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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
January 13 2014 14:09 GMT
#361
On January 13 2014 23:00 Xiphias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 22:54 ANLProbe wrote:
no vulture patrol micro :'(


We had it for a while, but it messed up normal target fire. Hard sacrifice to make Hopefully some genius can fix it all. I blame SC2 engine

I think a lot of people do. It's hard to play this mod -- i got used to the deathball type army style of sc2 and i never played bw so yeah. but it's really fun! i hope there is some development still!
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
January 13 2014 14:13 GMT
#362
Watched Ryung v Impact, and the addition of Defilers really makes zerg interesting in the late game. Science Vessels are just badass units as a whole, Irradiate is so good. Time will tell whether this is due to novelty factor, or flat-out higher quality than sc2. Overall I support this mod, it might actually make me click on my sc2 icon again
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 14:14:34
January 13 2014 14:14 GMT
#363
When you say SC2 Mechanics is there automine as well and smartcasting ? Or just unlimited unit selection ?

I've been always tempted by this mod but i never remember to try it when i'm home
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Kabel
Profile Joined September 2009
Sweden1746 Posts
January 13 2014 14:15 GMT
#364
On January 13 2014 23:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
When you say SC2 Mechanics is there automine as well and smartcasting ? Or just unlimited unit selection ?

I've been always tempted by this mod but i never remember to try it when i'm home


Automine
Smartcast
Unlimited selection

We are actually considering to remove smart cast. It won´t happen now all of a sudden, but maybe try it in a test map to see how players feel about it.
Creator of Starbow
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
January 13 2014 14:16 GMT
#365
I really hope that sbow grows bigger than normal sc2. The player pool is growing now therefore I am switching now completely to this mod. What really would help growing this even more would be a tournament Existor, I love your sbow banner looks great and I hope kabel/gossen implements it.
aka Kalevi
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#366
On January 13 2014 23:15 Kabel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 23:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
When you say SC2 Mechanics is there automine as well and smartcasting ? Or just unlimited unit selection ?

I've been always tempted by this mod but i never remember to try it when i'm home


Automine
Smartcast
Unlimited selection

We are actually considering to remove smart cast. It won´t happen now all of a sudden, but maybe try it in a test map to see how players feel about it.

I think it would be a good thing to do, there are speels that benefit much more from smartcast than others, which feels just meh overall i think.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
January 13 2014 14:17 GMT
#367
You would be surprised to know how many things we tried to implement that simply fell short due to engine limitations.
Actually not limitations, but rather hardcoded unit behavior that we simply could not break. Spider mines, Vultures, Mutalisks, Zealots, Reavers and a lot of other units are slightly different than the ideal version due to limitations.

I am in awe of the guys who did editor magic to at least get close to the intentions we had for those units, but ideally we would need engine fixes to get what we intended.
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
ANLProbe
Profile Joined October 2013
667 Posts
January 13 2014 14:18 GMT
#368
Could you please include all the sounds and music from BW for the BW units, like Tank sieging and shooting, Hydras "spitting" sound, Zergling quotes etc?
Go TAEJA
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 13 2014 14:18 GMT
#369
On January 13 2014 23:16 404AlphaSquad wrote:
I really hope that sbow grows bigger than normal sc2. The player pool is growing now therefore I am switching now completely to this mod. What really would help growing this even more would be a tournament Existor, I love your sbow banner looks great and I hope kabel/gossen implements it.

There is a king of the hill today for starbow, saw this on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1v3kxj/starbow_king_of_the_hill_150_prize_pool_monday/
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 14:21:33
January 13 2014 14:20 GMT
#370
One suggest I'd make is remove the Duality Charge upgrade and roll it into the Singularity Charge upgrade. I think that will make Stalkers more common. Having to get both Void Generator and Duality Charge is a large investment. If it becomes too strong for whatever reason, you could roll it back. I doubt it will be though, and hopefully we'll see more Stalkers in the meta.

On January 13 2014 23:15 Kabel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 23:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
When you say SC2 Mechanics is there automine as well and smartcasting ? Or just unlimited unit selection ?

I've been always tempted by this mod but i never remember to try it when i'm home


Automine
Smartcast
Unlimited selection

We are actually considering to remove smart cast. It won´t happen now all of a sudden, but maybe try it in a test map to see how players feel about it.

Don't forget to buff Storm in that map.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9433 Posts
January 13 2014 14:23 GMT
#371
One suggest I'd make is remove the Duality Charge upgrade and roll it into the Singularity Charge upgrade. I think that will make Stalkers more common. Having to get both Void Generator and Duality Charge is a large investment. If it becomes too strong for whatever reason, you could roll it back. I doubt it will be though, and hopefully we'll see more Stalkers in the meta.


Agree - not unreasonable expect this one to get changed soon.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark697 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 14:24:58
January 13 2014 14:24 GMT
#372
On January 13 2014 23:20 Arco wrote:
One suggest I'd make is remove the Duality Charge upgrade and roll it into the Singularity Charge upgrade.


