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On November 23 2013 03:35 chairmobile wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 02:40 StarStruck wrote:On November 23 2013 01:53 Guileful wrote:
It's just he's not entertaining to watch and low on fans, even after WCS low on fans? Were you expecting for him to get as many fans as jaedong has over the course of his entire career in only a few tournaments and his offerings in PL? I don't think so. The reaction was the same for when soulkey lost to dear. you guys don't like protoss we get it but you said the same shit about a lot of other protoss players while they did there thing which was winning. In terms of entertainment and the current state of the game. There aren't that many players as entertaining as this guy. He delivers the goods. . Stop trying to generalize the community as just hating protoss. Nobody hates sOs - he's just not very impressive in his play compared to the rest of blizzcon. My reaction to soulkey being beaten by dear was, "oh well, dear played better". My reaction to sOs - JD was "fucking really man? _sOs_ is the global champion after that shit final?"
first off, how is he not very impressive in his play when he absolutely annihilated everyone he played? All of them not good, but pretty much great players.
that "shit" final was an absolute stompage only dampened by the fact that he got surprised in the game he lost
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Dear fought valiantly, Dear fought nobly, Dear fought bravely. And Dear died lost.
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I'm a huge fan of Jaedong but I don't mind sOs winning.
With what was said after the finals Incontrol telling everyone what sOs said backstage (if he wins Blizzcon, it's something he is going to tell his children) and also his answer regarding his win (about the value of the trophy and how it's worth more than other trophies, which was a bit funny but I might of understood it wrong), and how he acted, it was nice.
I do feel really bad for Jaedong though.
With Jaedong, I think he's shown to be consistent enough that if not now, definitely later. That's one of the reasons why I don't mind that sOs won.
Another thing, I thought it was incredible that Jaedong made it to the finals. I mean, he could have not made it to the finals and when I saw that he did made it to the finals, I was glad.
Making it into five finals is an incredible feat. It probably makes him the most consistent player of 2013 (Jaedong is one of the few players from the start and end of 2013 to consistently get far in almost every tournament he has played in) , and from that I'm optimistic for Jaedong in 2014.
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4- 0 at RBBG thus far for sOs - Hyun + MC both fell to his blades with relative ease - Scarlett will be next...
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chairmobile you are caught in your closeminded view of your own opinion, projecting it to the world, and telling your opinion is "the true opinion"...
Yes it is actually. For you.
All those players you sum up are all great to watch, but all 90% in the same way.
Good macro, good micro, good multitasking.
All those players do that. about all pros rely on those treats
You forget the fact its RTS genre made after real time "STRATEGY"
sOs is by far the most strategic player in the whole active SC2 community, whether you like it or not, this is just the truth.
All his sick mindgames you put off as cheese. Well trust me, when u go 10 canon rushes against jaedong being the silver player u are (presumable since u know how it works) you will loose 10 out of 10.
His art is that he broke jaedongs mind and swept the pieces off the table into the trashbin. That is his playstyle, a style very few players can employ. That is why he is a great player.
And u clearly havent seen his games vs bomber or hero, who he also outplayed in macro games.
Now be nice and quiet or go whine on the "jeadong is my hero" thread and stop acting troll on the sOs thread.
Thanks
Edit some sentence improvement
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On November 22 2013 23:03 eonrulz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2013 19:55 Random_0 wrote:
What sOs needs is sick nickname, something that makes people remember his achievements and crystallize his play style in their minds.
Given his propensity for mindgames, I vote for "The Magician". :D
This is... actually really good.
I had something much weaker in mind, like a spin off of Bisu's old nickname: "the Revolutionist."
But sOs "The Magician" is both original and properly complimentary.
Now, how can we get this to catch on? =)
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I respect sOs, and I actually loved the way he loved being on stage and tried to get the fans to cheer for him and chant his name. He's not only a great and innovative player, but he seems to get motivated by, rather than cave in under, the pressure of playing in front of big crowds, which is a great characteristic for a champion to have.
That being said, I have to admit the finals were a bit lackluster and disappointing. HOWEVER, everyone seems to keep blaming this on sOs playing cheesy tactics, but imo it was largely part because of Jaedong falling apart and simply losing in dumb and thus anticlimactic ways. I dont see why everyone keeps blaming sOs, it's not his fault that Jaedong played a couple of very weak games in that finals. In the very first game, sOs showed that he can still take on Jaedong in a long, drawn-out game after his cannonrush failed badly, but apart from the Whirlwind game no games ever got there because Jaedong wasnt strong enough to bring the games there; in three out of the five games, he just blundered and died.
Also, the caster bias was horrible. There were so many opportunities to actually make sOs winning much more exciting, but it was overshadowed by the obvious disappointment the casters' kept exhibiting at Jaedong losing. And this, in turn, had its effect on the crowd which refused to cheer for sOs and chant his name as they did with Jaedong, even after sOs personally asked them to cheer for him. I found it saddening that even after winning the crowd refused to indulge him and let him have his moment in the sun ;(
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I really don't have much respect for sOS, cheesing to victory is no way to win IMO.
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On November 26 2013 05:08 Kroneborge wrote:
I really don't have much respect for sOS, cheesing to victory is no way to win IMO.
Please name one serious sport or competition (at the top level of said sport/competition) where the players make sure to play only to entertain fans that are impossible to please instead of playing with winning as the primary goal.
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sOs knows what's important in Starcraft 2 on his level. It's not micro or macro, it's decision making, reading his opponent, but most of all, not letting your opponent read you.
I feel this is sOs his strongest feat.
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Well I can tell you that I am not a fan of sOs. I was at Red Bull Battlgrounds in NYC and was disgusted by the way that sOs acted on the stage. All of the players (mainly Parting and MC) were having a good time talking crap about each other but you could tell the were just joking. sOs on the other hand was just downright disrespectful. In the final series of Parting vs. sOs, Parting extended a hand before the match that sOs just walked away from. I am glad that he got his ass handed to him by Parting as he is the one who deserved it and sOs got all that disrespect shoved back in his face. I didn't know much about sOs before this event but I will definitely not be a fan of his in the future.
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On November 26 2013 05:12 Zealously wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2013 05:08 Kroneborge wrote:
I really don't have much respect for sOS, cheesing to victory is no way to win IMO. Please name one serious sport or competition (at the top level of said sport/competition) where the players make sure to play only to entertain fans that are impossible to please instead of playing with winning as the primary goal.
Why wod you take someone with 0 posts seriously?
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