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cameler
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada99 Posts
April 15 2014 15:56 GMT
#141
On April 15 2014 04:00 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2014 23:54 KelianQatar wrote:
Filter's tutorials were awesome. He seriously stopped me from only playing the campaign and got me to top silver. But such is the cycle of life... everything has a life cycle and I think we're seeing the end of SC's.

gl hf wp

no we're not.

Filter did do great stuff for the new people though.


I think he meant "death" as in it's not attractive to try and get good at the game therefore the game stagnates in playerbase, which is definitely happening according to twitch. You guys that grew up with the hype around BroodWar and launch of SC2 will stick around sure, but SC ain't where to money is going. Have fun competing against like minded individuals.
Everyday I thank God I escaped from the Starcraft universe when I did. Saved so many hours of my life.
alpenrahm
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany629 Posts
April 15 2014 16:37 GMT
#142
its too sad ... i had to stop at 15 minutes. The devestation of a shattered dream is a harsh pill to swallow.
CanadianSC
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada53 Posts
April 15 2014 16:50 GMT
#143
not sure who he is but if he helped people out then good on him - and gl with future esports and non-esports things
Zerg is a hard race. -DRG
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 16:58:18
April 15 2014 16:57 GMT
#144
On April 16 2014 00:56 cameler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2014 04:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 14 2014 23:54 KelianQatar wrote:
Filter's tutorials were awesome. He seriously stopped me from only playing the campaign and got me to top silver. But such is the cycle of life... everything has a life cycle and I think we're seeing the end of SC's.

gl hf wp

no we're not.

Filter did do great stuff for the new people though.


I think he meant "death" as in it's not attractive to try and get good at the game therefore the game stagnates in playerbase, which is definitely happening according to twitch. You guys that grew up with the hype around BroodWar and launch of SC2 will stick around sure, but SC ain't where to money is going. Have fun competing against like minded individuals.

I don't know why it wouldn't be attractive to try and get good at the game. The game is still as difficult as it was at launch and the pro scene is better than ever in terms of skill level. Starcraft 2 is still pretty much the only kid on the block for people who like competitive RTS. Most progamers do not start out with the mindset "I want to become good at this game because I want to earn a lot of cash". Most of them play it because they discovered they could get really good at a game they have a blast playing.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 17:21:58
April 15 2014 17:21 GMT
#145
On April 16 2014 01:57 maartendq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 00:56 cameler wrote:
On April 15 2014 04:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 14 2014 23:54 KelianQatar wrote:
Filter's tutorials were awesome. He seriously stopped me from only playing the campaign and got me to top silver. But such is the cycle of life... everything has a life cycle and I think we're seeing the end of SC's.

gl hf wp

no we're not.

Filter did do great stuff for the new people though.


I think he meant "death" as in it's not attractive to try and get good at the game therefore the game stagnates in playerbase, which is definitely happening according to twitch. You guys that grew up with the hype around BroodWar and launch of SC2 will stick around sure, but SC ain't where to money is going. Have fun competing against like minded individuals.

I don't know why it wouldn't be attractive to try and get good at the game. The game is still as difficult as it was at launch and the pro scene is better than ever in terms of skill level. Starcraft 2 is still pretty much the only kid on the block for people who like competitive RTS. Most progamers do not start out with the mindset "I want to become good at this game because I want to earn a lot of cash". Most of them play it because they discovered they could get really good at a game they have a blast playing.


I do agree with you, but I think you shouldn't underestimate the amount of people that dream of going pro some day, whether they are in bronze or gm, even if they don't ever seriously think about doing it - it might still be in the back of their head while they play and dive into the world of SC2. Conciously or subconciously it can invigorate their playing experience.
Ake_Vader
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden58 Posts
April 15 2014 17:47 GMT
#146
I'm yet another terran who FilterSC taught how to make 50 SCV's, medivacs, a shitload of marines and upgrades by 10 minutes back in WoL. I think his guides gave a good foundation to build on.
Videos were brilliant for WoL (more so than hots) as you could basically follow the same 1 rax FE build for all three match-ups with very minor changes and constantly work on that macro.

I wish him GL with his future endeavours!
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 15 2014 18:08 GMT
#147
I appreciated Filter's contributions, but his parting comments were a little overboard, bordering on hypocritical. You don't get to have big gaps in your content and then turn around and blame the scene. You're the scene, brother, and maybe a few more people would be playing if you hadn't flaked out.

