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On September 22 2014 05:44 Die4Ever wrote:Hmmm it might not matter what I do with it since it's unlikely there will be another #1 vs #2 match anyways. I could give it back to sOs who was the previous holder. How does the Unofficial World Champion handle retirements? I'll probably just leave it with Effort for this year. Hopefully next year the headbands are more successful, since I'll be doing 4 instead of just 2 there should be more movement of the #1.
UWC has never had a retirement (though they did have a Bear). The closest thing to an official comment on the issue is "if they retire, they will officially be the first SC2 bonjwa."
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so Cure cant make it anymore right? unless there's gonna be some other tournament that gives WCS points
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On September 22 2014 17:33 Koerage wrote:
so Cure cant make it anymore right? unless there's gonna be some other tournament that gives WCS points
Correct, unless he goes to Dreamhack Stockholm he can't. It's also likely that his RO4 match vs INnoVation will be moved to Friday to accommodate soO going to Dreamhack.
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On September 22 2014 17:45 AWalker9 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2014 17:33 Koerage wrote:
so Cure cant make it anymore right? unless there's gonna be some other tournament that gives WCS points Correct, unless he goes to Dreamhack Stockholm he can't. It's also likely that his RO4 match vs INnoVation will be moved to Friday to accommodate soO going to Dreamhack.
And in fact it has, according to Liquipedia anyway.
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With MMA's win, he is now very close to securing his spot, even if he loses every match from here he would still be at about 76.5% Blizzcon chances.
Here's the top 25 by chances
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  HyuN (ROCCAT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 6050
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 Zest (KT), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5800
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 Polt (CM Storm), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5250
- MC, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5200
- San (Yoe), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5125
- TaeJa (Liquid), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5100
- Bomber, is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 5050
- StarDust (mYinsanity), is at ~ 100 %, Min WCS Points: 4700
- jjakji (mYinsanity), is at ~ 99.99 %, Min WCS Points: 3350
- Classic (SKT T1), is at ~ 99.7 %, Min WCS Points: 3200
- Life (StarTale), is at ~ 98.25 %, Min WCS Points: 3125
- herO (CJ Entus), is at ~ 97.17 %, Min WCS Points: 3100
- MMA (Acer), is at ~ 93.63 %, Min WCS Points: 3025
- Jaedong (EG), is at ~ 70.28 %, Min WCS Points: 2950
- soO (SKT T1), is at ~ 66.88 %, Min WCS Points: 2900
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 Snute (Liquid), is at ~ 57.97 %, Min WCS Points: 2925
- INnoVation, is at ~ 30.62 %, Min WCS Points: 1975
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 Scarlett (Acer), is at ~ 17.32 %, Min WCS Points: 1950
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 Bunny (Liquid), is at ~ 12.67 %, Min WCS Points: 2075
- YoDa (TCM), is at ~ 12.43 %, Min WCS Points: 1425
- ForGG (Millenium), is at ~ 11.12 %, Min WCS Points: 1675
- Pigbaby, is at ~ 9.44 %, Min WCS Points: 2500
- HerO (Liquid), is at ~ 7.6 %, Min WCS Points: 2250
- Heart (Axiom), is at ~ 5.96 %, Min WCS Points: 1550
- Golden (Ai), is at ~ 5.79 %, Min WCS Points: 1600
Biggest winners and losers from WCS EU group C (I also lowered the placeholder from 5% down to 1%, which makes a very small difference)
Biggest Winners
MMA went up by ~ 26.19 %, going from ~ 67.44 % to ~ 93.63 %
Golden went up by ~ 2.41 %, going from ~ 3.39 % to ~ 5.79 %
Biggest Losers
Snute went down by ~ 5.53 %, going from ~ 63.5 % to ~ 57.97 %
Jaedong went down by ~ 5.08 %, going from ~ 75.36 % to ~ 70.28 %
soO went down by ~ 4.05 %, going from ~ 70.93 % to ~ 66.88 %
sOs went down by ~ 3.72 %, going from ~ 3.78 % to ~ 0.06 %
 Welmu went down by ~ 2.64 %, going from ~ 2.64 % to ~ 0.01 %
YoDa went down by ~ 1.46 %, going from ~ 13.89 % to ~ 12.43 %
+ Show Spoiler [More] + MaNa went down by ~ 1.4 %, going from ~ 1.4 % to ~ 0 % Bunny went down by ~ 1.33 %, going from ~ 14.01 % to ~ 12.67 % Pigbaby went down by ~ 0.87 %, going from ~ 10.31 % to ~ 9.44 % herO went down by ~ 0.69 %, going from ~ 97.86 % to ~ 97.17 % Life went down by ~ 0.43 %, going from ~ 98.68 % to ~ 98.25 % HerO went down by ~ 0.33 %, going from ~ 7.94 % to ~ 7.6 % Heart went down by ~ 0.33 %, going from ~ 6.29 % to ~ 5.96 % HuK went down by ~ 0.31 %, going from ~ 3.11 % to ~ 2.8 % ForGG went down by ~ 0.16 %, going from ~ 11.28 % to ~ 11.12 %
Also there's a big GSL match tonight!
