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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:35 ivancype wrote: I would help if the fund was to pay for lawyers and shit to put this simon guy in jail. the team went bankrupt. are we gonna put everybody that goes bankrupt behind bars??? come on the guy is a massive pos but its not a crime yet to be the retarded manager of your own business. | ||
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Genie1
Canada333 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:36 Grettin wrote: Already discussion about this but MLG and IEM does pay to the players directly, Dreamhack pays whoever claims it (as long as claimer has rights) -- in this case, the team claimed it. Well it seems DreamHack needs to change there payout policy so that player is directly given the money. | ||
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:28 Genie1 wrote: This was his last tweet on twitter. I'm surprised quantic management didn't look into it immediately after seeing this kind of tweet because If I saw this I would immediately find out what is going on. This tweet wasn't too out of place. One of their League of Legends players started a twitter thing of "Cursed Dreams and Broken Hearts" (https://twitter.com/Locodoco/status/409074189392293888) and this at just seemed like their manager parodying it after they lost their chance to join the LCS (the LoL equivalent to WCS). | ||
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igay
Australia1178 Posts
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Imbu
United States903 Posts
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erby
464 Posts
Second, the hot topic after Unfiltered is the lack of infrastructure of esports in North America, but how can you even talk infrastructure when you have people like Simon of Quantic or Marco formerly with Speed? The problem isn't just infrastructure but also shady people screwing over progamers who give up so much and get burnt to the point where they give up. Better infrastructure needs to address this problem directly. | ||
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MaSsan
United States143 Posts
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ArcadeR
Germany199 Posts
Sad for Hyun, also don't get why he didn't come up earlier with this. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:37 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: the team went bankrupt. are we gonna put everybody that goes bankrupt behind bars??? come on the guy is a massive pos but its not a crime yet to be the retarded manager of your own business. it depends how the guy was cheated out of money. If it was just incompetent management that simply couldnt afford to pay the wages they promised thats one thing. If they somehow took the money that they didnt have the legal right to take, thats another. Anyway, sucks for Quantic. Maybe they can get a kickstarter going, if Catz can get enough money to run a house in California for a year youd think the 'community' would want to help Hyun out. | ||
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ForcesEqualZero
United States17 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:34 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Lol. I dont think the RCMP has that authority in Quebec. I dont know if this would be fraud or if he is just another creditor of a business that went belly up... But in all honesty, I dont think he will ever get his money back, sadly. It would probably involve him fronting massive amounts of cash to pay for a trial that takes forever at the other end of the globe in a language he doesnt understand. Meanwhile, fat fuck Boudreault would do his best to delay the procedure and make sure Hyun runs out of cash before they can get a verdict. about the outcry on prize money: isnt it standard for korean teams to keep the majority of the prize money earned by a player? How he could be a creditor in this situation is quite insane. The prize money is his, not the team's right? Taking that from him is theft, is fraudulent behavior. RCMP, whomever, if what he did wasn't illegal, it's really sad. | ||
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QueenE
Sweden22 Posts
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Olli
Austria24418 Posts
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tredogz
Canada170 Posts
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negativedge
4279 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:10 negativedge wrote: probably the only way for this to work out well for Hyun is to put pressure on the sponsors. they don't want shitty publicity and they have much more power to do something about it than Hyun does. so we need to send tweets and emails to Roccat, Alienware, and whoever else has an agreement with Quantic. if anyone knows Hyun personally or has contact with him, they should tell him to talk to the sponsors and document what is said. I feel like I should repost this so it isn't at the bottom of a page. We need to contact the sponsors. They are not at fault, but they have the ability to do something about it. | ||
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PPN
France248 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:41 ArcadeR wrote: So......there is a guy managing players, handling the prize money and everything for a "big" team....and there is no one that has a reliable business contact(not even the real name)? And thats just one thing that comes to my mind... sounds like a blueprint of unprofessionalism to me. How can it be that such key positions between the parties aren't secured and controlled(answer is clear, for the "cpt obvious' out there")? Sad for Hyun, also don't get why he didn't come up earlier with this. People know his real name. Simon Boudreault. He hasn't been some mysterious enigma - hell, I was just looking at his LinkedIn page. The thing is, even if you are well know and famous you can effectively disappear. Especially if you are on a different continent from the person trying to contact you. I think maybe Simon should have stayed in sales. | ||
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Genie1
Canada333 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:46 DarkLordOlli wrote: This isn't the first time. Get as far away as you can, Hyun. You're good enough for any other team. You're forgetting the part of him needing to get his money from Quantic. | ||
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Serinox
Germany5224 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:44 QueenE wrote: Isn't there anyone close to HyuN that can help him follow this through legally? This needs to be taken care of professionally.... I don't think anything can be done. Every team scam I heard of went without any legal consequences, because it's way too expensive and too time consuming to sue someone over this. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On January 01 2014 12:47 Zenbrez wrote: Now that's how you scam a team, not that 200$ BS thing some guy tried to pull on a team with no income a few months ago. Really sad for Hyun. Wouldn't exactly call it a scam. Sure, what's happening now (and what happened to MaSsan) is complete bullshit, but Simon did put a lot of money into Quantic from the beginning. He's basically just cutting and running now, and taking all the liquid assets from the business with him. | ||
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