I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
awaller
Profile Joined February 2012
United States23 Posts
April 15 2014 18:13 GMT
#148
Filter
What Filter did in his videos instructed people how to improve your mechanics and understand the power of the macro game. He started with a mass marine BO, because it allow you to concentrate on building svc's, depot,and production.
In his earlier vidieos, you did not build add ons, no gas, no mirco, no tanks, this let you pay attention to the basics. Latter on he expanded his vdeos to included theses things, but only after you hit his benchmarks ( 50 svc's @ 10 min and 100 plus supply). This gave you a solid base to expand your BO , made it possible to copy stronger BO,that would allow you to face better players.People that just did his mass marine build, did not listen to what Filter was saying,marco is just one part of the game, and his BO helped people improved in that. Good luck to you Filter, you have done more than most in bringing a basic understanding of the game.
mvdunecats
Profile Joined December 2011
United States102 Posts
April 15 2014 18:53 GMT
#149
On April 16 2014 03:08 Jerubaal wrote:
I appreciated Filter's contributions, but his parting comments were a little overboard, bordering on hypocritical. You don't get to have big gaps in your content and then turn around and blame the scene. You're the scene, brother, and maybe a few more people would be playing if you hadn't flaked out.

The game itself needs to be good enough to retain players without community content doing the job instead. filter had a lot of passion for the game at some point, enough to get him to make the content that he did. But if the game wasn't good enough to hold onto someone like that, how is it going to retain the average player?
OGzan
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States289 Posts
April 15 2014 18:58 GMT
#150
If he maintained consistency he would have probably been fine. He has so many views on a lot of his videos he could've kept it going.....
(Zan) :: http://www.twitch.tv/byzantiumsc :: Terran Player currently teamless ::
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-15 23:01:54
April 15 2014 22:56 GMT
#151
On April 16 2014 03:53 mvdunecats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 03:08 Jerubaal wrote:
I appreciated Filter's contributions, but his parting comments were a little overboard, bordering on hypocritical. You don't get to have big gaps in your content and then turn around and blame the scene. You're the scene, brother, and maybe a few more people would be playing if you hadn't flaked out.

The game itself needs to be good enough to retain players without community content doing the job instead. filter had a lot of passion for the game at some point, enough to get him to make the content that he did. But if the game wasn't good enough to hold onto someone like that, how is it going to retain the average player?


So many things wrong with your post, but my main point is that it sounds hollow when you have major gaps in your content- and don't even bother to keep your followers informed- and then try to pass it off like it's the game's fault. Filter can do whatever the fuck he wants to do, but slinging dirt as he runs out the door was classless.

If he said, "sorry guys, I'm dealing with stuff and I'm just not interested anymore", it would be one thing. Instead he said "Sorry guys, Game sucks. Blizzard sucks. I'm out.".

You guys talk like it's just a given to everyone that SC2 is awful and dying and a waste of time. Don't you think that just might be hugely disrespectful to all the people that are still involved?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
April 15 2014 23:15 GMT
#152
On April 16 2014 07:56 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 03:53 mvdunecats wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:08 Jerubaal wrote:
I appreciated Filter's contributions, but his parting comments were a little overboard, bordering on hypocritical. You don't get to have big gaps in your content and then turn around and blame the scene. You're the scene, brother, and maybe a few more people would be playing if you hadn't flaked out.

The game itself needs to be good enough to retain players without community content doing the job instead. filter had a lot of passion for the game at some point, enough to get him to make the content that he did. But if the game wasn't good enough to hold onto someone like that, how is it going to retain the average player?


So many things wrong with your post, but my main point is that it sounds hollow when you have major gaps in your content- and don't even bother to keep your followers informed- and then try to pass it off like it's the game's fault. Filter can do whatever the fuck he wants to do, but slinging dirt as he runs out the door was classless.

If he said, "sorry guys, I'm dealing with stuff and I'm just not interested anymore", it would be one thing. Instead he said "Sorry guys, Game sucks. Blizzard sucks. I'm out.".

You guys talk like it's just a given to everyone that SC2 is awful and dying and a waste of time. Don't you think that just might be hugely disrespectful to all the people that are still involved?


