On January 04 2014 08:30 avilo wrote:
There's something/someone you seem to have left out of your article, the innovator of the raven style that's been using it since MLG DC 2010. But anyone reading already knows

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"mechin it happen" - Avilo

Kalfos

Dominican Republic34 Posts

January 04 2014 01:17 GMT

#22

I think we can all agree Late Game Mech + Raven composition was popularized and used by Avilo for a long time even before winfestors came up.

Challengerr

Canada20 Posts

January 04 2014 01:17 GMT

#23

On January 04 2014 09:16 avilo wrote:

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You named the thread "Modern Mechanic" maybe rename to "HTOmario interview" would be a good idea if it's not to discuss "Modern Mechanic"

a bit misleading because the opening mentions many mech players, except the one that popularized the raven style mentioned a lot in the thread

Whats your problem? He said it was a multi post article. He said multiple times that he would get in contact with you.

You're so arrogant and self centered dude. For a 26 year old that lives at home with his parents you need to bring yourself down a notch. You arent the first person ever to do mech. You arent the first person to use a lot of ravens.

Did you even bother reading the OP's responses or even the article?

ROOTFayth

Canada3351 Posts

January 04 2014 01:18 GMT

#24

woah avilo desperately looking for some recognition

and to be fair avilo you do act like you invented mech, but without copying people on SC1 you wouldn't have a clue what a mech style would look like, you didn't invent anything, you just played a fuckton with mech units because you won't let go of brood war nostalgia

Challengerr

Canada20 Posts

January 04 2014 01:26 GMT

#25

On January 04 2014 10:17 Kalfos wrote:
I think we can all agree Late Game Mech + Raven composition was popularized and used by Avilo for a long time even before winfestors came up.

"Popularized" I dont think you know what that word means. Popularized = made it popular. I dont see ANYBODY play Avilo's style, first of all, secondly, building Ravens doesnt make you an innovator. Ravens are the WoL infestor of heart of the swarm. Realistically, you cannot beat mass ravens.

Waise

3165 Posts

January 04 2014 01:35 GMT

#26

he's getting exactly what he wants, he made the entire thread about himself and we're all still talking about him. insulting him doesn't do anything for the OP, who posted a perfectly good thread and committed no crime other than not genuflecting at the altar of avilo. the only way to deal with people who have an attention problem like his is to completely ignore his chatter when it's inappropriate. otherwise he has no motive to stop.

thanks for the article, OP. please don't let divas with overinflated egos discourage you from publishing more content in the future.

Jer99

Canada8159 Posts

January 04 2014 01:56 GMT

#27

I think Yoshi Kirishima deserves recognition for his undying loyalty to mech, the man works wonders with it

blade55555

United States17423 Posts

January 04 2014 02:07 GMT

#28

On January 04 2014 10:17 Kalfos wrote:
I think we can all agree Late Game Mech + Raven composition was popularized and used by Avilo for a long time even before winfestors came up.

Uh no, it was used in wol well before avilo even got remotely popular on streams. Contrary to Avilo and some of his fans he was not the inventor of it.

neptunusfisk

2286 Posts

January 04 2014 02:09 GMT

#29

Dt/sair was something not seen before that actually worked against the best

Mech in Star 2 is basically trying to play like Star 1, in a way that does not really yield the results it would need to garner a comparision with bisu (blessed be his name)

Zeweig

Sweden189 Posts

January 04 2014 02:13 GMT

#30

On January 04 2014 10:56 Jer99 wrote:
I think Yoshi Kirishima deserves recognition for his undying loyalty to mech, the man works wonders with it

I will do some research on him as I haven't encountered him myself. Thanks for the feedback and helping making part 2 even better!

HomeWorld

Romania903 Posts

January 04 2014 02:14 GMT

#31

On January 04 2014 10:26 Challengerr wrote:

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Trying to make raven (and mech) work with a very good degree of success while everyone else is still stuck in bio play ... that is innovation (at least in TvZ/TvT).
Just because you don't see it in tournaments it doesn't mean no one knows about it.

PS: are we talking about HotS? right?

Lyyna

France776 Posts

January 04 2014 02:24 GMT

#32

On January 04 2014 10:56 Jer99 wrote:
I think Yoshi Kirishima deserves recognition for his undying loyalty to mech, the man works wonders with it

Did he made some big mech content ? I used to really enjoy sharing with him about my mech guide, but i lost track of a lot of people when taking my breaks from the game / TL.

edit : also, do i have the right to act angry about the article not giving me any credit about my mech innovations in WoL ? plz plz plz plz *.*
(and obviously, this is irony. I prefer to add it, since some people forget to spot it)

vult

United States9400 Posts

January 04 2014 02:51 GMT

#33

Before even reading the comments I knew this would be an Avilo vs. the world whinefest...

Besides that, good write up! Glad to see HTOMario gaining some more speed in the scene, he has been a huge provider of replays, strategy and write ups for a while, and this is well deserved recognition.

Rekrul

Korea (South)17174 Posts

January 04 2014 02:53 GMT

#34

i invented arbiters fwiw

Challengerr

Canada20 Posts

January 04 2014 03:16 GMT

#35

On January 04 2014 11:14 HomeWorld wrote:

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I wouldn't call building Ravens with mech an innovation. People aren't "stuck" on bio play, its just the best style to play. You have fun, its fast paced, and its all around great for every matchup.

iAmJeffReY

United States4262 Posts

January 04 2014 03:20 GMT

#36

This cracks me up. I think I love avilo more than normal after reading these posts hahaha

SoFrOsTy

United States525 Posts

January 04 2014 03:22 GMT

#37

You lost me at "HTOMario is the strongest Mech player". Thought this was serious. Also to Avilo, you literally popularized nothing. So please stop!

SoFrOsTy

United States525 Posts

January 04 2014 03:23 GMT

#38

On January 04 2014 11:07 blade55555 wrote:

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Uh no, it was used in wol well before avilo even got remotely popular on streams. Contrary to Avilo and some of his fans he was not the inventor of it.

This, this shouldn't even be a conversation. Not a single player from NA popularized any form of Mech. Everyone in all parts of Masters has been using Mech since WOL and well into HOTS.