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Meerel
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany713 Posts
January 23 2014 20:46 GMT
#2361
On January 24 2014 05:35 dani` wrote:
I don't know what the Pylon radius was like in BW, but it would be nice to restore the early WoL Pylon radius (bigger than currently). It was reduced at some point mainly to balance offensive highground warpins but that's a non-issue in SB. Even in SC2 where you cannot warp in to high ground anymore they should actually restore it to the previous bigger radius.

The current radius is just a bit small, can be inconvenient with wallins and also now with Gateways as opposed to Warp Gates which could be built wherever and stacked on top of each other we need more buildable space in our base too.


i brought this up aswell before, do it kabel
SDMF
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
January 23 2014 20:47 GMT
#2362
On January 24 2014 04:00 HaRuHi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 01:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
Dragoon model is ok IMO, aesthetics wise my main gripes tend to be with Protoss attack animations. Also Dragoons should explode into a mess of blue goo

The gameplay is pretty damn good atm though, not perfect but very solid and fun atm


I don't even wanna know how long the list of things to check, bugfix, improve is for the devs atm, but maybe we can have a poll which units need aesthetic fixing the most:

Poll: Eesthetically most unpleasent Starbow unit?

Defiler (26)
 
39%

Dragoon (22)
 
33%

Sentinel (9)
 
14%

Marauder (4)
 
6%

Guardian (3)
 
5%

Firebat (1)
 
2%

Goliath (1)
 
2%

66 total votes

Your vote: Eesthetically most unpleasent Starbow unit?

(Vote): Dragoon
(Vote): Sentinel
(Vote): Marauder
(Vote): Firebat
(Vote): Goliath
(Vote): Guardian
(Vote): Defiler




I need more votes :D
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 20:53:02
January 23 2014 20:52 GMT
#2363
--- Nuked ---
404AlphaSquad
Profile Joined October 2011
839 Posts
January 23 2014 20:56 GMT
#2364
yep, after seeing those terrible patch ideas for HOTS, I like starbow even more.
aka Kalevi
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
January 23 2014 21:04 GMT
#2365
I must be the only one on earth who thinks Defiler's are fine and Corsairs/Sentinels could use some help aesthetically. 0.o
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
January 23 2014 21:05 GMT
#2366
I would say the lurker for sure. Ever since blizzard showed off the model in wol alpha, it looked hideous.
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
Aikin
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria532 Posts
January 23 2014 21:08 GMT
#2367
OHHh MMMM GGG this mod is awesome.

Played my first real game tvp on fighting spirit and had a blast. Putting mines all over the map. Doing runbys with vultures. Leepfroging with tanks. But not cardbox tanks. Tanks that actually kill protoss shit tanks!!

The sc2 and original parts that were added seem really cool and I love the brood war dmg system +high ground advantage.

I really have to thank you for putting so much effort into this. It feels awesome and seems to have a lot of potential so I hope more people pick it up and it doesn´t fall off the radar. I haven´t had so much fun playing an rts since the sc2 beta and that was because everything was new and shiny. T(h)anks!!!!
[A]dmiral Bulldog | Naniwa | [A]lliance
Jagoti
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany24 Posts
January 23 2014 21:11 GMT
#2368
Idra currently streaming Starbow!
http://www.twitch.tv/idrajit
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9425 Posts
January 23 2014 21:23 GMT
#2369
On January 24 2014 06:04 SCST wrote:
I must be the only one on earth who thinks Defiler's are fine and Corsairs/Sentinels could use some help aesthetically. 0.o


I vote for the Dragoon. When we first considered implementing it, I was like: Eh guys, that shit looks awfull. Can we consider just giving it the Immortal model and naming it a Dragoon (?)

But as time went on, I kinda got used to it I guess.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9425 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 21:25:36
January 23 2014 21:25 GMT
#2370
On January 24 2014 05:25 TT1 wrote:
i like the sentinel because its small and microable, i hate the bigger units because they cause micro issues (defilers, goons etc.)


Im curious: What's your thoughts on making the Defiler more microable? We are considering nerfing the AOE of Dark Swarm (other adjustments will be made along this to maintain a decent level of balance). Would a small increase in movement speed as a compensation make it more fun? Fast burrow-movmenet (similar to Roach or is that too uncreative?).
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
January 23 2014 21:26 GMT
#2371
This really does seem to be building momentum. The first time I saw this, I assumed it would go no where, with there only ever being a small community enjoying it. My skepticism has been changed into intrigue. I think there is a good chance this will still die down, but it seems to have a chance...
On the internet if you disagree with or dislike something you're angry and taking it too seriously. == Join TLMafia !
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
January 23 2014 21:27 GMT
#2372
Defiler definitelly looks too much like a lobster. Also dragoon could benefit from a small aesthetic upgrade, I like sentinel though, very unique design imo.
sorry for dem one liners
Pirfiktshon
Profile Joined June 2013
United States1072 Posts
January 23 2014 21:49 GMT
#2373
Only thing is Defiler is a bit clunky imo and while i'ma Terran player I think the Defiler needs like a +1 Range buff lol
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
January 23 2014 21:50 GMT
#2374
dark swarm is fine ....
JANGBI never forget
Season
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 22:04:53
January 23 2014 22:02 GMT
#2375
I just tested some Dark Swarm stuff and was not sure if some of this was intended or not..

As of now opponent units under swarm DO take damage from ranged attacks.

Defilers can consume Changelings for energy.

Also, I know AOE damage is halved, but are Reaver/Spider Mine shots initially qualified as such? (As in the target they hit, not the resulting surrounding AOE damage). Example: One Zergling will not die to a Spider Mine shot.

Again if this is how it is supposed to be just disregard. Thanks!
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-23 22:16:42
January 23 2014 22:16 GMT
#2376
TT1: "I like this PvZ much better than SC2"

Idra: "Well no shit"
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
January 23 2014 22:17 GMT
#2377
On January 24 2014 06:26 Zealos wrote:
This really does seem to be building momentum. The first time I saw this, I assumed it would go no where, with there only ever being a small community enjoying it. My skepticism has been changed into intrigue. I think there is a good chance this will still die down, but it seems to have a chance...


Does it really matter...you shouldn't evaluate a game based on it's "eSportiness..." It's pretty damn fun, and that's what counts. Having a lot of fun making my BW builds work.
"Think of the hysteria following the realization that they consciously consume babies and raise the dead people from their graves" - N0
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
January 23 2014 22:18 GMT
#2378
On January 24 2014 07:17 Qwyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 06:26 Zealos wrote:
This really does seem to be building momentum. The first time I saw this, I assumed it would go no where, with there only ever being a small community enjoying it. My skepticism has been changed into intrigue. I think there is a good chance this will still die down, but it seems to have a chance...


Does it really matter...you shouldn't evaluate a game based on it's "eSportiness..." It's pretty damn fun, and that's what counts. Having a lot of fun making my BW builds work.


I'm more excited to see new builds that surprise all of the BW players on Starbow. Still haven't seen much use of Roach with speed burrow, ghosts, vipers etc
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
StutteR
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1903 Posts
January 23 2014 22:21 GMT
#2379
Goons aren't fat enough. They should be plumpy things kind of like Immortals.
`~` | effOrt Movie sKyHigh forever & SEn
LuckyGnomTV
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Russian Federation367 Posts
January 23 2014 22:25 GMT
#2380
Cmon, leave dragoons, rivers and defilers alone. Yes, maybe their animation maybe a little bit off, but if we would speak balance things - they are OK. The only one real imba in this game right now is sentinel..
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