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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
February 07 2014 16:44 GMT
#3261
On February 08 2014 01:35 GuoJing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2014 22:48 Xiphias wrote:
Innovation to play in the Starbow invitational:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1x9r41/acer_innovation_axcrank_and_others_to_join_the/

Upvote please


I am not that excited. Why ? Because most of those players mainly play SC2 HOTS and not Starbow. This tournament should invite players who did good results in ESL starbow cups (finalists, semi...), even if they are not known as progamers. I am pretty sure this will happen : Player A :"oh, didnt know it was like that", Player B "lol, me neither"

Beastyqt, TT1, Sasquatch all have decent Starbow experience. I don't know about the Koreans, but I thought that Crank practiced a fair amount, yet still lost out to Impact & Innovation in the Axiom Starbow tournament. I do agree that it would be nice to have a few more people that have not only dabbled in Starbow, but that have a lot more competitive experience with the game. I suspect Hider & Foxxan aren't on the level of Innovation in Starbow simply due to mechanics, but I think it would be nice to give people like them a chance in the invitational because they might come up with clever strategies which might lead to fun games.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
February 07 2014 16:51 GMT
#3262
I think it's extremely valuable to have absolute bleeding-edge top-tier players like Innovation in a StarBow tournament. For we who play, it's going to be great to see what players like that come up with, and for we who hope to see StarBow grow into a stable scene, having a name like Innovation in a tournament is going to draw eyes and new players.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 17:18:01
February 07 2014 17:15 GMT
#3263
On February 08 2014 01:51 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
I think it's extremely valuable to have absolute bleeding-edge top-tier players like Innovation in a StarBow tournament. For we who play, it's going to be great to see what players like that come up with, and for we who hope to see StarBow grow into a stable scene, having a name like Innovation in a tournament is going to draw eyes and new players.


Totally agree with this. For the random sc2 viewer, if they click the tourney link and see innovation or any of the other popular players, they're way more likely to stick around and watch than if they saw some unknown player. We need more viewers now which is what players like innovation will bring, and if the lesser known players playing in the ESL tournaments end up actually being better at starbow in the long run, they'll become the popular players over time. Also, I really hope we get a well known caster like Totalbiscuit to handle the invitational - not to say I'm not thankful for the lesser known casters for what they've done so far, but starbow needs more exposure that only the more popular casters can bring IMO.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
February 07 2014 17:24 GMT
#3264
On February 08 2014 01:44 Grumbels wrote:I don't know about the Koreans, but I thought that Crank practiced a fair amount, yet still lost out to Impact & Innovation in the Axiom Starbow tournament. I do agree that it would be nice to have a few more people that have not only dabbled in Starbow, but that have a lot more competitive experience with the game. I suspect Hider & Foxxan aren't on the level of Innovation in Starbow simply due to mechanics, but I think it would be nice to give people like them a chance in the invitational because they might come up with clever strategies which might lead to fun games.

I'm using one of Impact's ZvT builds which he used in Axiom tournament and I can confirm that it's actually well thought-through and rapes terrans. and he still lost to inno decisively
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33723 Posts
February 07 2014 17:34 GMT
#3265
New spider mines look sweet
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-07 17:54:18
February 07 2014 17:53 GMT
#3266
On February 08 2014 02:34 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
New spider mines look sweet


Cost me a PvT because i wasn't use to watching out for them since they died so quickly. But I do much like how I actually can use them to mine drag now.

Still wish you could do full BW style where even after it "launches" you could still shoot it to disarm it as opposed to you have like 5 seconds to shoot it and then its perm attacking your unit.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
February 07 2014 18:02 GMT
#3267
On February 08 2014 02:34 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
New spider mines look sweet

Agreed. Great job Starbow team!
Xiphias
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway2223 Posts
February 07 2014 18:43 GMT
#3268
Streaming the ESL tourney:

www.twitch.tv/SC2_Starbow
aka KanBan85. Working on Starbow.
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
February 07 2014 18:44 GMT
#3269
On February 07 2014 22:58 bearhug wrote:
I hope the design of Starbow follow some universal rules, such as centered on economy, strong ground-to-air attack & weak air-to-ground damage (except the ultimate units: carrier, bc), high ground advantages, little to zero map/terrain changing ability(ie, no force field like ability).

Dallan Christensen, the leading designer of SCBW, once said that those simple rules are what made SC BW a great and stable game. The game is like a ecosystem or a society, in which the physical rules/ human laws are critical for the sustainability & stability of the whole system. Just like a country built based on laws/constitutions is more sustainable than a dictatorships regime where decisions are usually made randomly depending on the ruler's desire.