Starts in
This match is important for soO!
Zest, soO in GSL S3 Code S
Zest has the #2 headband!
This is a match for the #2 headband!
- Zest is at ~ 100 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 65.49 % of the time Zest wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 100 %.
~ 34.51 % of the time Zest loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 100 %.
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- soO is at ~ 66.88 % chances to qualify for Blizzcon 2014
~ 34.51 % of the time soO wins this match and their Blizzcon chances go up to ~ 98.45 %.
~ 65.49 % of the time soO loses this match and their Blizzcon chances go down to ~ 50.25 %.
And this match affects some other players too (on the GSL page I used the event filters "single upcoming wins zest soo")
-If soO wins
This would change Snute's Blizzcon chances from ~ 57.97 % to ~ 46.8 %
This would change Jaedong's Blizzcon chances from ~ 70.28 % to ~ 60.36 %
This would change MMA's Blizzcon chances from ~ 93.63 % to ~ 90.6 %
This would change herO's Blizzcon chances from ~ 97.17 % to ~ 94.98 %
This would change INnoVation's Blizzcon chances from ~ 30.62 % to ~ 32.66 %
-If Zest wins
This would change Snute's Blizzcon chances from ~ 57.97 % to ~ 63.86 %
This would change Jaedong's Blizzcon chances from ~ 70.28 % to ~ 75.5 %
This would change MMA's Blizzcon chances from ~ 93.63 % to ~ 95.23 %
This would change herO's Blizzcon chances from ~ 97.17 % to ~ 98.32 %
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wait is there a possibility Jaedong and Scarlett tie for16th spot if Scarlett gets second she get 1000 points takes her to 2950 same as Jaedong.
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On September 24 2014 08:16 William paradise wrote:
wait is there a possibility Jaedong and Scarlett tie for16th spot if Scarlett gets second she get 1000 points takes her to 2950 same as Jaedong.
No, Scarlett already has some points for finishing at least top 8, which are factored in.
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On September 24 2014 08:23 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 08:16 William paradise wrote:
wait is there a possibility Jaedong and Scarlett tie for16th spot if Scarlett gets second she get 1000 points takes her to 2950 same as Jaedong. No, Scarlett already has some points for finishing at least top 8, which are factored in.
Uh? so she has more then 1950? how does that work? just wondering im not all that up to date on how the points work.
and if she does have more doesn't that mean all she has to do is get second and she's in right?
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On September 24 2014 08:26 William paradise wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 08:23 The_Templar wrote:On September 24 2014 08:16 William paradise wrote:
wait is there a possibility Jaedong and Scarlett tie for16th spot if Scarlett gets second she get 1000 points takes her to 2950 same as Jaedong. No, Scarlett already has some points for finishing at least top 8, which are factored in. Uh? so she has more then 1950? how does that work? just wondering im not all that up to date on how the points work.
No. If she loses in the RO8 of WCS and gets no other points, she has 1950 points, including the 500 from top 8 of WCS America. If she reaches the finals and loses she gets 1000 total points from WCS America, which is 500 more than her current minimum, for 2450 points.
The 1950 listed on the site are the minimum points that Scarlett could possibly have at the end of the year.
