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On November 23 2013 06:15 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 06:10 ffadicted wrote:On November 23 2013 04:57 wUndertUnge wrote:On November 23 2013 04:52 HsDLTitich wrote:On November 23 2013 04:48 wUndertUnge wrote:On November 23 2013 01:56 HsDLTitich wrote:
People will always complain.
Awesome changes, tho It's good to have complaints...so long as their well-founded arguments, not just pointless bitching about this and that with no critical thinking applied to what people are saying. Opinions are the lowest form of knowledge. I agree with this, but it's obvious that Blizzard can't please everyone. btw it's awesome that they actually listened to the community, I just don't understand some hate and the pessimistic posts in here You can't? It's called the idiot mob/the cowardice of the internet. And yes, you're right, you can't please everyone. Thankfully, these baseless, hateful, and empty pessimistic posts really are the minority. They just yell the loudest. There's a saying from Eastern Europe, the barrel with the fewest beans make the most noise...barrel being a person's brain. Most of the criticisms here are 100% valid and shared amongst most ppl in the scene And there are asshole negative people who hide behind those valid arguments to spew their endless hate and stupid rage. Not all complainers are rational, even if they claim to be.
and there are fan boy apologists who make dozens of excuses for Blizzard even when its clear Blizzard is entering a field of business far outside of their experience.
Blizzard is not doing a very good job relative to any organization whose sole purpose of existence is to over see competitive league play.
Blizzard is great at making games and not so great at organizing competitive league play.
James Naismith was an innovative resourceful guy and he invented basketball.
He can't come any where close to doing David Stern's job.
Blizz is great at making PC online games and mediocre at running competitive leagues. Warcraft, Diablo and Starcraft are all great. Every competitive league Blizz has headed up has yielded ho-hum results at best.
Blizz did it best in 2000 when they just ignored it and let the scene develop on its own. They do not have the balls to do that again. As a result, some people who remember Brood War in its hey-day are pissed off.
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The only thing that I am really missing is that the KR prize money will be higher. I mean, in all honesty, winning GSL code S is much harder than winning in any of the other regions.
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One question I currently have: when can we expect it to begin (the Challenger qualifiers)? :D
I really don't like how Challenger works though. I have nothing against it being unforgiving for sake of clarity, however the way it currently is a lot will depend drawing luck with respect to who your opponent will be. D:
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On November 26 2013 01:09 lamprey1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 06:15 Plansix wrote:On November 23 2013 06:10 ffadicted wrote:On November 23 2013 04:57 wUndertUnge wrote:On November 23 2013 04:52 HsDLTitich wrote:On November 23 2013 04:48 wUndertUnge wrote:On November 23 2013 01:56 HsDLTitich wrote:
People will always complain.
Awesome changes, tho It's good to have complaints...so long as their well-founded arguments, not just pointless bitching about this and that with no critical thinking applied to what people are saying. Opinions are the lowest form of knowledge. I agree with this, but it's obvious that Blizzard can't please everyone. btw it's awesome that they actually listened to the community, I just don't understand some hate and the pessimistic posts in here You can't? It's called the idiot mob/the cowardice of the internet. And yes, you're right, you can't please everyone. Thankfully, these baseless, hateful, and empty pessimistic posts really are the minority. They just yell the loudest. There's a saying from Eastern Europe, the barrel with the fewest beans make the most noise...barrel being a person's brain. Most of the criticisms here are 100% valid and shared amongst most ppl in the scene And there are asshole negative people who hide behind those valid arguments to spew their endless hate and stupid rage. Not all complainers are rational, even if they claim to be. and there are fan boy apologists who make dozens of excuses for Blizzard even when its clear Blizzard is entering a field of business far outside of their experience. Blizzard is not doing a very good job relative to any organization whose sole purpose of existence is to over see competitive league play. Blizzard is great at making games and not so great at organizing competitive league play. James Naismith was an innovative resourceful guy and he invented basketball. He can't come any where close to doing David Stern's job. Blizz is great at making PC online games and mediocre at running competitive leagues. Warcraft, Diablo and Starcraft are all great. Every competitive league Blizz has headed up has yielded ho-hum results at best. Blizz did it best in 2000 when they just ignored it and let the scene develop on its own. They do not have the balls to do that again. As a result, some people who remember Brood War in its hey-day are pissed off.
