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HyuN owed $23,000 in back pay and prize money by Quantic -…

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ForcesEqualZero
Profile Joined April 2013
United States17 Posts
January 01 2014 03:22 GMT
#61
Going to join the chorus here, someone please post Hyun's paypal, I'd like to donate to keep him going. Someone should also contact the RCMP on Hyun's behalf, maybe this is fraud under Canadian law?
sagi
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland346 Posts
January 01 2014 03:26 GMT
#62
Damn. Really hope the internet does its magic on this one.
hi patrik!
lystier
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
China877 Posts
January 01 2014 03:27 GMT
#63
holy...this sucks. and i don't see a positive outcome that Hyun could get this back. wish him good luck.
Startale forever.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
January 01 2014 03:27 GMT
#64
SC2 scene is depressing as fuck these days, i dont give a shit about other games and how they're doing, i don't like those games, i just want a healthy scene in which stuff like this doesn't happen, at this point it almost feels not worth following the scene anymore, as sad as that is.
Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
January 01 2014 03:28 GMT
#65


This was his last tweet on twitter. I'm surprised quantic management didn't look into it immediately after seeing this kind of tweet because If I saw this I would immediately find out what is going on.
[RAVEN ONLINE] "You don't talk like us" [....CAW CAW] -QXC
Grouch
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada152 Posts
January 01 2014 03:29 GMT
#66
Calling all TL lawyers
Sound #1
Midday
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada59 Posts
January 01 2014 03:30 GMT
#67
That guy never sat straight in my mind - I've dealt with lots of flaky people and when I read that guy's conversation with MaSsan, my flake detectors were going nuts -__-
So, let's go!
Uldred
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada19 Posts
January 01 2014 03:31 GMT
#68
Really horrible on Quantic and Simon's part. I can't support any of their sponsors after this if it doesn't get resolved.

Burn Controllers, ROCCAT and Alienware won't ever receive my business after this.

I realize they aren't at fault, but they have some responsibility in this seeing as how their name and brand is attached to Quantic.
???
LUciferNine
Profile Joined October 2013
Australia18 Posts
January 01 2014 03:32 GMT
#69
If that guy gets away with this, I will be seriously pissed.

Hang in there Hyun!
Dear <3
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 03:32:50
January 01 2014 03:32 GMT
#70
On January 01 2014 12:27 RiSkysc2 wrote:
SC2 scene is depressing as fuck these days, i dont give a shit about other games and how they're doing, i don't like those games, i just want a healthy scene in which stuff like this doesn't happen, at this point it almost feels not worth following the scene anymore, as sad as that is.

Scam like this existed always, it existed in 2012, in 2011, in 2010 and before too. This is nothing new and happens more than you think.
MaSsan
Profile Joined June 2009
United States143 Posts
January 01 2014 03:32 GMT
#71
On January 01 2014 11:58 Genie1 wrote:
Huh? Money is not given directly to the players? Okay well now I see where the big flaw is right now. Money should be given to the player and not to the team. I always thought it was given to the players directly after the tournament in the form of a cheque or transferred from one bank account to another. I think the way money is distributed by tournaments needs changing and especially after this incident.


Simon convinced hyun saying that he can apply for tax waiver, so 15% less tax if it was done by team, whether this was truth or not.


@MaSsanSC
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
January 01 2014 03:33 GMT
#72
This sucks big time, not paying player's prize money? That's really really bad. Pls stop making eSports (especially sc2 scene) looks bad!

On January 01 2014 12:03 FusionSC2 wrote:
This is so sad. Why can't the world be a nice place.


Because it's the world!
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
January 01 2014 03:34 GMT
#73
Obviously this is a shitty situation for Hyun, but...

Is it standard practice for prize money to be sent to team/manager, rather than the player directly? Seems kinda fucked.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
January 01 2014 03:34 GMT
#74
Oh my god I'm about to cry
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 03:36:05
January 01 2014 03:34 GMT
#75
On January 01 2014 12:22 ForcesEqualZero wrote:
Going to join the chorus here, someone please post Hyun's paypal, I'd like to donate to keep him going. Someone should also contact the RCMP on Hyun's behalf, maybe this is fraud under Canadian law?



Lol. I dont think the RCMP has that authority in Quebec. I dont know if this would be fraud or if he is just another creditor of a business that went belly up...

But in all honesty, I dont think he will ever get his money back, sadly. It would probably involve him fronting massive amounts of cash to pay for a trial that takes forever at the other end of the globe in a language he doesnt understand. Meanwhile, fat fuck Boudreault would do his best to delay the procedure and make sure Hyun runs out of cash before they can get a verdict.

about the outcry on prize money: isnt it standard for korean teams to keep the majority of the prize money earned by a player?
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Soohyung
Profile Joined April 2012
Korea (South)116 Posts
January 01 2014 03:34 GMT
#76
Wow he should get a lawyer on this, Quantic's manager is a huge cunt.
이지은
jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
January 01 2014 03:34 GMT
#77
Legitimize the scene please. We need a players union.
"I think bringing a toddler to a movie theater is a terrible idea. They are too young to understand what is happening it would be like giving your toddler acid. Bad idea." - Sinensis
ivancype
Profile Joined December 2012
Brazil485 Posts
January 01 2014 03:35 GMT
#78
On January 01 2014 12:11 NmExZeus wrote:
Perhaps the TL community could try to raise a fund for Quantic gamers that have been cheated out of their money by the likes of Simon? Would be great if any major TL personalities decided to lead it


I would help if the fund was to pay for lawyers and shit to put this simon guy in jail.
The other race is OP
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 03:37:33
January 01 2014 03:36 GMT
#79
On January 01 2014 12:34 Netsky wrote:
Obviously this is a shitty situation for Hyun, but...

Is it standard practice for prize money to be sent to team/manager, rather than the player directly? Seems kinda fucked.


Already discussion about this but MLG and IEM does pay to the players directly, Dreamhack pays whoever claims it (as long as the claimer has rights) -- in this case, the team claimed it.

On January 01 2014 12:08 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 12:02 Grettin wrote:
On January 01 2014 11:58 Genie1 wrote:
Huh? Money is not given directly to the players? Okay well now I see where the big flaw is right now. Money should be given to the player and not to the team. I always thought it was given to the players directly after the tournament in the form of a cheque or transferred from one bank account to another. I think the way money is distributed by tournaments needs changing and especially after this incident.


Atleast MLG and IEM gives money to the players, Dreamhack seems not.


Heres the prize money policy: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs13/esport/prize-money-policy/

From what I understand reading it Hyun could have done it by himself, Dreamhack doesn't send you the money, you have to claim it.
Quantic probably told Hyun it would be best if they did it for him.

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SunflowerSeeds
Profile Joined December 2013
90 Posts
January 01 2014 03:36 GMT
#80
On January 01 2014 12:27 RiSkysc2 wrote:
SC2 scene is depressing as fuck these days, i dont give a shit about other games and how they're doing, i don't like those games, i just want a healthy scene in which stuff like this doesn't happen, at this point it almost feels not worth following the scene anymore, as sad as that is.


That's why we need a strong organization like KeSPA to protect and guarantee players' and owners' stakes, but they can only try to do it in Korea. We can never have a strong organization on international stage, unless SC2 grows into another tennis. How can a teenager with no money pursue a lawsuit against a businessman from a country on the other side of the world? Those money are most likely gone for Hyun, poor Hyun, liked him as a mediocre zerg for a long time in BW.

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