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Ovid
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
United Kingdom948 Posts
October 04 2014 21:13 GMT
#801
So now we need HerO Scarlett Pigbaby to lose for JD to be at blizzcon.
Also means he will play Hyun first, which should be good for JD even though Hyun is 2-1 up in series.
I will make Yogg Saron priest work...
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 04 2014 21:14 GMT
#802
INno is locked in and even Jaedong is very unlikely to get pushed out because of the way WCS AM bracket is set up.
SNSeigifried
Profile Joined April 2013
United States1640 Posts
October 04 2014 21:15 GMT
#803
No JD can play HyuN Bomber Polt or San and from what i see its prob gonna be bomber or polt since you need 1 of the 2 to make the finals so jd isn't out
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
October 04 2014 21:18 GMT
#804
On October 05 2014 06:15 SNSeigifried wrote:
No JD can play HyuN Bomber Polt or San and from what i see its prob gonna be bomber or polt since you need 1 of the 2 to make the finals so jd isn't out

~ 30.98 % chance to see Jaedong vs HyuN in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 20.15 % chance to see Jaedong vs Polt in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 11.87 % chance to see Jaedong vs Bomber in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 9.05 % chance to see Jaedong vs San in the first round of the WCS Finals.
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
October 04 2014 21:23 GMT
#805
--------UPDATE Saturday, Oct 04 9:25pm GMT (GMT+00:00) WCS EU Playoffs Day 1 Results!
Here's the current players with over 0% Blizzcon Chances.
  1. kr HyuN (ROCCAT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 6050
  2. kr Zest (KT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5800
  3. kr MC, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5500
  4. kr Polt (CM Storm), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5375
  5. kr San (Yoe), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5375
  6. kr TaeJa (Liquid), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5100
  7. kr Bomber, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5050
  8. kr StarDust (mYinsanity), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 4800
  9. kr soO (SKT T1), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 3650
  10. kr MMA (Acer), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 3525
  11. kr herO (CJ Entus), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 3475
  12. kr jjakji (mYinsanity), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 3475
  13. kr Classic (SKT T1), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 3325
  14. kr Life (StarTale), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 3250
  15. kr INnoVation (SKT T1), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 3225
  16. kr Jaedong (EG), is at ~ 72.05 %, Min WCS Points: 3200
  17. ca Scarlett (Acer), is at ~ 17.08 %, Min WCS Points: 1950
  18. kr Pigbaby, is at ~ 6.06 %, Min WCS Points: 2500
  19. kr HerO (Liquid), is at ~ 4.81 %, Min WCS Points: 2250


Biggest Winners
kr INnoVation went up by ~ 48.16 %, going from ~ 51.84 % to ~ 100 %
kr Jaedong went up by ~ 3.27 %, going from ~ 68.79 % to ~ 72.05 %

Biggest Losers
kr ForGG went down by ~ 18.63 %, going from ~ 18.63 % to ~ 0 %
no Snute went down by ~ 13.55 %, going from ~ 13.55 % to ~ 0 %
dk Bunny went down by ~ 10.22 %, going from ~ 10.22 % to ~ 0 %
kr Golden went down by ~ 2.26 %, going from ~ 2.26 % to ~ 0 %
kr Heart went down by ~ 2.22 %, going from ~ 2.22 % to ~ 0 %
kr YoDa went down by ~ 2.01 %, going from ~ 2.01 % to ~ 0 %
kr Pigbaby went down by ~ 1.13 %, going from ~ 7.2 % to ~ 6.06 %
ca HuK went down by ~ 1.04 %, going from ~ 1.04 % to ~ 0 %
ca Scarlett went down by ~ 0.36 %, going from ~ 17.43 % to ~ 17.08 %

WCS Point Cutoffs
~ 0 % of the time 3,175 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 72.05 % of the time 3,200 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon
~ 100 % of the time 3,225 points is enough to qualify for Blizzcon

Foreigner Hope
Scarlett ~ 17.08 % chance to be the only foreigner, ~ 17.08 % chance overall.
~ 0 % chances for 2+ foreigners to qualify for Blizzcon!