What? There was such a goddam outcry Blizzard should be part of this whole WCS in the same way Valve/Riot did.
And now when they cave in they don't have the balls to let the scene developer on their own? This is just silly and once again shows that people have no clue what they even want.
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On November 26 2013 01:09 lamprey1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2013 06:15 Plansix wrote:On November 23 2013 06:10 ffadicted wrote:On November 23 2013 04:57 wUndertUnge wrote:On November 23 2013 04:52 HsDLTitich wrote:On November 23 2013 04:48 wUndertUnge wrote:On November 23 2013 01:56 HsDLTitich wrote:
People will always complain.
Awesome changes, tho It's good to have complaints...so long as their well-founded arguments, not just pointless bitching about this and that with no critical thinking applied to what people are saying. Opinions are the lowest form of knowledge. I agree with this, but it's obvious that Blizzard can't please everyone. btw it's awesome that they actually listened to the community, I just don't understand some hate and the pessimistic posts in here You can't? It's called the idiot mob/the cowardice of the internet. And yes, you're right, you can't please everyone. Thankfully, these baseless, hateful, and empty pessimistic posts really are the minority. They just yell the loudest. There's a saying from Eastern Europe, the barrel with the fewest beans make the most noise...barrel being a person's brain. Most of the criticisms here are 100% valid and shared amongst most ppl in the scene And there are asshole negative people who hide behind those valid arguments to spew their endless hate and stupid rage. Not all complainers are rational, even if they claim to be. and there are fan boy apologists who make dozens of excuses for Blizzard even when its clear Blizzard is entering a field of business far outside of their experience. Blizzard is not doing a very good job relative to any organization whose sole purpose of existence is to over see competitive league play. Blizzard is great at making games and not so great at organizing competitive league play. James Naismith was an innovative resourceful guy and he invented basketball. He can't come any where close to doing David Stern's job. Blizz is great at making PC online games and mediocre at running competitive leagues. Warcraft, Diablo and Starcraft are all great. Every competitive league Blizz has headed up has yielded ho-hum results at best. Blizz did it best in 2000 when they just ignored it and let the scene develop on its own. They do not have the balls to do that again. As a result, some people who remember Brood War in its hey-day are pissed off.
I personally think Blizzard is doing a great job at organizing WCS. I am enjoying all the events, so I have nothing to complain about. e-Sports is still relatively new (baby-steps), compared to other kinds of sports. So respect it and give it a generation of time to develop into a more mature sport.
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Why 16 old players? It has already been tested and rejected in 2011.
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meh doesn't seem much better. From what I see it will mean slightly more koreans in GSL but still quite some in other regions. Other regions providing nearly as much money will just make it too attractive to pick that up considering there the gap between foreigners and koreans is bigger than ever.
I still don't like this system, it sort of splits the korean scene which basically is the world top and segments it. And unlike before they will only meet once in a global finals, except now this global finals will probably not be 15 koreans and 1 good foreigner but have like 5 foreigners probably because their points are protected. They should stop trying to improve foreigner scene by WCS, it is pointless to do that tournaments anyway and it only destroys the korean scene for people that like to just watch the best. Before I only followed GSL and the occasional tournament seriously, now i hardly bother at all because it's all fragmented anyway.
Every tournament i'm like 'hmm this is 75% of the top players, just wish they were all there', in the old code S that basically didn't happen.
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On November 28 2013 08:19 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2013 01:09 lamprey1 wrote:On November 23 2013 06:15 Plansix wrote:On November 23 2013 06:10 ffadicted wrote:On November 23 2013 04:57 wUndertUnge wrote:On November 23 2013 04:52 HsDLTitich wrote:On November 23 2013 04:48 wUndertUnge wrote:On November 23 2013 01:56 HsDLTitich wrote:
People will always complain.
