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AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
January 28 2014 08:54 GMT
#2901
On January 28 2014 06:34 Season wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 06:23 Xiphias wrote:
On January 28 2014 04:09 StarscreamG1 wrote:
On January 28 2014 03:30 Xiphias wrote:
To answer some common questions:

a) Is there a ladder? We are working on it.

b) More sub-threads on teamliquid? We are working on a community site and plan to have a Starbow-only forum there. (We'll still be on tl.net as well but that should satisfy our forum needs )

c) Starbow micro arena? We do not have time / resources to do this, but if you do, let me know! Starbow is a community project. If you want something we do not have, then offer to help! But we'd like you to contact us first so we don't have overlapping work.

What about a TL stream menu for Starbow? If possible would be gold


I've asked the mod's, has not happened yet


The thing is.. Are enough people streaming StarBow at the moment? Maybe we should give it more time to catch on before we ask them to add a new section to the site. That way the request will have more merit.

A suggestion for whoever is in touch with the mods on this issue - maybe a good solution could be found by not trying to privilege Starbow over other SC2 mods. How about adding a generic "mod/UMS" field to the streaming page template that streamers could fill in as they pleased? We SB fans would have what we want in the ability to search for Starbow, and any other mod with a following would get the same benefit.

I think it's completely reasonable for TL to assume that SB has peaked and will die off again, even if we all hope that's not the case. But a generic solution for finding streams of SC2 mods would solve our problem without requiring any extra effort on TL's part when the next big mod comes along.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
January 28 2014 09:57 GMT
#2902
I think that we need to at least maintain awareness of starbow for the general starcraft community. This will ensure that whenever totalbiscuit next tells people that they should play starbow that they will know what to do (the "people are sheep" theory). Related to this is that there should be resources for new players to make starting with starbow more accessible, such as guides, ladders, launchers.

A ladder would also go a long way towards maintaining interest for the current batch of players.

I think it's a bit silly to just say that there should be tournaments and pro players streaming the game, because it's not yet in tgeir interest to do so. No pro worth his salt will play starbow over sc2 when he's qualified for wcs.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 28 2014 10:05 GMT
#2903
On January 28 2014 17:54 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 06:34 Season wrote:
On January 28 2014 06:23 Xiphias wrote:
On January 28 2014 04:09 StarscreamG1 wrote:
On January 28 2014 03:30 Xiphias wrote:
To answer some common questions:

a) Is there a ladder? We are working on it.

b) More sub-threads on teamliquid? We are working on a community site and plan to have a Starbow-only forum there. (We'll still be on tl.net as well but that should satisfy our forum needs )

c) Starbow micro arena? We do not have time / resources to do this, but if you do, let me know! Starbow is a community project. If you want something we do not have, then offer to help! But we'd like you to contact us first so we don't have overlapping work.

What about a TL stream menu for Starbow? If possible would be gold


I've asked the mod's, has not happened yet


The thing is.. Are enough people streaming StarBow at the moment? Maybe we should give it more time to catch on before we ask them to add a new section to the site. That way the request will have more merit.

A suggestion for whoever is in touch with the mods on this issue - maybe a good solution could be found by not trying to privilege Starbow over other SC2 mods. How about adding a generic "mod/UMS" field to the streaming page template that streamers could fill in as they pleased? We SB fans would have what we want in the ability to search for Starbow, and any other mod with a following would get the same benefit.

I think it's completely reasonable for TL to assume that SB has peaked and will die off again, even if we all hope that's not the case. But a generic solution for finding streams of SC2 mods would solve our problem without requiring any extra effort on TL's part when the next big mod comes along.


To be frank, I don't think it is good for TL to impose on their streamers to differentiate between Arcade and Ladder, what if you want to do a quick arcade game with your viewers during a long ladder session? Or you play a quick custom game?
It's just tedious with nothing much to gain, imo.
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 12:26:58
January 28 2014 12:26 GMT
#2904
Chat channel seems to be dead atm. :/
as useful as teasalt
Lt Kilgore
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden11 Posts
January 28 2014 12:45 GMT
#2905
On January 28 2014 21:26 Ryndika wrote:
Chat channel seems to be dead atm. :/


That's strange, 21:26 it's usually prime time. Are you sure you are not in a new channel? (if the first one is full a second one is autocreated)
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
January 28 2014 13:40 GMT
#2906
On January 28 2014 21:45 Lt Kilgore wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 21:26 Ryndika wrote:
Chat channel seems to be dead atm. :/


That's strange, 21:26 it's usually prime time. Are you sure you are not in a new channel? (if the first one is full a second one is autocreated)

That's a weird error you made, but it's korean time, not european time. The starbow channel wasn't active when I checked yesterday morning for instance. Best bet is for after 6pm I guess.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
how
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States538 Posts
January 28 2014 14:22 GMT
#2907
I can't wait for a ladder system for this, is there an eta on that?
http://twitter.com/howsc
Morbidius
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil3449 Posts
January 28 2014 14:58 GMT
#2908
I don't think Starbow can grow much from here unless some big event makes everyone look at it again, we should all focus on retaining our player base, which is, sadly, undubitably dwindling each day
Has foreign StarCraft hit rock bottom?
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 28 2014 16:04 GMT
#2909
I think retaining the player base and growing over the long term is definitely possible but getting that website going is a big part of that. We're all looking forward to seeing it go live.

