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tribulator
Profile Joined February 2011
774 Posts
January 13 2014 07:45 GMT
#321
Played a few games of this today... and I'm in love. It's really really fun trying out some of the old builds I used to use (3 hatch lurker aww yeah). I hope it gets a ladder system for sure.
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
January 13 2014 08:07 GMT
#322
I do prefer hellions over vultures (because lining them up-micro), medivacs over medics (because scarier drops) and anything else over reavers (because silly unit), but disregarding these nostalgia novelties, this is a great mod. Really hope to see TB cast more of it. : D
Cogito, ergo toss.
NoMicroWin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States688 Posts
January 13 2014 08:13 GMT
#323
made a robo in a match expecting to be able to counter roaches with immortals... no immortals...

Anyway, definitely not sc2 enough for me. I wish you luck, however!
If she pulls out her stalkers, you pull out your mauraders and concussive all over her tits
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
January 13 2014 08:19 GMT
#324
On January 13 2014 17:13 NoMicroWin wrote:
made a robo in a match expecting to be able to counter roaches with immortals... no immortals...

Anyway, definitely not sc2 enough for me. I wish you luck, however!


Sorry, I could not help but read that, read your name, then chuckle. >_<;
T P Z sagi
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
January 13 2014 08:20 GMT
#325
On January 13 2014 17:07 Zackeva wrote:
I do prefer hellions over vultures (because lining them up-micro), medivacs over medics (because scarier drops) and anything else over reavers (because silly unit), but disregarding these nostalgia novelties, this is a great mod. Really hope to see TB cast more of it. : D

Hahaha you are probably the only person on thia forum who holds that belief.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
ArTiFaKs
Profile Joined September 2013
United States1229 Posts
January 13 2014 08:30 GMT
#326
This looks fun, but with no ladder system/ranking system it won't get much attention I don't think. Unless tournaments and all that start popping up.
There are things known, and things unknown, and in-between are the doors.
corpsepose
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1678 Posts
January 13 2014 08:49 GMT
#327
it is fun, and theres clearly been genuine care and effort poured into it. for now im just content to uncover all the little intricacies and increased micro capabilities this mods got to offer, i don't really care if there's no ranking system. and i hope yall are too cuz i need people to play against x)
http://www.twitch.tv/corpsep0se
ClueClueClue
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1203 Posts
January 13 2014 09:02 GMT
#328
On January 13 2014 17:20 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 17:07 Zackeva wrote:
I do prefer hellions over vultures (because lining them up-micro), medivacs over medics (because scarier drops) and anything else over reavers (because silly unit), but disregarding these nostalgia novelties, this is a great mod. Really hope to see TB cast more of it. : D

Hahaha you are probably the only person on thia forum who holds that belief.


I think not, but the most passionate posters seem to disagree all right!
Cogito, ergo toss.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12541 Posts
January 13 2014 09:38 GMT
#329
On January 13 2014 18:02 Zackeva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 17:20 thezanursic wrote:
On January 13 2014 17:07 Zackeva wrote:
I do prefer hellions over vultures (because lining them up-micro), medivacs over medics (because scarier drops) and anything else over reavers (because silly unit), but disregarding these nostalgia novelties, this is a great mod. Really hope to see TB cast more of it. : D

Hahaha you are probably the only person on thia forum who holds that belief.


I think not, but the most passionate posters seem to disagree all right!

I am with you.

Vultures are great in TvP, they are more interesting for early game etc. but hellions are just much better than vultures in TvZ and the potential of BBQ roast is always exciting.

I feel terran overall is just less fun to play, less multi prone drops potential but more vulture runbys and dropping mines.
TvZ especially is just lacking the HOTS cut throat mechanics engagement and more reliance on spells from science vessel etc.
that's not the say the race is worse to play, i love the new BCs and vultures are great, banshee is awesome, TvP is great.
But TvT and TvZ?
I won't really call it better.
Maybe it's also due to speedlings are much much slower and making lings runby not as deadly as they should be.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
saddaromma
Profile Joined April 2013
1129 Posts
January 13 2014 09:40 GMT
#330
any guides for each matchup? Some general build orders and unit compos would be helpful.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
January 13 2014 09:47 GMT
#331
Does the creator of the mode have any plans for the futur ? Is he just gonna wait or is there a next step in the starbow project ?
rly ?
CutTheEnemy
Profile Joined November 2013
Canada373 Posts
January 13 2014 09:50 GMT
#332
played a few games. What I noticed:

Losing in starbow is fun, wheras winning in sc2 is still stressful and not that fun. Good mod! Finally a playerbase too.
Can we help spread the word and create pressure to get Rob Pardo to replace Browder as head of Sc2? Pardo led the team for broodwar, frozen throne, and wow/BC. We need to make this a thing before LotV development starts. Think about it.
Kabel
Profile Joined September 2009
Sweden1746 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 09:51:46
January 13 2014 09:51 GMT
#333
On January 13 2014 18:47 algue wrote:
Does the creator of the mode have any plans for the futur ? Is he just gonna wait or is there a next step in the starbow project ?


Right now a large patch with bug fixes is being worked on. The game is still in beta. The balance needs to be more explored before any further changes.
Creator of Starbow
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 10:57:15
January 13 2014 10:03 GMT
#334
On January 13 2014 18:38 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 18:02 Zackeva wrote:
On January 13 2014 17:20 thezanursic wrote:
On January 13 2014 17:07 Zackeva wrote:
I do prefer hellions over vultures (because lining them up-micro), medivacs over medics (because scarier drops) and anything else over reavers (because silly unit), but disregarding these nostalgia novelties, this is a great mod. Really hope to see TB cast more of it. : D

Hahaha you are probably the only person on thia forum who holds that belief.


I think not, but the most passionate posters seem to disagree all right!

I am with you.

Vultures are great in TvP, they are more interesting for early game etc. but hellions are just much better than vultures in TvZ and the potential of BBQ roast is always exciting.

I feel terran overall is just less fun to play, less multi prone drops potential but more vulture runbys and dropping mines.
TvZ especially is just lacking the HOTS cut throat mechanics engagement and more reliance on spells from science vessel etc.
that's not the say the race is worse to play, i love the new BCs and vultures are great, banshee is awesome, TvP is great.
But TvT and TvZ?
I won't really call it better.
Maybe it's also due to speedlings are much much slower and making lings runby not as deadly as they should be.


No doubt TvZ is incredible in HOTS at what it does, but I think it may lack some variety (diferent types of unit compositions). So I see the Sbow selling point as:

- More entertaining vs TvP, ZvP.
- More variety in TvZ.


I feel terran overall is just less fun to play, less multi prone drops potential but more vulture runbys and dropping mines.


Hmm, I in terms of multipronged harass, you don't really drop in HOTS TvZ untill the later stages of the game. In that regard, Sbow isn't really different in TvZ. TvP bio works a bit differently bio as you (probably) don't want to rush for medivacs in that mathcup. But post 13/14th minute mark dropships have the potential to be more effective than in HOTS due to weaker warptech/mothercore.

Mech mathcups are actually very dropable both vs protoss and zerg. But you need to get rid of the Muta-threat before you start dropping.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
January 13 2014 10:33 GMT
#335
I hope this mod skyrockets in popularity and Blizzard incorporate the ideas into LotV
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
January 13 2014 10:37 GMT
#336
On January 13 2014 19:33 Nekovivie wrote:
I hope this mod skyrockets in popularity and Blizzard incorporate the ideas into LotV


at least the eco system, that'd be wonderful. Anything to change sc2 eco that doesn't incentive expanding.
Zest fanboy.
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
January 13 2014 11:49 GMT
#337
Just a couple of issues I noticed:
Dark Swarm is too dim and can be pretty hard to see.
The scourge model can be quite confusing to differentiate from banelings on creep.
The creep spread mechanic is a very good element from sc2 imo, could there be other ways to encourage it? maybe a smaller speed boost?
Everyday Girl's Day~!
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
January 13 2014 12:22 GMT
#338
Imma try this one and might switch. I hope a lot of players too :D
AKMU / IU
shivver
Profile Joined June 2011
United States232 Posts
January 13 2014 12:25 GMT
#339
To the developer:

Please bring the phoenix back, corsairs are like a poor mans phoenix
ANLProbe
Profile Joined October 2013
667 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 13:03:22
January 13 2014 13:02 GMT
#340
I think it's great but why do you Spider mines shoot like WMs? They also seem to be really weak and they take a bit too long to activate.
And as someone else stated, dark swarm doesn't stand out enough and even plague is a bit too light.
Go TAEJA
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