Awesome changes, tho It's good to have complaints...so long as their well-founded arguments, not just pointless bitching about this and that with no critical thinking applied to what people are saying. Opinions are the lowest form of knowledge. I agree with this, but it's obvious that Blizzard can't please everyone. btw it's awesome that they actually listened to the community, I just don't understand some hate and the pessimistic posts in here You can't? It's called the idiot mob/the cowardice of the internet. And yes, you're right, you can't please everyone. Thankfully, these baseless, hateful, and empty pessimistic posts really are the minority. They just yell the loudest. There's a saying from Eastern Europe, the barrel with the fewest beans make the most noise...barrel being a person's brain. Most of the criticisms here are 100% valid and shared amongst most ppl in the scene And there are asshole negative people who hide behind those valid arguments to spew their endless hate and stupid rage. Not all complainers are rational, even if they claim to be. and there are fan boy apologists who make dozens of excuses for Blizzard even when its clear Blizzard is entering a field of business far outside of their experience. Blizzard is not doing a very good job relative to any organization whose sole purpose of existence is to over see competitive league play. Blizzard is great at making games and not so great at organizing competitive league play. James Naismith was an innovative resourceful guy and he invented basketball. He can't come any where close to doing David Stern's job. Blizz is great at making PC online games and mediocre at running competitive leagues. Warcraft, Diablo and Starcraft are all great. Every competitive league Blizz has headed up has yielded ho-hum results at best. Blizz did it best in 2000 when they just ignored it and let the scene develop on its own. They do not have the balls to do that again. As a result, some people who remember Brood War in its hey-day are pissed off. What? There was such a goddam outcry Blizzard should be part of this whole WCS in the same way Valve/Riot did. And now when they cave in they don't have the balls to let the scene developer on their own? This is just silly and once again shows that people have no clue what they even want.
there are different people with different opinions and they can coexist. just saying. it bothers me when people say something like this like every single person always thinks the same thing at each point in time.
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May lead to another Korea all kill, but i like the changes. The region lock is still a bit confusing. Can players from a given region only switch regions after season one qualifiers, or do they have to wait for season 1 to end entirely?
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wow
60k$ for the gsl winner and... 15k$ for the 2nd!! The stakes are high for the final.
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Will there still be a free stream for GSL games now that they now have more control over Korea? I am wondering whether to purchase a 2014 season ticket or not.
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LOL $66,000 for 1st place and $15,000 for 2nd?
Why is one person getting super rich more important than everyone else being able to make a living off of SC2?
I agree with the prize raises, but not for roughly $45,000 of the $50,000 all going to first place, and raising everyone else's prize pool by roughly a combined $5,000.
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So the soft region lock on the qualifiers limits based on how many players can qualify and not how many can enter? How is that supposed to work? The total of the regions for WCS AM is 24 players, which is exactly how many qualify. So there has to be more players from each region entering the qualifiers.
So what if 24 chinese players enter the qualifier and just stomp everyone, how do you pick which 3 qualify and how do you pick the other 21 players?
Are they gonna have separate qualifier brackets for each region? I guess that's the only thing that makes any sense.
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I was under the impression that they would all be in a bracket based off category. Like all Chinese players would be in 2 brackets (3 in season 1) of all Chinese players since that's how many spots they get
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On December 11 2013 13:01 Shellshock wrote:
I was under the impression that they would all be in a bracket based off category. Like all Chinese players would be in 2 brackets (3 in season 1) of all Chinese players since that's how many spots they get
yea that's gotta be it, thanks
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On December 05 2013 15:07 Shinta) wrote:
LOL $66,000 for 1st place and $15,000 for 2nd?
Why is one person getting super rich more important than everyone else being able to make a living off of SC2?
I agree with the prize raises, but not for roughly $45,000 of the $50,000 all going to first place, and raising everyone else's prize pool by roughly a combined $5,000.
Read the OP for your answer.
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I'm looking at the picture graph for how GSL will work. I'm confused about Code A.
Did they stop doing brackets entirely and just do groups for all of Code A? How do they determine the "12 old [players] who had good results from season 3 2103"? Do we have a list of players currently in Code A?
I guess Code S is the same, and should have Dear, Trap, jjakji, Maru, Soulkey, Rain, soO, and Parting right now.
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