Likely Seeds
StarDust has a ~ 100 % chance to get the #8 seed at Blizzcon.
Life has a ~ 72.05 % chance to get the #14 seed at Blizzcon.
INnoVation has a ~ 72.05 % chance to get the #15 seed at Blizzcon.
Jaedong has a ~ 72.05 % chance to get the #16 seed at Blizzcon.
Classic has a ~ 72.05 % chance to get the #13 seed at Blizzcon.
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TaeJa has a ~ 64.37 % chance to get the #7 seed at Blizzcon.
Zest has a ~ 51.94 % chance to get the #3 seed at Blizzcon.
HyuN has a ~ 51.04 % chance to get the #1 seed at Blizzcon.
soO has a ~ 50.48 % chance to get the #10 seed at Blizzcon.
jjakji has a ~ 50.04 % chance to get the #12 seed at Blizzcon.
herO has a ~ 49.96 % chance to get the #12 seed at Blizzcon.
MMA has a ~ 49.11 % chance to get the #9 seed at Blizzcon.
MMA has a ~ 45.52 % chance to get the #10 seed at Blizzcon.
herO has a ~ 44.6 % chance to get the #11 seed at Blizzcon.
jjakji has a ~ 44.53 % chance to get the #11 seed at Blizzcon.
soO has a ~ 44.01 % chance to get the #9 seed at Blizzcon.
MC has a ~ 39.59 % chance to get the #5 seed at Blizzcon.
MC has a ~ 38.85 % chance to get the #4 seed at Blizzcon.
HyuN has a ~ 38.62 % chance to get the #2 seed at Blizzcon.
Bomber has a ~ 35.63 % chance to get the #7 seed at Blizzcon.
TaeJa has a ~ 35.63 % chance to get the #6 seed at Blizzcon.
Zest has a ~ 32.73 % chance to get the #2 seed at Blizzcon.
San has a ~ 31.73 % chance to get the #5 seed at Blizzcon.
Life has a ~ 27.95 % chance to get the #15 seed at Blizzcon.
INnoVation has a ~ 27.95 % chance to get the #16 seed at Blizzcon.
Classic has a ~ 27.95 % chance to get the #14 seed at Blizzcon.
Bomber has a ~ 27.94 % chance to get the #6 seed at Blizzcon.
Polt has a ~ 23.27 % chance to get the #5 seed at Blizzcon.
Polt has a ~ 20.13 % chance to get the #1 seed at Blizzcon.
Polt has a ~ 19.57 % chance to get the #4 seed at Blizzcon.
San has a ~ 17.42 % chance to get the #4 seed at Blizzcon.
Scarlett has a ~ 17.08 % chance to get the #13 seed at Blizzcon.
San has a ~ 16.95 % chance to get the #1 seed at Blizzcon.
Polt has a ~ 15.7 % chance to get the #3 seed at Blizzcon.
Zest has a ~ 15.33 % chance to get the #4 seed at Blizzcon.
San has a ~ 14.97 % chance to get the #6 seed at Blizzcon.
Bomber has a ~ 11.87 % chance to get the #1 seed at Blizzcon.
San has a ~ 11.25 % chance to get the #2 seed at Blizzcon.
MC has a ~ 11.22 % chance to get the #6 seed at Blizzcon.
Polt has a ~ 11.08 % chance to get the #2 seed at Blizzcon.
MC has a ~ 10.34 % chance to get the #3 seed at Blizzcon.
HyuN has a ~ 10.33 % chance to get the #3 seed at Blizzcon.
Polt has a ~ 10.24 % chance to get the #6 seed at Blizzcon.
Bomber has a ~ 8.82 % chance to get the #4 seed at Blizzcon.
San has a ~ 7.68 % chance to get the #3 seed at Blizzcon.
Bomber has a ~ 6.32 % chance to get the #2 seed at Blizzcon.
soO has a ~ 5.51 % chance to get the #11 seed at Blizzcon.
herO has a ~ 5.44 % chance to get the #13 seed at Blizzcon.
jjakji has a ~ 5.43 % chance to get the #13 seed at Blizzcon.
Bomber has a ~ 5.42 % chance to get the #5 seed at Blizzcon.
MMA has a ~ 5.36 % chance to get the #11 seed at Blizzcon.
Pigbaby has a ~ 4.51 % chance to get the #9 seed at Blizzcon.
Bomber has a ~ 4.01 % chance to get the #3 seed at Blizzcon.
HerO has a ~ 2.44 % chance to get the #10 seed at Blizzcon.
HerO has a ~ 2.37 % chance to get the #9 seed at Blizzcon.
Pigbaby has a ~ 1.56 % chance to get the #10 seed at Blizzcon.


