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Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
January 01 2014 02:58 GMT
#21
Huh? Money is not given directly to the players? Okay well now I see where the big flaw is right now. Money should be given to the player and not to the team. I always thought it was given to the players directly after the tournament in the form of a cheque or transferred from one bank account to another. I think the way money is distributed by tournaments needs changing and especially after this incident.
[RAVEN ONLINE] "You don't talk like us" [....CAW CAW] -QXC
AnTaCOrrAllE
Profile Joined August 2013
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 02:59:25
January 01 2014 02:59 GMT
#22
This is quite terrible... Hyun is such a good player... Reminds me of the LoveTT scandal that's going on in Chinese SC2 sphere...
Sleeping is marvelous.
2xNoodle
Profile Joined May 2012
United States201 Posts
January 01 2014 02:59 GMT
#23
Sounds like HyuN got straight up scammed

After the initial problems, it sounds like it would've been better for him to have it arranged to that the tournaments payed him directly instead of through the team. Salary is problematic enough, but there's absolutely no reason he shouldn't have received his tournament winnings.
Former Senior Editor for ROOT Gaming | https://twitter.com/2xNoodle
tomastaz
Profile Joined January 2013
United States976 Posts
January 01 2014 03:00 GMT
#24
This sucks. I had no idea Quantic reformed was so sketchy
No church in the wild --- @tzhang0126
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
January 01 2014 03:01 GMT
#25
I hope Dreamhack learned its lesson.

Quantic, such a mess. Always been, always will be remembered that way.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 01 2014 03:02 GMT
#26
On January 01 2014 11:58 Genie1 wrote:
Huh? Money is not given directly to the players? Okay well now I see where the big flaw is right now. Money should be given to the player and not to the team. I always thought it was given to the players directly after the tournament in the form of a cheque or transferred from one bank account to another. I think the way money is distributed by tournaments needs changing and especially after this incident.


Atleast MLG and IEM gives money to the players, Dreamhack seems not.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
sGSyntax
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada5 Posts
January 01 2014 03:02 GMT
#27
Contract fraud, this should be pursued in a criminal court or a claims court. Simon needs to be held accountable, this cannot be allowed to happen.What a complete douche.
FusionSC2
Profile Joined June 2013
Ireland29 Posts
January 01 2014 03:03 GMT
#28
This is so sad. Why can't the world be a nice place.
I came, I saw, I conquered
NeV
Profile Joined July 2008
Italy370 Posts
January 01 2014 03:03 GMT
#29
well there should be some contract or something written.. the guy can't just get away with it this simply
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
January 01 2014 03:03 GMT
#30
If I quit now, then I'm thankful to Simon for letting me finally rest after eight tough years of progaming. I'll never forget you!


That's a heavy line! i like it

I wish u all the best hyun, hopefully things sort themselves out very very soon, you deserve way better than this <3
Zeppelin535
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada262 Posts
January 01 2014 03:03 GMT
#31
Feel so bad for HyuN.

That Simon scumbag should've been driven from the scene after the MaSsan scandal.
Bones (P) | @BonesSC2 | twitch.tv/Bones535
Names
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada328 Posts
January 01 2014 03:03 GMT
#32
Hope everything gets fixed somehow. Can't believe a team owner can have so little respect for his players. Don't give up progaming just yet!
cCav
Profile Joined July 2013
62 Posts
January 01 2014 03:04 GMT
#33
I sincerely hope Hyun sue's for breach of contract.
Ex-Clarity Gaming General Manager, Flipsid3 Tactics Team Manager @CavThinks
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
January 01 2014 03:07 GMT
#34
On January 01 2014 12:04 cCav wrote:
I sincerely hope Hyun sue's for breach of contract.

That would probably cost HyuN more money than the 23k.
Genie1
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada333 Posts
January 01 2014 03:07 GMT
#35
On January 01 2014 12:02 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 11:58 Genie1 wrote:
Huh? Money is not given directly to the players? Okay well now I see where the big flaw is right now. Money should be given to the player and not to the team. I always thought it was given to the players directly after the tournament in the form of a cheque or transferred from one bank account to another. I think the way money is distributed by tournaments needs changing and especially after this incident.


Atleast MLG and IEM gives money to the players, Dreamhack seems not.


Dreamhack should honor the prize money and give it to Hyun and then Dreamhack pursue legal action against Simon for fraud.
[RAVEN ONLINE] "You don't talk like us" [....CAW CAW] -QXC
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
January 01 2014 03:08 GMT
#36
On January 01 2014 12:02 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 11:58 Genie1 wrote:
Huh? Money is not given directly to the players? Okay well now I see where the big flaw is right now. Money should be given to the player and not to the team. I always thought it was given to the players directly after the tournament in the form of a cheque or transferred from one bank account to another. I think the way money is distributed by tournaments needs changing and especially after this incident.


Atleast MLG and IEM gives money to the players, Dreamhack seems not.


Heres the prize money policy: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhs13/esport/prize-money-policy/

From what I understand reading it Hyun could have done it by himself, Dreamhack doesn't send you the money, you have to claim it.
Quantic probably told Hyun it would be best if they did it for him.
The curse is real
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
January 01 2014 03:08 GMT
#37
On January 01 2014 12:07 Genie1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2014 12:02 Grettin wrote:
On January 01 2014 11:58 Genie1 wrote:
Huh? Money is not given directly to the players? Okay well now I see where the big flaw is right now. Money should be given to the player and not to the team. I always thought it was given to the players directly after the tournament in the form of a cheque or transferred from one bank account to another. I think the way money is distributed by tournaments needs changing and especially after this incident.


Atleast MLG and IEM gives money to the players, Dreamhack seems not.


Dreamhack should honor the prize money and give it to Hyun and then Dreamhack pursue legal action against Simon for fraud.


Nothing in it for DH to do such a thing.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
January 01 2014 03:09 GMT
#38
Disgusting. Stay strong HyuN, you'll find a good team soon. A real one.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
January 01 2014 03:09 GMT
#39
Jesus fucking christ.... this scene makes me so sad sometimes.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
January 01 2014 03:10 GMT
#40
probably the only way for this to work out well for Hyun is to put pressure on the sponsors. they don't want shitty publicity and they have much more power to do something about it than Hyun does. so we need to send tweets and emails to Roccat, Alienware, and whoever else has an agreement with Quantic. if anyone knows Hyun personally or has contact with him, they should tell him to talk to the sponsors and document what is said.
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