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On January 04 2014 08:30 avilo wrote:There's something/someone you seem to have left out of your article, the innovator of the raven style that's been using it since MLG DC 2010. But anyone reading already knows ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif)
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"mechin it happen" - Avilo
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Dominican Republic34 Posts
I think we can all agree Late Game Mech + Raven composition was popularized and used by Avilo for a long time even before winfestors came up.
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On January 04 2014 09:16 avilo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 08:59 PoisonTV wrote: Thank you for your feedback. As I have previously stated this is an interview featuring the work of HTOMario. This is also a multi part series and more interviews will be on the way, if Avilo is willing to be interviewed then we are happy to oblige.
However as to date we have never had any interactions with Avilo, never spoken to Avilo and the previous mentioned players where taken both on current notable games in the tournament scene and availability of players. We have no person bias against any players in the scene. However it would be nice to see comments more focusing on the discussed points rather than rail roading it because player xyz was not mentioned.
You named the thread "Modern Mechanic" maybe rename to "HTOmario interview" would be a good idea if it's not to discuss "Modern Mechanic" ![](/mirror/smilies/smile.gif) a bit misleading because the opening mentions many mech players, except the one that popularized the raven style mentioned a lot in the thread ![](/mirror/smilies/bier.gif)
Whats your problem? He said it was a multi post article. He said multiple times that he would get in contact with you.
You're so arrogant and self centered dude. For a 26 year old that lives at home with his parents you need to bring yourself down a notch. You arent the first person ever to do mech. You arent the first person to use a lot of ravens.
Did you even bother reading the OP's responses or even the article?
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woah avilo desperately looking for some recognition
and to be fair avilo you do act like you invented mech, but without copying people on SC1 you wouldn't have a clue what a mech style would look like, you didn't invent anything, you just played a fuckton with mech units because you won't let go of brood war nostalgia
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On January 04 2014 10:17 Kalfos wrote: I think we can all agree Late Game Mech + Raven composition was popularized and used by Avilo for a long time even before winfestors came up.
"Popularized" I dont think you know what that word means. Popularized = made it popular. I dont see ANYBODY play Avilo's style, first of all, secondly, building Ravens doesnt make you an innovator. Ravens are the WoL infestor of heart of the swarm. Realistically, you cannot beat mass ravens.
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he's getting exactly what he wants, he made the entire thread about himself and we're all still talking about him. insulting him doesn't do anything for the OP, who posted a perfectly good thread and committed no crime other than not genuflecting at the altar of avilo. the only way to deal with people who have an attention problem like his is to completely ignore his chatter when it's inappropriate. otherwise he has no motive to stop.
thanks for the article, OP. please don't let divas with overinflated egos discourage you from publishing more content in the future.
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Canada8157 Posts
I think Yoshi Kirishima deserves recognition for his undying loyalty to mech, the man works wonders with it
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On January 04 2014 10:17 Kalfos wrote: I think we can all agree Late Game Mech + Raven composition was popularized and used by Avilo for a long time even before winfestors came up.
Uh no, it was used in wol well before avilo even got remotely popular on streams. Contrary to Avilo and some of his fans he was not the inventor of it.
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Dt/sair was something not seen before that actually worked against the best
Mech in Star 2 is basically trying to play like Star 1, in a way that does not really yield the results it would need to garner a comparision with bisu (blessed be his name)
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On January 04 2014 10:56 Jer99 wrote: I think Yoshi Kirishima deserves recognition for his undying loyalty to mech, the man works wonders with it I will do some research on him as I haven't encountered him myself. Thanks for the feedback and helping making part 2 even better!
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On January 04 2014 10:26 Challengerr wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 10:17 Kalfos wrote: I think we can all agree Late Game Mech + Raven composition was popularized and used by Avilo for a long time even before winfestors came up. "Popularized" I dont think you know what that word means. Popularized = made it popular. I dont see ANYBODY play Avilo's style, first of all, secondly, building Ravens doesnt make you an innovator. Ravens are the WoL infestor of heart of the swarm. Realistically, you cannot beat mass ravens.
Trying to make raven (and mech) work with a very good degree of success while everyone else is still stuck in bio play ... that is innovation (at least in TvZ/TvT). Just because you don't see it in tournaments it doesn't mean no one knows about it.
PS: are we talking about HotS? right?
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On January 04 2014 10:56 Jer99 wrote: I think Yoshi Kirishima deserves recognition for his undying loyalty to mech, the man works wonders with it Did he made some big mech content ? I used to really enjoy sharing with him about my mech guide, but i lost track of a lot of people when taking my breaks from the game / TL.
edit : also, do i have the right to act angry about the article not giving me any credit about my mech innovations in WoL ? plz plz plz plz *.* (and obviously, this is irony. I prefer to add it, since some people forget to spot it)
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Before even reading the comments I knew this would be an Avilo vs. the world whinefest...
Besides that, good write up! Glad to see HTOMario gaining some more speed in the scene, he has been a huge provider of replays, strategy and write ups for a while, and this is well deserved recognition.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
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On January 04 2014 11:14 HomeWorld wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 10:26 Challengerr wrote:On January 04 2014 10:17 Kalfos wrote: I think we can all agree Late Game Mech + Raven composition was popularized and used by Avilo for a long time even before winfestors came up. "Popularized" I dont think you know what that word means. Popularized = made it popular. I dont see ANYBODY play Avilo's style, first of all, secondly, building Ravens doesnt make you an innovator. Ravens are the WoL infestor of heart of the swarm. Realistically, you cannot beat mass ravens. Trying to make raven (and mech) work with a very good degree of success while everyone else is still stuck in bio play ... that is innovation (at least in TvZ/TvT). Just because you don't see it in tournaments it doesn't mean no one knows about it. PS: are we talking about HotS? right?
I wouldn't call building Ravens with mech an innovation. People aren't "stuck" on bio play, its just the best style to play. You have fun, its fast paced, and its all around great for every matchup.
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This cracks me up. I think I love avilo more than normal after reading these posts hahaha
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You lost me at "HTOMario is the strongest Mech player". Thought this was serious. Also to Avilo, you literally popularized nothing. So please stop!
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On January 04 2014 11:07 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2014 10:17 Kalfos wrote: I think we can all agree Late Game Mech + Raven composition was popularized and used by Avilo for a long time even before winfestors came up. Uh no, it was used in wol well before avilo even got remotely popular on streams. Contrary to Avilo and some of his fans he was not the inventor of it.
This, this shouldn't even be a conversation. Not a single player from NA popularized any form of Mech. Everyone in all parts of Masters has been using Mech since WOL and well into HOTS.
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?36919 Posts
On January 04 2014 11:53 Rekrul wrote: i invented arbiters fwiw I thought you invented the Lurker.
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nice interview, I really like his style of mech the best out of all. his personality is awesome too
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