Likely First Round Matches at WCS Finals
~ 58.21 % chance to see Life vs Zest in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 50.76 % chance to see HyuN vs INnoVation in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 49.11 % chance to see MMA vs StarDust in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 44.01 % chance to see soO vs StarDust in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 36.57 % chance to see TaeJa vs soO in the first round of the WCS Finals.
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~ 34.29 % chance to see TaeJa vs MMA in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 32.9 % chance to see MC vs Classic in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 31.01 % chance to see HyuN vs Jaedong in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 28.11 % chance to see MC vs herO in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 28.1 % chance to see jjakji vs MC in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 27.48 % chance to see San vs herO in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 24.01 % chance to see Classic vs Zest in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 21.51 % chance to see jjakji vs San in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 21.37 % chance to see Polt vs jjakji in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 20.13 % chance to see Polt vs Jaedong in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 19.87 % chance to see Polt vs Classic in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 19.42 % chance to see Bomber vs soO in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 19.16 % chance to see INnoVation vs San in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 18.24 % chance to see Life vs HyuN in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 16.6 % chance to see Bomber vs MMA in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 16.34 % chance to see INnoVation vs Zest in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 16.33 % chance to see San vs Classic in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 15.32 % chance to see Polt vs herO in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 15.24 % chance to see Bomber vs herO in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 15.2 % chance to see Bomber vs jjakji in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 13.85 % chance to see TaeJa vs herO in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 13.82 % chance to see TaeJa vs jjakji in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 12.71 % chance to see Life vs Polt in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 11.87 % chance to see Bomber vs Jaedong in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 9.04 % chance to see San vs Jaedong in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 7.43 % chance to see Polt vs INnoVation in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 6.9 % chance to see Bomber vs Classic in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 6.65 % chance to see Scarlett vs MC in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 6.32 % chance to see Bomber vs INnoVation in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 4.51 % chance to see StarDust vs Pigbaby in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 4.25 % chance to see Life vs MC in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 3.74 % chance to see Life vs San in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 3.17 % chance to see Polt vs Scarlett in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 3.07 % chance to see Bomber vs Scarlett in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 2.85 % chance to see Life vs Bomber in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 2.74 % chance to see Scarlett vs San in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 2.37 % chance to see HerO vs StarDust in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 1.56 % chance to see Bomber vs Pigbaby in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 1.48 % chance to see TaeJa vs HerO in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 1.44 % chance to see Scarlett vs Zest in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 0.96 % chance to see HerO vs Bomber in the first round of the WCS Finals.


WCS AM Winning Gains
kr HerO would gain ~ 95.19 % if they win, with a ~ 4.81 % chance to win, going from ~ 4.81 % to ~ 100 %
kr Pigbaby would gain ~ 93.94 % if they win, with a ~ 6.06 % chance to win, going from ~ 6.06 % to ~ 100 %
ca Scarlett would gain ~ 82.94 % if they win, with a ~ 17.06 % chance to win, going from ~ 17.06 % to ~ 100 %

These 3 players must win and will not make it with a 2nd place or lower. Any of these 3 players winning would knock Jaedong out. Innovation is secured.


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OdinnTV
Profile Joined January 2014
Canada14 Posts
October 04 2014 21:25 GMT
#806
Jaedong's odds are pretty good, at this point. Polt/Bomber/HyuN are all still in the Ro8, and respectively probably the three favourites to take S3 champion.
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 04 2014 21:31 GMT
#807
On October 05 2014 06:25 OdinnTV wrote:
Jaedong's odds are pretty good, at this point. Polt/Bomber/HyuN are all still in the Ro8, and respectively probably the three favourites to take S3 champion.