You must of not been around during wol release. Despite having many tournaments and pro league going on people said it was a dead game. Heres how the bw chums dealt with it, we soldiered on. If you really think that it isnt dead or bad then keep tuning in, but twitch numbers dont lie besides blizz too busy huffing their own shit and deciding what micro is and isnt exciting to watch...like swarm hosts or colossi.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
April 15 2014 23:37 GMT
#153
On April 16 2014 08:15 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 07:56 Jerubaal wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:53 mvdunecats wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:08 Jerubaal wrote:
I appreciated Filter's contributions, but his parting comments were a little overboard, bordering on hypocritical. You don't get to have big gaps in your content and then turn around and blame the scene. You're the scene, brother, and maybe a few more people would be playing if you hadn't flaked out.

The game itself needs to be good enough to retain players without community content doing the job instead. filter had a lot of passion for the game at some point, enough to get him to make the content that he did. But if the game wasn't good enough to hold onto someone like that, how is it going to retain the average player?


So many things wrong with your post, but my main point is that it sounds hollow when you have major gaps in your content- and don't even bother to keep your followers informed- and then try to pass it off like it's the game's fault. Filter can do whatever the fuck he wants to do, but slinging dirt as he runs out the door was classless.

If he said, "sorry guys, I'm dealing with stuff and I'm just not interested anymore", it would be one thing. Instead he said "Sorry guys, Game sucks. Blizzard sucks. I'm out.".

You guys talk like it's just a given to everyone that SC2 is awful and dying and a waste of time. Don't you think that just might be hugely disrespectful to all the people that are still involved?


You must of not been around during wol release. Despite having many tournaments and pro league going on people said it was a dead game. Heres how the bw chums dealt with it, we soldiered on. If you really think that it isnt dead or bad then keep tuning in, but twitch numbers dont lie besides blizz too busy huffing their own shit and deciding what micro is and isnt exciting to watch...like swarm hosts or colossi.


I'm confused about your post: You say this sort of stupidity happened at the release of WoL but now you're happy that it's happening again? I was here during WoL release. I mostly remember a lot of BW partisans who pretended to be live and let live whenever the subject of BW dying came up but did their best to shit on SC2 every chance they got (and got a lot of mod leeway while doing it).

The only metric SC2 is doing poorly in is in the dick measuring contest with LoL and Dota. So, again, are you live and let live or a partisan dick waver?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
April 16 2014 00:02 GMT
#154
On April 16 2014 08:15 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 07:56 Jerubaal wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:53 mvdunecats wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:08 Jerubaal wrote:
I appreciated Filter's contributions, but his parting comments were a little overboard, bordering on hypocritical. You don't get to have big gaps in your content and then turn around and blame the scene. You're the scene, brother, and maybe a few more people would be playing if you hadn't flaked out.

The game itself needs to be good enough to retain players without community content doing the job instead. filter had a lot of passion for the game at some point, enough to get him to make the content that he did. But if the game wasn't good enough to hold onto someone like that, how is it going to retain the average player?


So many things wrong with your post, but my main point is that it sounds hollow when you have major gaps in your content- and don't even bother to keep your followers informed- and then try to pass it off like it's the game's fault. Filter can do whatever the fuck he wants to do, but slinging dirt as he runs out the door was classless.

If he said, "sorry guys, I'm dealing with stuff and I'm just not interested anymore", it would be one thing. Instead he said "Sorry guys, Game sucks. Blizzard sucks. I'm out.".

You guys talk like it's just a given to everyone that SC2 is awful and dying and a waste of time. Don't you think that just might be hugely disrespectful to all the people that are still involved?


You must of not been around during wol release. Despite having many tournaments and pro league going on people said it was a dead game. Heres how the bw chums dealt with it, we soldiered on. If you really think that it isnt dead or bad then keep tuning in, but twitch numbers dont lie besides blizz too busy huffing their own shit and deciding what micro is and isnt exciting to watch...like swarm hosts or colossi.


If you're honestly going to go by "Twitch viewers" then Brood War is as dead as a fucking doornail.

