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HyuN owed $23,000 in back pay and prize money by Quantic

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TL.net ESPORTS
Profile Joined July 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 10:11:27
January 01 2014 02:48 GMT
#1
(Z)HyuN posted the following message about his situation with Quantic. (Korean original)
DailyDot reported earlier that Quantic owner Simon Boudreault had dropped off the radar, leaving former players hanging.


Hello, this is HyuN.

I began my contract with Quantic on January 28th and have spent the last year with them. Because the team was in a special situation where it formed from a merger of many teams, it was in an unstable state where one of the owners left as I was playing for the team.

Simon would always buy tickets late, even though you could get them cheaper if you bought them earlier, and he even bought me business class tickets to IEM Shanghai because I had just won DreamHack (even though he had already bought tickets). Even in the case of hotels, there were times I wondered if it was too expensive.

Since when I started to notice these things, Simon was always late to respond to me. It wasn't a big nuisiance for me to have flights booked late, but he would always respond late and would lie about having booked flights when he had not, booking them when the time for the tournament had almost come. So, there was a lot of stress there.

In my final tournament schedule of HSC, Red Bull, and DH Winter, he always said he had booked the flights but in reality it was very tough because they would be booked one day before.

Also, at the time my salary had been delayed for a few months, and I had yet to receive prize money from three tournaments (DH Stockholm, DH Summer, DH Valencia). DreamHack has an invoice system, so the team would receive the money. In the end, IEM was the last time I saw Simon, and I wasn't able to see or chat with him since.

Before IEM, Simon told me he would give me my salary and DreamHack Prize money, and gave me an explaination. But it was always a lie. He always said he had sent the DreamHack prize money, but I heard he had actually used that money to support the LoL team. As for the reason he could not send the money, he said it was because according to Canadian law it was too large an amount to send, and said he would give me the money from the sponsors instead, but that was a lie as well. The sponsors didn't even know about this.

After my last scheduled events he went off the radar, except to occasionally leave a line saying that he would send the money. The money I should have received was 80,000 SEK from DreamHack winnings (about $12,500) and $26,400 (2,200 x 12) in salary, but I only received $2,200 x5, and after that $950 x5, leaving $10,650 I have not received. In total it's about $23,000 I have not received.

Simon has gone off the map, and there is no one to be held responsible. I'm regretting the year I spent taking countless flights, and I'm so stressed out I'm wondering why I spent eight years as a gamer. I don't know what to do, and it's been a while since I've played since I just can't bring myself to. If someone can't help me out, I might have to quit.

If I quit now, then I'm thankful to Simon for letting me finally rest after eight tough years of progaming. I'll never forget you!

I need help, but I don't even know what will help me. This link contains my conversatiosn with Simon. http://imgur.com/xVlXWYe,AneHU6y,Mnf33uA,rBX8lYE,1IF1Oda,jfgUqfR,MflPkwG#0

I'm sorry to all my fans and friends who cheered for me.
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robert1005
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands98 Posts
January 01 2014 02:50 GMT
#2
HOLY SHIT, thats a lot of money. Money that won't be payed back it seems!

Man I feel bad for him
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 02:54:46
January 01 2014 02:51 GMT
#3
A very large shame, HyuN's original asking price was quite high as well (back when Quantic was first reforming)
I've met the owner once, amicable person, but my impression of him was mixed.

I'm unsurprised, as many are, about this however. It's just a real shame and he is definitely not the only one, even in staff, that's remained unpaid. Quantic never had a good reputation from the inside (pre-Mark Ferraz and current) and the players always carried the team name more than the organization itself.
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Freeze967
Profile Joined August 2011
United States230 Posts
January 01 2014 02:52 GMT
#4
That sucks... Hope you get it back HyuN!

Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
January 01 2014 02:52 GMT
#5
The credibility on some of those "esport people" are sickening!

How would any progamer go on a team now knowing that these type of shadyness exist?

#Quantic #hurtingesport
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 01 2014 02:52 GMT
#6
I wish all the tournament organizers would pay the players directly instead of the team. What the hell Dreamhack?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Atokad
Profile Joined November 2010
United States204 Posts
January 01 2014 02:53 GMT
#7
I hope someone will be able to get you into contact with either Simon or someone who can help you with your situation. Best of luck.
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Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 02:53:42
January 01 2014 02:53 GMT
#8
Yet another player thats being fucked by his team, so why don't we have a union supported by Blizzard to keep players safe?

I doubt he's going to quit, any team would want him on their roster.
Really unfortunate for Hyun but it's sad you saw it coming after the Massan incident.

edit: and haven't Robert stated on shows that they pay the players directly and not the teams?
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Gojira621
Profile Joined October 2010
United States374 Posts
January 01 2014 02:53 GMT
#9
Hyun needs to hire a lawyer immediately. This is straight up theft. This guy can't disappear forever
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ImperialFist
Profile Joined April 2013
790 Posts
January 01 2014 02:53 GMT
#10
this is so sad, <3 hyun

hoping for the best
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crayolalax
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia27 Posts
January 01 2014 02:54 GMT
#11
Tournaments should really be paying to players..this kind of thing has happened so many times. Such a shitty thing to happen to HyuN, he doesn't deserve it.
jackslater
Profile Joined November 2012
Russian Federation604 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 02:55:26
January 01 2014 02:55 GMT
#12
OMG, f*cking scum Simon...
Soo sad for Hyun...soo much hard work and this final sh1t
DaftFunk
Profile Joined June 2013
194 Posts
January 01 2014 02:55 GMT
#13
figures that fat fuck

User was warned for this post
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
January 01 2014 02:55 GMT
#14
It would be absolutely tragic if Hyun bowed out because of this bs.

Taking a players winnings to pay for an LoL team.... despicable.
Major
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Mexico539 Posts
January 01 2014 02:55 GMT
#15
this is terrible. but we cant blame dreamhack for this unless they have policy to pay the teams and not the player(which i doubt). its just seems like a horrible person took advantage of a very nice guy like hyun. which really makes me mad about this while thing

i hope hyun gets his money back he doesnt deserve this if u ever met him u would know how nice of a guy he is.
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ratty
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand275 Posts
January 01 2014 02:55 GMT
#16
yeah i would have hoped DH would have enough sense to pay the players direct but still FUCK you quantic
no. monkeys land on their feet, they're like masturbating cats ~ #~hyvaa~#~
ROOTSasquatch
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States234 Posts
January 01 2014 02:57 GMT
#17
HyuN is such a nice guy, can't believe this happened to him. Hopefully something can happen to fix this
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Veriol
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic502 Posts
January 01 2014 02:58 GMT
#18
I never had good feeling about Quantic .. . Its really sad especially when its HyuN, such hard worker!
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." -iloveoov
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
January 01 2014 02:58 GMT
#19
On January 01 2014 11:53 Gojira621 wrote:
Hyun needs to hire a lawyer immediately. This is straight up theft. This guy can't disappear forever

He can disappear for a long time, he doesn't even really have to hide. Also, lawyers are expensive and trials can take years to finish. And even if HyuN can sue him successfully, there is a chance that Simon doesn't have the money anymore and can't give anything back.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 01 2014 02:58 GMT
#20
What does the quantic manager think? Hide for some time and everyone will forget? This will have a legal afterplay, even if it takes months or years to find him.
keep it deep! @zulison
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