Keep the good work going!


Thats interesting.
Where did u read that?

BTW: Have you looked at the banshee?
Strong air-to-ground but with no AA. Thought?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
February 07 2014 19:16 GMT
#3270
New spidermines, YES THEY SCUTTLE. Omg so cool
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1847 Posts
February 07 2014 21:26 GMT
#3271
I'm at work so I couldn't watch, but I saw the BaseTradeTV stream had 1500 viewers for the Starbow tourney today? :O That's awesome!
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
February 07 2014 21:30 GMT
#3272
On February 08 2014 06:26 GoShox wrote:
I'm at work so I couldn't watch, but I saw the BaseTradeTV stream had 1500 viewers for the Starbow tourney today? :O That's awesome!


Yes the tourney did have ~1500 viewers without anyone well known playing and no prize pool . . . obviously people are enjoying watching it.

Hopefully a big tournament will happen soon (larger prize pool).
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
February 07 2014 21:49 GMT
#3273
Is there a video where I can see the new Spider Mines?
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
February 07 2014 21:51 GMT
#3274
On February 08 2014 06:49 StarscreamG1 wrote:
Is there a video where I can see the new Spider Mines?


There's a post a page back, here ya go:

On February 07 2014 15:27 nukkuj wrote:

This one looks pretty good!

GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
February 07 2014 22:25 GMT
#3275
On February 08 2014 02:34 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
New spider mines look sweet


Jinro would you ever consider streaming some Starbow?

Miss watching your stream
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
February 07 2014 22:38 GMT
#3276
Seconded, Jinro back even for one day would be a thing of beauty
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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NapkinBox
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States314 Posts
February 07 2014 22:48 GMT
#3277
On February 08 2014 01:44 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 01:35 GuoJing wrote:
On February 07 2014 22:48 Xiphias wrote:
Innovation to play in the Starbow invitational:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1x9r41/acer_innovation_axcrank_and_others_to_join_the/

Upvote please


I am not that excited. Why ? Because most of those players mainly play SC2 HOTS and not Starbow. This tournament should invite players who did good results in ESL starbow cups (finalists, semi...), even if they are not known as progamers. I am pretty sure this will happen : Player A :"oh, didnt know it was like that", Player B "lol, me neither"

Beastyqt, TT1, Sasquatch all have decent Starbow experience. I don't know about the Koreans, but I thought that Crank practiced a fair amount, yet still lost out to Impact & Innovation in the Axiom Starbow tournament. I do agree that it would be nice to have a few more people that have not only dabbled in Starbow, but that have a lot more competitive experience with the game. I suspect Hider & Foxxan aren't on the level of Innovation in Starbow simply due to mechanics, but I think it would be nice to give people like them a chance in the invitational because they might come up with clever strategies which might lead to fun games.


Crank was in it? I thought he was only a caster :S
"Who has the best durability feat in all of comic book superheroes?" "Aquaman surviving pop culture."
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
February 08 2014 00:42 GMT
#3278
On February 08 2014 07:48 NapkinBox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 01:44 Grumbels wrote:
On February 08 2014 01:35 GuoJing wrote:
On February 07 2014 22:48 Xiphias wrote:
Innovation to play in the Starbow invitational:

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1x9r41/acer_innovation_axcrank_and_others_to_join_the/

Upvote please


I am not that excited. Why ? Because most of those players mainly play SC2 HOTS and not Starbow. This tournament should invite players who did good results in ESL starbow cups (finalists, semi...), even if they are not known as progamers. I am pretty sure this will happen : Player A :"oh, didnt know it was like that", Player B "lol, me neither"

Beastyqt, TT1, Sasquatch all have decent Starbow experience. I don't know about the Koreans, but I thought that Crank practiced a fair amount, yet still lost out to Impact & Innovation in the Axiom Starbow tournament. I do agree that it would be nice to have a few more people that have not only dabbled in Starbow, but that have a lot more competitive experience with the game. I suspect Hider & Foxxan aren't on the level of Innovation in Starbow simply due to mechanics, but I think it would be nice to give people like them a chance in the invitational because they might come up with clever strategies which might lead to fun games.


Crank was in it? I thought he was only a caster :S

You're right, I was thinking of some other starbow event where crank lost, sorry.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1847 Posts
February 08 2014 01:36 GMT
#3279
Gonna stream some.

http://www.twitch.tv/smishox
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10096 Posts
February 08 2014 02:01 GMT
#3280
is the ladder up yet? im waiting for it to come out before i restart playing o-o
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