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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
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JDfz
United Kingdom50 Posts
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agahamsorr0w
Netherlands359 Posts
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Lyyna
France776 Posts
On January 04 2014 23:23 agahamsorr0w wrote: to be fair, avilo has been trying to make raven usage work since what? early 2012? give him some credit. Should i do the same than him, because i'm using Mech + banshee -> raven -> sky since 2011 then and even made the only big guide about it in the worst mech MU? It's not "fair" not to give credits to me, right ? --' He's not just trying to "get credit". He's trying to pull all credits and attention about this subject to himself, and basically want to get crowned as the king, god, savior and only important user of Mech since Starcraft 2 Wings of Liberty came out. HTOMario,Strelok, Mvp, Lagforce, Goody, myself, all the others... all these players who participated to Mech at their respective levels, in their made some innovations and popularized some things, in avilo's world, they don't exist, or they only got inspired by his own genius Using it once before it became popular on stream =/= Being the first to do it constantly =/= invented =/= popularized =/= made it used by pros. Some people should realize that, and some people should figure out what "multiple parts" means, since it was said a couple times by the op.. The content itself is nice and it would be stupid to turn another mech-based discussion into an avilo praise/hate-thread | ||
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agahamsorr0w
Netherlands359 Posts
On January 04 2014 23:54 Lyyna wrote: Should i do the same than him, because i'm using Mech + banshee -> raven -> sky since 2011 then and even made the only big guide about it in one MU? --' He's not just trying to "get credit". He's trying to pull all credits and attention about this subject to himself, and basically want to get crowned as the king, god, and savior of Mech since Starcraft 2 Wings of Liberty came out Being the first to do it on stream =/= invented =/= popularized =/= made it used by pros. Some people should realize that, and some people should figure out what "multiple parts" means, since it was said a couple times by the op.. The content itself is nice and it would be stupid to turn another mech-based discussion into an avilo praise/hate-thread if you can do better then i suggest you start streaming and promoting mech yourself. Avilo might be a little arrogant but i know some people who have been inspired by him. who have you inspired? stop trying to get people down to your level with your hate and envy. hes just trying to get some recognition. after all, why do we play this game for? for sure its not to get bitched on by some random dude on a forum. | ||
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Epamynondas
387 Posts
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Faust852
Luxembourg4004 Posts
On January 05 2014 00:24 agahamsorr0w wrote: if you can do better then i suggest you start streaming and promoting mech yourself. Avilo might be a little arrogant but i know some people who have been inspired by him. who have you inspired? stop trying to get people down to your level with your hate and envy. hes just trying to get some recognition. after all, why do we play this game for? for sure its not to get bitched on by some random dude on a forum. Erhm. Lyyna did a lot for mech users, if you don't know him doesn't mean he's unknown for everyone. Check his mech guide and see how many feedback he got. Gosh people these days are so self centred. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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sage_francis
France1823 Posts
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
On January 04 2014 22:03 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Interesting interview! Thanks for posting this. I'm not really sure why someone would only play one particular style, but if he's having success, then that's great! Yes you're just like Bisu >.> Except I'm pretty sure that the Bisu Build wasn't TvP lol... Avilo is partly right, the Bisu build was primarily used PvZ, but then it was used by others PvT, the goal was to use the corsair disruption web to stop tank from firing, while protoss forces would then destroy them (almost no one used corsair except for scouting) Here is a liquipedia link: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Corsair and Here is the Bisu build : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bisu_Build | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On January 05 2014 01:41 PaeZ wrote: Avilo is partly right, the Bisu build was primarily used PvZ, but then it was used by others PvT, the goal was to use the corsair disruption web to stop tank from firing, while protoss forces would then destroy them (almost no one used corsair except for scouting) Here is a liquipedia link: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Corsair and Here is the Bisu build : http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Bisu_Build I think you missed DarkPlasmaBall's point lol. It was likely Avilo was talking about PvZ since that's primarily where it's used(it's rare to see corsair/dt in PvT nowadays if you've been watching BW(and even in the past, it wasn't popular by any stretch of the imagination)). Either way, just felt I should point this out. | ||