I would second that change - no reason why there should be two different upgrades. Added bonus is that players might feel much more inclined to try using Stalkers by the fact that they already have invested in upgrading them.

EDIT: Hider beat me to it
Go try StarBow on the Arcade. TL thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440661
ANLProbe
Profile Joined October 2013
667 Posts
January 13 2014 14:26 GMT
#373
On January 13 2014 23:17 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
You would be surprised to know how many things we tried to implement that simply fell short due to engine limitations.
Actually not limitations, but rather hardcoded unit behavior that we simply could not break. Spider mines, Vultures, Mutalisks, Zealots, Reavers and a lot of other units are slightly different than the ideal version due to limitations.

I am in awe of the guys who did editor magic to at least get close to the intentions we had for those units, but ideally we would need engine fixes to get what we intended.

Have you increased the separation radius and lowered the damage point to allow near instant firing for units like vikings to allow more micro?
Go TAEJA
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 13 2014 14:37 GMT
#374
On January 13 2014 23:15 Kabel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 23:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
When you say SC2 Mechanics is there automine as well and smartcasting ? Or just unlimited unit selection ?

I've been always tempted by this mod but i never remember to try it when i'm home


Automine
Smartcast
Unlimited selection

We are actually considering to remove smart cast. It won´t happen now all of a sudden, but maybe try it in a test map to see how players feel about it.


OKay Thank you for your response. Hope i can try it oneday. Good Job in anycase. Because apparently you made a "Better BW". Didn't thought that was possible
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 14:48:47
January 13 2014 14:40 GMT
#375
On January 13 2014 23:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 23:15 Kabel wrote:
On January 13 2014 23:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
When you say SC2 Mechanics is there automine as well and smartcasting ? Or just unlimited unit selection ?

I've been always tempted by this mod but i never remember to try it when i'm home


Automine
Smartcast
Unlimited selection

We are actually considering to remove smart cast. It won´t happen now all of a sudden, but maybe try it in a test map to see how players feel about it.


OKay Thank you for your response. Hope i can try it oneday. Good Job in anycase. Because apparently you made a "Better BW". Didn't thought that was possible

It isn't a better BW, if you expect that you will most likely be disappointed, it has the BW spirit though.
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 13 2014 14:47 GMT
#376
The only grip I have so far is that Dark swarm and Plague aren't visible enough, but that's totally fixable.
Great mod.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
mTwRINE
Profile Joined February 2006
Germany318 Posts
January 13 2014 14:58 GMT
#377
Just played 2 games and it was the best thing I've played in ages. 24/7 action, alot of multitask and harassment while keeping an eye for the big armys movement. Hope more people give it a try.
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 13 2014 15:02 GMT
#378
You can't be seriously thinking about removing smartcasting, if you want this to get any big. Yes, it will appeal to oldschool BW fans but will completely alienate most of the SC2 playerbase, which is much bigger (even if it doesn't look like that when you read TL). If you don't keep the improvements to the UI that came with SC2, there won't be many reasons left to not play BW instead. Even the authors of the mod appreciate that they don't want to produce "BW in better resolution" - and that's a good idea seeing how little people care about SC2BW,
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
RenZan
Profile Joined February 2011
France35 Posts
January 13 2014 15:04 GMT
#379
On January 14 2014 00:02 opisska wrote:
You can't be seriously thinking about removing smartcasting, if you want this to get any big. Yes, it will appeal to oldschool BW fans but will completely alienate most of the SC2 playerbase, which is much bigger (even if it doesn't look like that when you read TL). If you don't keep the improvements to the UI that came with SC2, there won't be many reasons left to not play BW instead. Even the authors of the mod appreciate that they don't want to produce "BW in better resolution" - and that's a good idea seeing how little people care about SC2BW,


+1, I think smart casting is a nice feeling for the average player, just be sure no spell could destroy the game with this style of cast ^^
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
January 13 2014 15:06 GMT
#380
On January 13 2014 23:40 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2014 23:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
On January 13 2014 23:15 Kabel wrote:
On January 13 2014 23:14 FFW_Rude wrote:
When you say SC2 Mechanics is there automine as well and smartcasting ? Or just unlimited unit selection ?

I've been always tempted by this mod but i never remember to try it when i'm home


Automine
Smartcast
Unlimited selection

We are actually considering to remove smart cast. It won´t happen now all of a sudden, but maybe try it in a test map to see how players feel about it.


OKay Thank you for your response. Hope i can try it oneday. Good Job in anycase. Because apparently you made a "Better BW". Didn't thought that was possible

It isn't a better BW, if you expect that you will most likely be disappointed, it has the BW spirit though.


Oh ok. My comment was more than : if you did that then it's a hell of a job you did. It was more of a compliment that something i want as i did not play that mod (hope that makes sense)
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
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