I wanna see Polt win. :D
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
October 04 2014 21:32 GMT
#808
As much as Jaedong's year has been pretty bad and he probably doesn't "deserve" to be at BlizzCon, a fourth Zerg wouldn't be the worst thing to happen.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 04 2014 21:37 GMT
#809
On October 05 2014 06:32 Boucot wrote:
As much as Jaedong's year has been pretty bad and he probably doesn't "deserve" to be at BlizzCon, a fourth Zerg wouldn't be the worst thing to happen.

I agree. 2014 has not been the year of the Dong.
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[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24238 Posts
October 04 2014 21:41 GMT
#810
On October 05 2014 06:32 Boucot wrote:
As much as Jaedong's year has been pretty bad and he probably doesn't "deserve" to be at BlizzCon, a fourth Zerg wouldn't be the worst thing to happen.


I agree. A 6-6-4 distribution would be extremely good given how bad the year began. So let's hope Pigbaby and HerO can't win WCS AM ^^
Silvana
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
3713 Posts
October 04 2014 21:47 GMT
#811
Pigbaby needs to win WCS pls I don't want to see Zest vs Inno on the first round! They need to meet in the finals (is that even possible bracket-like?)
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 04 2014 21:51 GMT
#812
On October 05 2014 06:47 Silvana wrote:
Pigbaby needs to win WCS pls I don't want to see Zest vs Inno on the first round! They need to meet in the finals (is that even possible bracket-like?)

I don't think so, if we're assuming that it's 1 v 16, 2 v 15 ...
because then Innovation would have to be in the top 8, and there aren't enough WCS points for that to actually happen.
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movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 21:56:43
October 04 2014 21:52 GMT
#813
On October 05 2014 06:47 Silvana wrote:
Pigbaby needs to win WCS pls I don't want to see Zest vs Inno on the first round! They need to meet in the finals (is that even possible bracket-like?)


I'd rather see Scarlett win WCS AM. But to do that she'll need to beat heart whom she admits that she's not favoured against. I would be a great story to have a foreigner come through at the last moment. Let's hope her old ZvT skills comes back to give her a chance against Heart, and like you said it would prevent Zest from matching up against Innovation in the ro16
IndoKoreanMuslim
Profile Joined November 2013
United States100 Posts
October 04 2014 21:54 GMT
#814
On October 05 2014 06:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 06:47 Silvana wrote:
Pigbaby needs to win WCS pls I don't want to see Zest vs Inno on the first round! They need to meet in the finals (is that even possible bracket-like?)

I don't think so, if we're assuming that it's 1 v 16, 2 v 15 ...
because then Innovation would have to be in the top 8, and there aren't enough WCS points for that to actually happen.

If Pigbaby does win, it moves INno into 16th and hopefully Zest stays at second. Then they will be on opposite sides of the bracket for sure, making it a possibility.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 04 2014 21:54 GMT
#815
On October 05 2014 06:52 movac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 06:47 Silvana wrote:
Pigbaby needs to win WCS pls I don't want to see Zest vs Inno on the first round! They need to meet in the finals (is that even possible bracket-like?)


I'd rather see Scarlett win WCS AM. But to do that she'll need to beat heart whom she admits that she's not favoured against. I would be a great story to have a foreigner come through at the last moment. Let's hope her old ZvT skills comes back to give her a chance against Heart.

Sadly, she'd then have to beat her way through the rest of the bracket. Just beating Heart doesn't make you a champion.

For testimony, ask Bomber.
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movac
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada494 Posts
October 04 2014 22:04 GMT
#816
On October 05 2014 06:54 IntoTheheart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 06:52 movac wrote:
On October 05 2014 06:47 Silvana wrote:
Pigbaby needs to win WCS pls I don't want to see Zest vs Inno on the first round! They need to meet in the finals (is that even possible bracket-like?)


I'd rather see Scarlett win WCS AM. But to do that she'll need to beat heart whom she admits that she's not favoured against. I would be a great story to have a foreigner come through at the last moment. Let's hope her old ZvT skills comes back to give her a chance against Heart.