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vNmMasterT
68 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=yosho&gb=date&d= to the all humble, blame yourself always before balance, modern mechanic HTOMario. What a personality (and gameplay) overhaul you have gone through.Bravo! Avilo's main problem was that he never went through a personality change like you since Hots was released. He prefers to work on his mech play like he has done so since WoL beta. Btw I don't think you can legitly get to rank 28 gm w/ random, since you have already been caught by Yume for getting boosted into gm. http://www.reddit.com/r/AllThingsTerran/comments/1h3j6j/htomario_possibly_boosted_to_gm_verify/ It is sad that baseless witch hunts forced players like EmpireMista to retire, yet legit claims like this is simply glossed over by the community when the target is someone with a nice guy reputation and having built a strong group of followers. | ||
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PoisonTV
United Kingdom32 Posts
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
As far as genuinely good and "innovative" Terran players that made mech work at the high level, both in WOL and HOTS, there is only one and that is MVP. In HOTS at the highest level mech just doesn't really exist outside of TvT (with the exception from MVP in a few TvZ). There is no such thing as "Modern Mechanic". So in essence i like the interview but i dislike the presentation. | ||
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Lyyna
France776 Posts
On January 05 2014 03:30 PoisonTV wrote: Thank you for all the positive feedback, it is saddening to see after a lot of effort that some people want to detract from what will be a good series of write ups. We look forward to bringing more articles to the TL community on the topic of mech. By the way, do you plan to do some strategic contents or are you going to focus mainly on players' interviews like here ? | ||
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mau5mat
Northern Ireland461 Posts
On January 05 2014 03:14 vNmMasterT wrote: good job Yosho, you clearly deserved the recognition. Over the last year you have transformed from this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=yosho&gb=date&d= to the all humble, blame yourself always before balance, modern mechanic HTOMario. What a personality (and gameplay) overhaul you have gone through.Bravo! Avilo's main problem was that he never went through a personality change like you since Hots was released. He prefers to work on his mech play like he has done so since WoL beta. Btw I don't think you can legitly get to rank 28 gm w/ random, since you have already been caught by Yume for getting boosted into gm. http://www.reddit.com/r/AllThingsTerran/comments/1h3j6j/htomario_possibly_boosted_to_gm_verify/ It is sad that baseless witch hunts forced players like EmpireMista to retire, yet legit claims like this is simply glossed over by the community when the target is someone with a nice guy reputation and having built a strong group of followers. I don't think it was actually confirmed that he was boosted? | ||
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HTOMario
United States439 Posts
On January 05 2014 03:59 mau5mat wrote: I don't think it was actually confirmed that he was boosted? -.- I had 4 accounts in gm last season, 3 of which I got promoted on stream. This boosted crap was just a smear campaign. | ||
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PoisonTV
United Kingdom32 Posts
On January 05 2014 03:52 Lyyna wrote: By the way, do you plan to do some strategic contents or are you going to focus mainly on players' interviews like here ? We hopefully plan to cover a full spectrum, if you could PM me your contact details then I would love to talk more | ||
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
His TvT vs Minigun last night proved Avilo has "a certain set of skills" Anyways, I know there's more to come, look forward to it. | ||
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KingAlphard
Italy1705 Posts
On January 05 2014 00:24 agahamsorr0w wrote: if you can do better then i suggest you start streaming and promoting mech yourself. Avilo might be a little arrogant but i know some people who have been inspired by him. who have you inspired? stop trying to get people down to your level with your hate and envy. hes just trying to get some recognition. after all, why do we play this game for? for sure its not to get bitched on by some random dude on a forum. Trying to get some recognition doesn't mean coming into a thread and whining like a 12 year old kid because he wasn't mentioned. | ||
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