago, I made a reddit post concerning banelings and the amount of damage that they do. I don't think there was ever a response. http://www.reddit.com/r/Starbow/comments/1zdltb/i_think_there_is_something_wrong_with_banelings/ This may only apply to the starbow unit tester, but I just want the right people to be notified, and to see if anything came about it. There was a fix in AoE damage banelings did. | ||
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gypsy___
United States7 Posts
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WarpTV
205 Posts
On March 10 2014 23:47 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: The observations that Lurkers are a tad weak seems to be common at higher level play. I think it has something to do with the attack animation. Maybe we need to make the AOE a bit wider, or make the animation faster, to allow Lurkers to hit more stuff. It certainly isn't the raw damage that is lacking. Maybe do something like this: Lurker attack +50% width, +10% animation speed, +0.2 second attack cooldown. I feel the same, the AI pathing works against line splash damage. | ||
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Xiphias
Norway2223 Posts
 ). Maybe not directly on top of each other but make their "footprint" smaller while burrowed. | ||
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