Sadly, she'd then have to beat her way through the rest of the bracket. Just beating Heart doesn't make you a champion.

For testimony, ask Bomber.


well if she brushes up her ZvT, and then can beat both Heart and Hyun, and then on the other side of the bracket it's either Bomber or Polt that comes up, it's possible since she's beaten the both of them in the past.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17727 Posts
October 04 2014 22:05 GMT
#817
On October 05 2014 06:54 IndoKoreanMuslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 06:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 05 2014 06:47 Silvana wrote:
Pigbaby needs to win WCS pls I don't want to see Zest vs Inno on the first round! They need to meet in the finals (is that even possible bracket-like?)

I don't think so, if we're assuming that it's 1 v 16, 2 v 15 ...
because then Innovation would have to be in the top 8, and there aren't enough WCS points for that to actually happen.

If Pigbaby does win, it moves INno into 16th and hopefully Zest stays at second. Then they will be on opposite sides of the bracket for sure, making it a possibility.

Innovation's possible first round matches

~ 50.76 % chance to see INnoVation vs HyuN in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 19.16 % chance to see INnoVation vs San in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 16.34 % chance to see INnoVation vs Zest in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 7.42 % chance to see INnoVation vs Polt in the first round of the WCS Finals.
~ 6.32 % chance to see INnoVation vs Bomber in the first round of the WCS Finals.

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Koerage
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-04 22:18:10
October 04 2014 22:13 GMT
#818
On October 05 2014 06:54 IndoKoreanMuslim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 06:51 IntoTheheart wrote:
On October 05 2014 06:47 Silvana wrote:
Pigbaby needs to win WCS pls I don't want to see Zest vs Inno on the first round! They need to meet in the finals (is that even possible bracket-like?)

I don't think so, if we're assuming that it's 1 v 16, 2 v 15 ...
because then Innovation would have to be in the top 8, and there aren't enough WCS points for that to actually happen.

If Pigbaby does win, it moves INno into 16th and hopefully Zest stays at second. Then they will be on opposite sides of the bracket for sure, making it a possibility.


if polt or bomber wins Zest falls to 3rd; probably means a semifinals Zest-Inno is possible. Not sure if both can overtake Zest as i didnt check brackets and stuff, but assuming they can Zest goes down to 4th which should setup for a finals Zest-Inno (assuming here that semi's is 1vs4 2vs3)
edit: Zest has ~52% chance to get the nr3 seed and 33% for 2nd, the remainder is 4th. Inno can only get 15th or 16th so unless Zest is 2nd AND inno is 15th (which means JD got 16th) they shall not meet untill semi's/final. Probably can work out when Zest isn't the 2nd seed but i'm tired so i'd probably make mistakes
Torrefy
Profile Joined August 2014
41 Posts
October 04 2014 23:11 GMT
#819
It's kind of interesting to look at the list of players from last year's blizzcon who either did or didn't qualify again this year.

Qualified:
MC
Polt
Taeja
Bomber
MMA
INnoVation

Might Qualify:
Jaedong
HerO

Didn't Qualify:
Mvp
aLive
Maru
Naniwa
duckdeok
Dear
Soulkey
sOs
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pure.Wasted
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada4701 Posts
October 04 2014 23:19 GMT
#820
On October 05 2014 08:11 Torrefy wrote:
It's kind of interesting to look at the list of players from last year's blizzcon who either did or didn't qualify again this year.

Qualified:
MC
Polt
Taeja
Bomber
MMA
INnoVation

Might Qualify:
Jaedong
HerO

Didn't Qualify:
Mvp
aLive
Maru
Naniwa
duckdeok
Dear
Soulkey
sOs


Lots of the same Terrans are back, while Protoss and Zerg are rotating a lot more. Also, the KR heavy hitters (Maru, Dear, Soulkey, sOs) who all have a legit chance of winning got screwed by WCS. The only returning KR player is Inno, and that's by the skin of his teeth (4-2 in the last possible final of the year). MC, Polt, Taeja, Bomber, and MMA are all NA/EU WCS farmers.
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