The number of people playing the game is going up, numbers don't lie.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
April 16 2014 00:05 GMT
#155
sry but if someone is leaving saying p needs no skill etc i am more pleased then sorry ...
i personaly never ever heared of him but from what i know saw and heared i am happy i didnt ...
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
Tresher
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany404 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 01:00:13
April 16 2014 00:59 GMT
#156
I see this thread is getting some attention again lately. Please use this thread only if you want to thank filter or want to wish him the best in the future. If you come here only to bash him, like the post above me, then keep it to yourself. Otherwise I see myself forced to ask a mod to look over it and clean it up or even close it. Keep it civil people.
Extreme Force
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
April 16 2014 02:08 GMT
#157
bashing filter simply cause he made a little balance whine on a farewell video? such a nice community here, no wonder the playerbase is ever shrinking. he made helpful macro videos for aspiring players and you had random toss players bash him down, sad indeed.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
April 16 2014 02:16 GMT
#158
On April 16 2014 09:02 Lunareste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 08:15 FromShouri wrote:
On April 16 2014 07:56 Jerubaal wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:53 mvdunecats wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:08 Jerubaal wrote:
I appreciated Filter's contributions, but his parting comments were a little overboard, bordering on hypocritical. You don't get to have big gaps in your content and then turn around and blame the scene. You're the scene, brother, and maybe a few more people would be playing if you hadn't flaked out.

The game itself needs to be good enough to retain players without community content doing the job instead. filter had a lot of passion for the game at some point, enough to get him to make the content that he did. But if the game wasn't good enough to hold onto someone like that, how is it going to retain the average player?


So many things wrong with your post, but my main point is that it sounds hollow when you have major gaps in your content- and don't even bother to keep your followers informed- and then try to pass it off like it's the game's fault. Filter can do whatever the fuck he wants to do, but slinging dirt as he runs out the door was classless.

If he said, "sorry guys, I'm dealing with stuff and I'm just not interested anymore", it would be one thing. Instead he said "Sorry guys, Game sucks. Blizzard sucks. I'm out.".

You guys talk like it's just a given to everyone that SC2 is awful and dying and a waste of time. Don't you think that just might be hugely disrespectful to all the people that are still involved?


You must of not been around during wol release. Despite having many tournaments and pro league going on people said it was a dead game. Heres how the bw chums dealt with it, we soldiered on. If you really think that it isnt dead or bad then keep tuning in, but twitch numbers dont lie besides blizz too busy huffing their own shit and deciding what micro is and isnt exciting to watch...like swarm hosts or colossi.


If you're honestly going to go by "Twitch viewers" then Brood War is as dead as a fucking doornail.

The number of people playing the game is going up, numbers don't lie.


Except that BW doesn't rely on Twitch.tv while SC2 does. BW relies primarily on Afreeca. While SC2's viewers on Twitch.tv is about 9k. BW streamers (Sea, Killer, Shuttle, Bisu, Pusan, Terror, Mong, PianO, etc.) usually streams together and whenever they do, each of them gets about 2k to 3k.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 05:21:03
April 16 2014 05:20 GMT
#159
On April 16 2014 08:37 Jerubaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 08:15 FromShouri wrote:
On April 16 2014 07:56 Jerubaal wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:53 mvdunecats wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:08 Jerubaal wrote:
I appreciated Filter's contributions, but his parting comments were a little overboard, bordering on hypocritical. You don't get to have big gaps in your content and then turn around and blame the scene. You're the scene, brother, and maybe a few more people would be playing if you hadn't flaked out.

The game itself needs to be good enough to retain players without community content doing the job instead. filter had a lot of passion for the game at some point, enough to get him to make the content that he did. But if the game wasn't good enough to hold onto someone like that, how is it going to retain the average player?


So many things wrong with your post, but my main point is that it sounds hollow when you have major gaps in your content- and don't even bother to keep your followers informed- and then try to pass it off like it's the game's fault. Filter can do whatever the fuck he wants to do, but slinging dirt as he runs out the door was classless.

If he said, "sorry guys, I'm dealing with stuff and I'm just not interested anymore", it would be one thing. Instead he said "Sorry guys, Game sucks. Blizzard sucks. I'm out.".

You guys talk like it's just a given to everyone that SC2 is awful and dying and a waste of time. Don't you think that just might be hugely disrespectful to all the people that are still involved?


You must of not been around during wol release. Despite having many tournaments and pro league going on people said it was a dead game. Heres how the bw chums dealt with it, we soldiered on. If you really think that it isnt dead or bad then keep tuning in, but twitch numbers dont lie besides blizz too busy huffing their own shit and deciding what micro is and isnt exciting to watch...like swarm hosts or colossi.