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On September 24 2014 08:29 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 08:26 William paradise wrote:On September 24 2014 08:23 The_Templar wrote:On September 24 2014 08:16 William paradise wrote:
wait is there a possibility Jaedong and Scarlett tie for16th spot if Scarlett gets second she get 1000 points takes her to 2950 same as Jaedong. No, Scarlett already has some points for finishing at least top 8, which are factored in. Uh? so she has more then 1950? how does that work? just wondering im not all that up to date on how the points work. No. If she loses in the RO8 of WCS and gets no other points, she has 1950 points, including the 500 from top 8 of WCS America. If she reaches the finals and loses she gets 1000 total points from WCS America, which is 500 more than her current minimum, for 2450 points. The 1950 listed on the site are the minimum points that Scarlett could possibly have at the end of the year.
ok cool thanks for answering (even though you hate on Scarlett) 
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On September 24 2014 08:34 William paradise wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 08:29 The_Templar wrote:On September 24 2014 08:26 William paradise wrote:On September 24 2014 08:23 The_Templar wrote:On September 24 2014 08:16 William paradise wrote:
wait is there a possibility Jaedong and Scarlett tie for16th spot if Scarlett gets second she get 1000 points takes her to 2950 same as Jaedong. No, Scarlett already has some points for finishing at least top 8, which are factored in. Uh? so she has more then 1950? how does that work? just wondering im not all that up to date on how the points work. No. If she loses in the RO8 of WCS and gets no other points, she has 1950 points, including the 500 from top 8 of WCS America. If she reaches the finals and loses she gets 1000 total points from WCS America, which is 500 more than her current minimum, for 2450 points. The 1950 listed on the site are the minimum points that Scarlett could possibly have at the end of the year. ok cool thanks for answering (even though you hate on Scarlett)
No problem, and I suspect you don't care that I hate Scarlett 
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ok cool thanks for answering (even though you hate on Scarlett)
No problem, and I suspect you don't care that I hate Scarlett
well i didn't say you hated her, but yea i don't really care if you like her or not. was just making a joke obviously not funny. but thanks again for the help really didn't understand the points system.
edit: ok i screwed that all up was just trying to get those two last quotes my bad.
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so far this is just the top 16 names moving around. what is it going to take to get someone knocked of the top 16?
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If Innovation wins WCS KR or if Pigbaby wins WCS AM, he'll knock out either Jeadong or Snute depending on their performance at stockholm.
If Pigbaby finishes 2nd place at WCS AM and either Snute or Jaedong gets no points out of stockholm, the one that get's no points will fall out.
If any of HerO, Bunny, Scarlet, ForGG, Golden, and Heart, wins their respective region, that's enough to get over 3000 points and pass both Jaedong and Snute's current standing.
If Huk wins WCS AM, he'll tie JD at 2950
If Yoda wins WCS EU he'll tie Snute at 2925, then his appearance at blizzcon will depend on Snute not making ro16 at stockholm, innovation not winning GSL and beating Snute at a tie breaker.
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I was really surprised that the last results in the thread are not post soO-Zest (took me while to find that out, because they did not make sense the other way). Doesn't matte though, one can just readi the right what-if. soO has it now soo easy.
Another thing to note: Snute needs to beat Jeadong in points from DH to keep the chance to have more then one foreigner (courtesy of Scarlett winning WCS).
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On September 25 2014 04:43 opisska wrote:
I was really surprised that the last results in the thread are not post soO-Zest (took me while to find that out, because they did not make sense the other way). Doesn't matte though, one can just readi the right what-if. soO has it now soo easy.
Another thing to note: Snute needs to beat Jeadong in points from DH to keep the chance to have more then one foreigner (courtesy of Scarlett winning WCS).
The website is updated much more often http://sc2.4ever.tv/
I will be making another post in this thread to preview DreamHack Stockholm probably tomorrow night.
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On September 25 2014 04:43 opisska wrote:
Another thing to note: Snute needs to beat Jeadong in points from DH to keep the chance to have more then one foreigner (courtesy of Scarlett winning WCS).
Bunny's got this.
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Is there a chance that Snute, Scarlett and Bunny could all make it?
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On September 25 2014 05:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Is there a chance that Snute, Scarlett and Bunny could all make it?
technically yes lol
~ 0.49 % chance of 3+ foreigners
~ 0.01 % chance of 4+ foreigners
~ 0 % chance of 5+ foreigners
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On September 25 2014 05:13 Die4Ever wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 05:09 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Is there a chance that Snute, Scarlett and Bunny could all make it? technically yes lol ~ 0.49 % chance of 3+ foreigners ~ 0.01 % chance of 4+ foreigners ~ 0 % chance of 5+ foreigners
3 foreigners: Scarlett wins WCS AM, Bunny wins WCS EU, Snute does really well at Dreamhack.
4 foreigners: That, and Dayshi also does really well at Dreamhack as well as winning a placement tournament.
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