ETA for ladder is sometime in February as far as I know
:O
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
January 28 2014 16:21 GMT
#2910
Ladder would be more important that website imo.
maru lover forever
chobopeon
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States7342 Posts
January 28 2014 16:25 GMT
#2911
On January 29 2014 01:21 Incognoto wrote:
Ladder would be more important that website imo.


I'm thinking of them as one in the same but I agree, ladder is very important!
:O
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2597 Posts
January 28 2014 17:21 GMT
#2912
On January 28 2014 19:05 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 17:54 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On January 28 2014 06:34 Season wrote:
On January 28 2014 06:23 Xiphias wrote:
On January 28 2014 04:09 StarscreamG1 wrote:
On January 28 2014 03:30 Xiphias wrote:
To answer some common questions:

a) Is there a ladder? We are working on it.

b) More sub-threads on teamliquid? We are working on a community site and plan to have a Starbow-only forum there. (We'll still be on tl.net as well but that should satisfy our forum needs )

c) Starbow micro arena? We do not have time / resources to do this, but if you do, let me know! Starbow is a community project. If you want something we do not have, then offer to help! But we'd like you to contact us first so we don't have overlapping work.

What about a TL stream menu for Starbow? If possible would be gold


I've asked the mod's, has not happened yet


The thing is.. Are enough people streaming StarBow at the moment? Maybe we should give it more time to catch on before we ask them to add a new section to the site. That way the request will have more merit.

A suggestion for whoever is in touch with the mods on this issue - maybe a good solution could be found by not trying to privilege Starbow over other SC2 mods. How about adding a generic "mod/UMS" field to the streaming page template that streamers could fill in as they pleased? We SB fans would have what we want in the ability to search for Starbow, and any other mod with a following would get the same benefit.

I think it's completely reasonable for TL to assume that SB has peaked and will die off again, even if we all hope that's not the case. But a generic solution for finding streams of SC2 mods would solve our problem without requiring any extra effort on TL's part when the next big mod comes along.


To be frank, I don't think it is good for TL to impose on their streamers to differentiate between Arcade and Ladder, what if you want to do a quick arcade game with your viewers during a long ladder session? Or you play a quick custom game?
It's just tedious with nothing much to gain, imo.

I can't imagine that would be a problem, given that players play other games than what they've set their streams to all the time and there's no real issue with it. It would just give a player the ability to add a field that people could search for.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Aldaris_
Profile Joined October 2012
France5 Posts
January 28 2014 19:07 GMT
#2913
Why siege tank have a higher cooldown than broodwar ?
It should be at 3.125 or something like that , actually , it's 4.53
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
January 28 2014 19:33 GMT
#2914
I don't think mainstream casters (besides TB) or tournaments are taking advantage of the potential for this mod, especially from a viewership perspective . . . I have a hunch that thing is a golden egg that's being somewhat overlooked
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
January 28 2014 19:34 GMT
#2915
granted i've only played a few TvZs, standart BW marine tank vessels doesnt feel as strong as in BW. vessels doing 120 dmg feel very weak, not killing a single lurker and once ultralisks are out you cant even take one third of their HP pool down (you would do over 50% dmg in BW). not saying anything is imbalanced obviously, but that particular strategy, that centered around vessels taking half of enemy HP and units out before the battle even started doesnt seem to work in starbow.i must say, i dont really see a point in getting vessels in tvz at all really, maybe just a few to irradiate zerg casters/mutas. nerv jammer is obviously not an answer to onrushing zerg with melee units. think either marine mech, pure mech obviously too, and marine INTO mech (like at the end of BW) should work better

or maybe im just doing something wrong
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
January 28 2014 19:41 GMT
#2916
On January 29 2014 04:34 PredY wrote:
granted i've only played a few TvZs, standart BW marine tank vessels doesnt feel as strong as in BW. vessels doing 120 dmg feel very weak, not killing a single lurker and once ultralisks are out you cant even take one third of their HP pool down (you would do over 50% dmg in BW). not saying anything is imbalanced obviously, but that particular strategy, that centered around vessels taking half of enemy HP and units out before the battle even started doesnt seem to work in starbow.i must say, i dont really see a point in getting vessels in tvz at all really, maybe just a few to irradiate zerg casters/mutas. nerv jammer is obviously not an answer to onrushing zerg with melee units. think either marine mech, pure mech obviously too, and marine INTO mech (like at the end of BW) should work better

or maybe im just doing something wrong


at least lately ive been seeing a lot more transitions to late-game mech/vessels and move away from mmf/vessels. Last few bw vods I saw showed this, I think that style wasn't as strong as the meta game developed even in BW. Don't get me wrong, it was very strong at first when you could out micro your opponent easily, but now that peoples micro is roughly the same level you have to add tanks/spider mines since they both work under dark swarm(mines do damage+splash while tanks do splash).
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
Survivor61316
Profile Joined July 2012
United States470 Posts
January 28 2014 20:05 GMT
#2917
Does the ghost shock ability stop banelings from detonating?
Liquid Fighting
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
January 28 2014 20:18 GMT
#2918
On January 29 2014 05:05 Survivor61316 wrote:
Does the ghost shock ability stop banelings from detonating?

I doubt it, and I think that ability is bugged and that it doesn't work on Lurkers or that was what I've seen on the stream. Lurkers are affected with the ability, but they shoot like nothing happened.

Someone should check this.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 21:12:22
January 28 2014 21:10 GMT
#2919
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
January 28 2014 21:15 GMT
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