I'm confused about your post: You say this sort of stupidity happened at the release of WoL but now you're happy that it's happening again? I was here during WoL release. I mostly remember a lot of BW partisans who pretended to be live and let live whenever the subject of BW dying came up but did their best to shit on SC2 every chance they got (and got a lot of mod leeway while doing it).

The only metric SC2 is doing poorly in is in the dick measuring contest with LoL and Dota. So, again, are you live and let live or a partisan dick waver?


Im a lol I don't have to defend a video game as relevant kinda guy. Ive been playing SWTOR the past few months and that supposedly is a "dead game" too yet probably has more active players then a game like starcraft at most points, if not the entire day. Getting players to play 1-5 games a season doesn't show numbers are "going up". It really is quite simple, also twitch is "THE" platform for SC2, it was one of the games that made twitch a house hold name among gamers. BTW, heres Snipealot2s total viewer count versus GSL: 4,761,986 vs 6,938,409 . And that is just 1 Snipealot channel, he has 4-5. Clearly BW wasn't as dead as you thought even on a platform that wasn't "made" on it's name. And as someone else said, look at Afreeca numbers if you want more accurate viewership numbers.

http://www.gametrics.com/ also according to this at least in PC Bangs, SC2 still has made next to no head way in player numbers. According to SC2Ranks which isn't even that accurate, only 84,449 of people have played at least 1 match in Season 2. I just don't see the player growth you're talking about. That is not even as many people that were at release. All this shit said you tried to create drama were there was none, if you enjoy SC2 tune in, if not w/e.
Limited Edition, lets do some simple addition, $50 for a T-Shirt is just some ignorant bitch shit.
JohnChoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
1773 Posts
April 16 2014 05:37 GMT
#160
On April 16 2014 11:16 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 09:02 Lunareste wrote:
On April 16 2014 08:15 FromShouri wrote:
On April 16 2014 07:56 Jerubaal wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:53 mvdunecats wrote:
On April 16 2014 03:08 Jerubaal wrote:
I appreciated Filter's contributions, but his parting comments were a little overboard, bordering on hypocritical. You don't get to have big gaps in your content and then turn around and blame the scene. You're the scene, brother, and maybe a few more people would be playing if you hadn't flaked out.

The game itself needs to be good enough to retain players without community content doing the job instead. filter had a lot of passion for the game at some point, enough to get him to make the content that he did. But if the game wasn't good enough to hold onto someone like that, how is it going to retain the average player?


So many things wrong with your post, but my main point is that it sounds hollow when you have major gaps in your content- and don't even bother to keep your followers informed- and then try to pass it off like it's the game's fault. Filter can do whatever the fuck he wants to do, but slinging dirt as he runs out the door was classless.

If he said, "sorry guys, I'm dealing with stuff and I'm just not interested anymore", it would be one thing. Instead he said "Sorry guys, Game sucks. Blizzard sucks. I'm out.".

You guys talk like it's just a given to everyone that SC2 is awful and dying and a waste of time. Don't you think that just might be hugely disrespectful to all the people that are still involved?


You must of not been around during wol release. Despite having many tournaments and pro league going on people said it was a dead game. Heres how the bw chums dealt with it, we soldiered on. If you really think that it isnt dead or bad then keep tuning in, but twitch numbers dont lie besides blizz too busy huffing their own shit and deciding what micro is and isnt exciting to watch...like swarm hosts or colossi.


If you're honestly going to go by "Twitch viewers" then Brood War is as dead as a fucking doornail.

The number of people playing the game is going up, numbers don't lie.


Except that BW doesn't rely on Twitch.tv while SC2 does. BW relies primarily on Afreeca. While SC2's viewers on Twitch.tv is about 9k. BW streamers (Sea, Killer, Shuttle, Bisu, Pusan, Terror, Mong, PianO, etc.) usually streams together and whenever they do, each of them gets about 2k to 3k.

Yeah... unfortunately they dont each get 2~3k viewers..
also this thread is dumb. Thought it was about some dude retiring and all people are doing is shitting on him for having a bit of attitude and then arguing about dumb stuff ~_~ should just close threads like this lol
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